Learning Lebanese dialect

[mvnr1]

@ ArabianGlow

yes, ana menni jo3ane is correct, heya mesh jo3ane is correct, ana menni lebneniye is correct, heya mesh lebneniye is correct, now u understood the rule

law and eza mean the same (both mean if), no difference at all

walaw is a very famous Lebanese expression, it literally means and if (wa means and, law means if) but it's used when someone asks u for something and u reply that u don't mind at all, it's like saying yes of course, for example:
A: Momken alamak? (Can I use your pen?)
B: Wa law. (Yes of course)

[ArabianGlow]

@ ArabianGlow

yes, ana menni jo3ane is correct, heya mesh jo3ane is correct, ana menni lebneniye is correct, heya mesh lebneniye is correct, now u understood the rule

law and eza mean the same (both mean if), no difference at all

walaw is a very famous Lebanese expression, it literally means and if (wa means and, law means if) but it's used when someone asks u for something and u reply that u don't mind at all, it's like saying yes of course, for example:
A: Momken alamak? (Can I use your pen?)
B: Wa law. (Yes of course)

Is it wrong if I say: emmi menna hon (my mother is not here)? I´m sure I´ve heard it in an arabic movie. Or is it emmi mesh hon?

[mvnr1]

@ ArabianGlow

ok after u've edited ur post, here's the answer to ur edited questions

grammatically ana mesh jo3ane and ana menni jo3ane r correct, but i don't know which one is the most common to use, someone who can speak Lebanese Arabic can tell u, in Egyptian Arabic (which I speak) it's said ana mosh ga3ana

randa434 is very good at Lebanese Arabic and she says that it's better to use maani

if u r talking about someone else (not u) yes use mesh, as u said heya mesh jo3ane, it's correct

[CZAREK2581]

thank you both for your answer, but its still not clear to me :-D what is the difference between menni and mesh? how do I use these words?

I would also like to know whats the difference between sta2tillek & wa7ashtini.

I guess everything has been explained already.

I will give some examples to shed some light on it.You can use them interchangably

مش=not.....

انا مش بولندي=ana mesh bolandey=I am not Polish.

ما+pronoun [always goes with pronoun]

ex:هدا مانه بطال=Hada maano baTTal=This is not bad
مالها جاية=Maala jaaya=She is not coming
انا ماني احمق\غبي=Ana maane a7ma2\3'abe=I am not stupid

Note:

In levantine dialect [i guess also in Lebanese for sure in Syrian ]u will find word مو=moo which means also "not"

Ex:انا مو زنجيل=Ana moo zangeel=I am not rich

Word زنجيل is pronouncated by "g" not "j"

هو مو سوري=Howa moo Soreey=He is not Syrian

2.

word "wahashtene" comes from verb وحش=wa7ash and it means "to be missed by somebody".As far as i know it is used only[mostly]
in Egyptian dialect.

word"eshta2telak=comes from verb اشتاق=eshtaaqa[MSA] or eshtaa2=[Levantine one] and it also means to miss sm

Hope we clarified everything now

[randa434]

@ ArabianGlow

but i don't know which one is the most common to use, someone who can speak Lebanese Arabic can tell u,

ana mesh jou3ane is the most common in Lebanon and ana maani jou3ane is the most common in syria

thx elak mvnr1,you know every think allah ykhalik alna

[mvnr1]

@ ArabianGlow

emmi menna hon, menna here is not mani, i don't know if such a word exists or not but in case it does it'll work the same as mani, as i told u in the previous post i think mani is short of ma ana (ma means not and ana means I), menna is probably short of ma ennaha (ma means not and ennaha means her) and since in Lebanese Arabic the ha pronoun is pronounced a (like sme3taha is said in Lebanese Arabic sme3ta) so ennaha in this case is pronounced enna, add ma (not) to the beginning and it'll be ma enna and then shortened to menna, so as u see it works the same as mani, so grammatically yes emmi menna hon sounds correct

u can simply add ma to any similar pronouns and u'll get all the variants:
ma + ana = mani
ma + enna = menna
ma + enno = menno
ma + enna = menna
......

