Ourane

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yes indeed !!! ... actually, that is what I meant to explain to you about your previous "grammar" question ... about "allos" and "allo" ... !!! ...

... Pronouns too get "cased" and the loss of the "s" in the "accusative case" is what happened in your "example" ...

As usual !!! ... I am very proud and impressed by "my" students ...

You guys make me so happy ... People "FINALLY" learning Greek is a dream of mine ... !!! ... lol ... so, thank you for making it "appear in front of me" ...

Thank you, Thank you! Yes people DO learn greek, regardless what others may believe when intoxicated with songs translations!!!!

aha! So that was the mistery with allo and allos!

... yes, another "case" closed ... !!! ... hahahaha

Not necessarily.

You mean the pronoun, dya? Then let's put it that way: Masc.: άλλος; Neut.: άλλο; Fem.: άλλη.

άλλος -η -ο: [álos] αντων. αόρ. (βλ. E3): έχει και δεύτερο τύπο στη γενική, κάποτε και στην αιτιατική πληθυντικού, ιδίως όταν βρίσκεται στο λόγο απόλυτα· γεν. εν. αλλουνού, αλληνής, αλλουνού, γεν. πληθ. αλλωνών, αιτ. αλλουνούς· με λειτουργία επιθέτου ή ουσιαστικού.

Originally Posted by panselinos

Not necessarily.

You mean the pronoun, dya? Then let's put it that way: Masc.: άλλος; Neut.: άλλο; Fem.: άλλη.

άλλος -η -ο: [álos] αντων. αόρ. (βλ. E3): έχει και δεύτερο τύπο στη γενική, κάποτε και στην αιτιατική πληθυντικού, ιδίως όταν βρίσκεται στο λόγο απόλυτα· γεν. εν. αλλουνού, αλληνής, αλλουνού, γεν. πληθ. αλλωνών, αιτ. αλλουνούς· με λειτουργία επιθέτου ή ουσιαστικού.

You're kidding me!!!! I did not understand anything from the last part of your message! Besides the forms: αλλουνού, αλληνής, αλλουνού which I assume are the plurals for masculine, fem, and neuter......

So, translate...yourself, please, for the rest!

Time to explain another thing, that I have been explained before without really understanding why it is that way.

Let's say the man's last name is "Μαζωνάκης"(lol) and he marries a woman, her last name will be "Μαζωνάκη".Is it only that way because it's a female form? Because here a last name is a last name, regardless how "male" it sounds

Panseline mou, you make people dive in "deep waters" before they learn how to swim ... !!! ...

The "pronoun" άλλ-ος, άλλ-η, άλλ-ο, has a "genitive case" άλλ-ου, άλλ-ης, άλλ-ου ... and in plural άλλ-ων, άλλ-ων, άλλ-ων !!!

The "quote" from your book, is referring to a "poetic form" of this pronoun ... ... it is NOT the general usage of this pronoun !!! ...
It's the same as for example the word "horse" in Greek "άλογο" and its "poetic counterpart" of "άτι" ... The second "form" is NOT used in everyday life as such ... unless it is use to express "sarcasm" or "amazement" ...

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... the word "surname" in Greek is "επίθετο", ... sorry, on the phone ...

ok, I'll remember

... back ... "epitheto" to also mean "epithet" = "adjective" ...

you see, basically the "history" of surnames is that, people would say for example
- I saw, Yorgo today ...
- "Yorgo" who ... ?
- Yorgo the Taylor ...

So, the "surname" IS in fact the "adjective" that "distinguishes" us from the rest of the crowd ...
Therefore, it is "subjected" to the "rules" of Grammar regarding "adjectives" (i.e. "epithets") ...

You see ?!

Yes, I see perfectly!!

Indeed. And I did not put that for dya, but mostly for me and you - the... special cases, let's say.
For dya was the line "Then let's put it that way: Masc.: άλλος; Neut.: άλλο; Fem.: άλλη." and I believe it was quite enough.

It's not a book, it's Kriaras.

Thank you both for your explanations.

root nr 9 in here right??

I'm confused as to where the seminar will be held!....

I think here...

hahahahahaha

... You are FOVERES !!!

... sorry, for being late ... I wanted to give "sarieke" a helping hand ... but I will try that later if "beholder69" is not available ...