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03-27-2008, 12:13 PM
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Miscellaneous (not lyrics) Italian <-> English translations
Please help me to understand this poem from Roberto benigni for Massimo trosi:
Non so cosa teneva "dint'a capa",
intelligente, generoso, scaltro,
per lui non vale il detto che è del Papa,
morto un Troisi non se ne fa un altro.
Morto Troisi muore la segreta
arte di quella dolce tarantella,
ciò che Moravia disse del Poeta
io lo ridico per un Pulcinella.
La gioia di bagnarsi in quel diluvio
di "jamm, o' saccio, ‘naggia, oilloc, azz!"
era come parlare col Vesuvio, era come ascoltare del buon Jazz.
"Non si capisce", urlavano sicuri,
"questo Troisi se ne resti al Sud!"
Adesso lo capiscono i canguri,
gli Indiani e i miliardari di Holliwood!
Con lui ho capito tutta la bellezza
di Napoli, la gente, il suo destino,
e non m'ha mai parlato della pizza,
e non m'ha mai suonato il mandolino.
O Massimino io ti tengo in serbo
fra ciò che il mondo dona di più caro,
ha fatto più miracoli il tuo verbo
di quello dell'amato San Gennaro
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03-27-2008, 12:22 PM
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I know that this poem is in Neapolitan language. I found some help on dialectal expressions in Benigni's poem, maybe useful for translation:
d'int a capa = dentro la testa = in his head
ciò che Moravia disse del Poeta
io lo ridico per un Pulcinella = what Moravia said about the Poet,
I say it again (lo ridico) for a Pulcinella (a character in the Commedia dell'Arte, typically a clown, a buffoon)
"jamm, o' saccio, ‘naggia, oilloc, azz!" = andiamo, lo so, mannaggia, eccolo, cazzo = let's go, I know, blast, here (he) is, f...k"
and this link is for poem video:
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=ziM5An...eature=related
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03-28-2008, 01:10 PM
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Non so cosa teneva "dint'a capa",
I don't know what was in his head
intelligente, generoso, scaltro,
intelligent, generous, sharp
per lui non vale il detto che è del Papa,
for him, the Pope's word doesn't matter
morto un Troisi non se ne fa un altro.
if a Troisi dies, there won't be another.
Morto Troisi muore la segreta
Once Troisi died, "la segreta" died
arte di quella dolce tarantella,
the art of that sweet music
ciò che Moravia disse del Poeta
what Moravia said about the Poet
io lo ridico per un Pulcinella.
I say it again for a Pucinella.
La gioia di bagnarsi in quel diluvio
The joy of bathing in that flood (deluge)
di "jamm, o' saccio, ‘naggia, oilloc, azz!"of "
"let's go, I know, damn!, here (he) is, f...k"
era come parlare col Vesuvio, era come ascoltare del buon Jazz.
was like talking with the Vesuvio vulcano, like listening to good Jazz.
"Non si capisce", urlavano sicuri,
"We can't understand", they were yelling sure of themsleves
"questo Troisi se ne resti al Sud!"
"Let this Trosi stay in the South!"
Adesso lo capiscono i canguri,
Now kangaroos understand him
gli Indiani e i miliardari di Holliwood!
the Indians, and the billionaires of Hollywood
Con lui ho capito tutta la bellezza
With him, I've come to know the whole beauty
di Napoli, la gente, il suo destino,
of Naples, the people, their destiny
e non m'ha mai parlato della pizza,
and he never talked to me about pizza
e non m'ha mai suonato il mandolino.
and never played the mandolin.
O Massimino io ti tengo in serbo
Oh, Maximus, I hold you safe
fra ciò che il mondo dona di più caro,
between the most important/beloved things that life gives to us
ha fatto più miracoli il tuo verbo
your word made more miracles
di quello dell'amato San Gennaro
than the one of our beloved Saint Gennaro
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03-28-2008, 03:38 PM
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Thank you so so much 
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08-27-2008, 07:37 AM
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i think this part should be traslated in this way (correct me if i wrong)
Morto Troisi muore la segreta
Once Troisi died, it also died the secret
arte di quella dolce tarantella,
art of that sweet tarantella
ciò che Moravia disse del Poeta
what Moravia said about the Poet
io lo ridico per un Pulcinella.
I say it again for a Pucinella.
*tarantella is an ancient Neapolitan dance
**when italian poet and intellectual pier paolo pasolini was murdered, italian novelist Alberto Moravia in a public speech said the famous (in Italy) " we have lost a poet" (complete speech here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL2b17jMGRM)
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08-28-2008, 01:05 PM
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Very good. Thank you 
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08-29-2008, 11:21 AM
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I made it sticky and changed the title to Miscellaneous (not lyrics) Italian<->English translations
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10-19-2008, 07:52 AM
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Please help! :)
Heya,
Can someone tell me how i can say
"Im saying goodmorning to you, hey hey"
in Italian?
Thanks in advance 
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10-19-2008, 12:35 PM
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Ti sto dicendo buongiorno, hei, hei
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"Non parlerò mai più, perché un artista deve comunicare solo per mezzo del suo lavoro. L'artista non esiste. Esiste la sua arte"
The last interview to the Swiss Radio by Lucio Battisti (1978)
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10-19-2008, 08:53 PM
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buongiorno ...
need the translation of those two ..coz am afraid am not so sure what they exactly mean ..thanks in advance
1- Che gran sito è!!!!
2- è anche utile perche parlo 6 lingue e vorrei parlare altre
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You Are The Masterpiece Of Your Own Life
You Are The Michelangelo Of Your Life
The David You Are Sculpting Is You
You’re Creating Your Masterpiece By Your
Thoughts. ''The secret''
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10-19-2008, 08:55 PM
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1. What a great site.
2. It's also useful because I speak 6 languages and would like to speak others.
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10-19-2008, 09:30 PM
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thanks koukla for the answers
so can u tell me how to say
1- you are right this is great site
2- enjoy ur stay and translate ur sentences when u speak italian so every one can understand what u say ..
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You Are The Masterpiece Of Your Own Life
You Are The Michelangelo Of Your Life
The David You Are Sculpting Is You
You’re Creating Your Masterpiece By Your
Thoughts. ''The secret''
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10-19-2008, 10:07 PM
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Prego
1. Hai ragione, questo é un grande sito.
2. Buona permanenza e traduci le tue frasi quando parli italiano affinché tutti possano capire che cosa tu dici.
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10-20-2008, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Koukla
Prego
1. Hai ragione, questo é un grande sito.
2. Buona permanenza e traduci le tue frasi quando parli italiano affinché tutti possano capire che cosa tu dici.
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grazie signora 
__________________
You Are The Masterpiece Of Your Own Life
You Are The Michelangelo Of Your Life
The David You Are Sculpting Is You
You’re Creating Your Masterpiece By Your
Thoughts. ''The secret''
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