Notis Sfakianakis- H mana h Tourka pls

Maria told a little about it,but i'd like to know what he sings

H μάνα η Τούρκα / The Turkish mother

Δύο μάvες κλαίγαvε / Two mothers were crying
τα ίδια λέγαvε / they were saying the same
τα μoιρoλόγια. / laments.
Για γιoύς πoυ θρέψαvε / For sons that they raised
κι αυτoί πιστέψαvε / and they* believed
σε κoύφια λόγια. / in hollow words.

Κι oι δυο λεβέvτες για δυο κoυβέvτες / And two brave young men for two words
είvαι στo χώμα / they are in the ground
είvαι στo χώμα. / they are in the ground.
Κι η μάvα η Τoύρκα κι η μάvα η Γκρέκα / And the Turkish mother and the Greek mother
τoυς κλαίvε ακόμα / they still cry for them
τoυς κλαίvε ακόμα. / they still cry for them.

Στα ξέvα σμίξαvε / They met each other in foreign lands
κι oι δυο τραβήξαvε / and both of them pulled
λάζo μαχαίρι. / knife.
"Άπιστε!" βρίζαvε / They were swearing “Faithless!”
κι ύστερα στήσαvε / and then they raised
ψηλά τo χέρι. / the hand high.

*The sons believed, not the mothers

its a nice and sensetive song..thnx

Yes it is

Sure is. A great one. Although Sfakianakis had been banned from Thessaloniki for a couple of years. As a result of an offensive remark he made...

what a sad and impressive song... It gave me a creeping sensation. very very nice...

Originally Posted by panselinos

Sure is. A great one. Although Sfakianakis had been banned from Thessaloniki for a couple of years. As a result of an offensive remark he made...

Yes Panselinos, he said something very bad, but we are used to it. Athenians call us Bulgarians all the time. I don't think that he has the best character, but I like him as a singer. To speak the truth my mother doesn't like him at all cause of that event.

Originally Posted by maria_gr

Yes Panselinos, he said something very bad, but we are used to it. Athenians call us Bulgarians all the time. I don't think that he has the best character, but I like him as a singer. To speak the truth my mother doesn't like him at all cause of that event.

really?!:S

Originally Posted by alp_er

really?!:S

Yes. He said "Do you want me to say it in bulgarian to understand it?" And the irony is that none Macedonian speaks bulgarian. The elders know some turkish, but no bulgarian.

Yes, alp_er, really. Many people here don't like him because of that reason.

Yeah, Maraki mou, I'm married to an Athenian after all.
(Who makes fun of me, 'cause I speak like Salonikia. lol)

Originally Posted by panselinos

Yes, alp_er, really. Many people here don't like him because of that reason.

Yeah, Maraki mou, I'm married to an Athenian after all.
(Who makes fun of me, 'cause I speak like Salonikia. lol)

Hehe I'm from Serres (my origins) and I grew up there, but I was born in Athens and I was living in Pireus about 5 years, so I speak like Athenians. But some months ago I said for the first time "se eipa oti den thelw"! lol. Me and my mum laughed a lot!

"Se eipa", "na se pw", "kane me"...

At first I used to speak that way when I wanted to make fun, but now I'm afraid it's becoming a habit. lol



Alp_er, Athenians call us "Bulgarians" (and by "us" I mean the people from Thessaloniki), because many years ago Thessaloniki was under Bulgarian domination, that's all. Balkan wars kai malakies (sorry for the language). It's supposed to be a heavy insult, nonetheless it makes me proud, because I'm Bulgarian anyway.


Athens and Thessaloniki are in constant war with each other over the question of which city is better.

Originally Posted by panselinos

"Se eipa", "na se pw", "kane me"...

At first I used to speak that way when I wanted to make fun, but now I'm afraid it's becoming a habit. lol



Alp_er, Athenians call us "Bulgarians" (and by "us" I mean the people from Thessaloniki), because many years ago Thessaloniki was under Bulgarian domination, that's all. Balkan wars kai malakies (sorry for the language). It's supposed to be a heavy insult, nonetheless it makes me proud, because I'm Bulgarian anyway.


Athens and Thessaloniki are in constant war with each other over the question of which city is better.

Hehe for you it's not, but for Greeks yes. You know how much I like Bulgaria, but I cannot bear my own compatriots to call me Bulgarian, cause I'm exactly like them. We did nothing to them and it's really annoying. And people from Serres find it very offensive cause Bulagarian in the past burned my city twice. Don't worry about "malakies", I agree that balkan wars were that!

you're all right i wouldnt like if someone calls me another region too..but anyway we're all human..yes i know all of u like Bulgaria ,dont get me wrong..but yes its annoying when the people say something very surely when its not real
i like the song anyway..

Originally Posted by maria_gr

Yes. He said "Do you want me to say it in bulgarian to understand it?" And the irony is that none Macedonian speaks bulgarian. The elders know some turkish, but no bulgarian.

but sfakianakis is kretan not athenian
isn't he?

Originally Posted by mike78

but sfakianakis is kretan not athenian
isn't he?

I think that he's from Rhodes. Anyway I don't know, but I have heard it from Athenians. Believe me I was born there, my parents lived there about 20 years and they were living it everyday.

I blame football (soccer for the Americans) for all the wrong things in this country

As for "Notis" his anxiety to be different than other artists sadly wasnt contained in his way of dressing (I have a pic of him with me when he used to sing here with Vandi yeaaaaars ago, and he is exactly dressed like a gypsy lol) but he took it further to a "think-tank" attitude. Naturally, anxiety leads to mistakes and alas, he surely made some. And the best proof that proves his idiotic anxiety is the fact that the mother of his children is.. English (a reason he shouldnt mess with nationalities, one could say).

-d

As for the Athenian part vs the Thessaloniki one, as my uncle used to say "Everytime you say me instead of mou, se instead of sou etc, go in front of a mirror and practice". I have failed totally. I grew up near Peiraias (PFaliro, Kalamaki) and I find myself using "se leo", "me eipe", malllaka, filllaraki (with 3 ls lol) so what can I say. Thessaloniki will get inside your dna after a while.. and such a beauty that it is, it is most natural to happen!

The rest adjectives deriving from bloody football like "Bulgarians", "Xanoumia", "Gavroi", "Tourkoi" etc etc its just a nonsense that happily the last few years is limited within an amount of young illiterated hardcore fans that surely dont care about sports but about who is better and who will kick more asses etc.
And the war is now mainly foccused in the development of Athens vs the forgotten co-capital that hasnt seen a serious main project in decades.. lets see how the metro will do now

You grew up in Palaio Faliro? I spent the first five years of my life in Kaminia! Well I always say that I hate Athens, but Peireas is beautiful!

Btw you forgot to say "vazeloi" and "skoulikia" lol

Είμαστε καρχαρίες, αγάπη μου. :d

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