likewise, make sure when u use one of them that the subject of the sentence is the same as the pronoun, for example, u can't say heya menno jo3ane, because heya is she and menno is he's not so it means she he is not hungry, this is incorrect, the correct one is heya menna jo3ane because the subject (heya) matches the pronoun (menna)

all of this is from the grammatical point of view, but whether all these words r used or not and which common and which r not i don't really know because i speak Egyptian Arabic

[CZAREK2581]

@ArabianGlow
walaw means your wellcome

Wow so many questions todayI like it

I am not sure which one u mean cos in Levantine dialect we have two options

First :

wa-law means even if....

&

Wallaw can be translated as Come on!!Forget it!!Oh really?or just WOW!!

[CZAREK2581]

Is it wrong if I say: emmi menna hon (my mother is not here)? I´m sure I´ve heard it in an arabic movie. Or is it emmi mesh hon?

maybe it will be easier if u provide us link and then we can hear what has being said in this movie?

I am not native speaker however emmi menna hon doesn't make sense to me

امي مش هون=My mother is not here[she is absent]- it is very correct

[CZAREK2581]

ana mesh jou3ane is the most common in Lebanon and ana maani jou3ane is the most common in syria

thx elak mvnr1,you know every think allah ykhalik alna

I agree

as i mentioned Syrian also use word مو =moo

[randa434]

Wow so many questions todayI like it

I am not sure which one u mean cos in Levantine dialect we have two options

First :

wa-law means even if....

&

Wallaw can be translated as Come on!!Forget it!!Oh really?or just WOW!!

hi czarek kifak?
i mean the second

[randa434]

I agree

as i mentioned Syrian also use word مو =moo

eywah mazbou ,syrian bi2oolou moo w maani etnein

[randa434]

I guess everything has been explained already.

I will give some examples to shed some light on it.You can use them interchangably

مش=not.....

انا مش بولندي=ana mesh bolandey=I am not Polish.

ما+pronoun [always goes with pronoun]

ex:هدا ماله بطال=Hada maalo baTTal=This is not bad
مالها جاية=Maala jaaya=She is not coming
انا مالي احمق\غبي=Ana maane a7ma2\3'abe=I am not stupid

sa3b 3alayya ta befham
ana fakkart ماله means not for him!!! ما الوا
so as you said mali= maani ?

[mvnr1]

@ randa434

i think CZAREK2581 got confused

here's the whole story about ما الو and ماله :

ما الوا (ma elo) means not for him, it's actually ما اله but the pronoun ه (pronounced o) (means him/his) is sometimes written as و or وا but pronounced the same (pronounced o)

ماله (malo) has 2 meanings:
1- it means the matter with him, for example:
Howa malo? (What's the matter with him?)
2- it means his money, for example:
Malo 2all. (He now has less money)

about ماله which CZAREK2581 talked about, i think he got confused, don't know

[CZAREK2581]

hi czarek kifak?
i mean the second

ana kteer mnee7 ,ente keefek?kol 3am wa ente tayyeba

[randa434]

2- it means his money, for example:
Malo 2all. (He now has less money)

thx mvnr1...
ekteeer tayyeb 3anna nafs ma3ni fi persian maal =money

[CZAREK2581]

thx mvnr1...
ekteeer tayyeb 3anna nafs ma3ni fi persian maal =money

Yes but this one of course is very classical one

The Levantine one we use for money is مصاري=maSaari

[randa434]

ana kteer mnee7 ,ente keefek?kol 3am wa ente tayyeba

ana mni7a 7amdellah bwojoudkon merci yen3ad 3alike belkhir we lbaraka ya czarek kil sana wente salem we ahlak salmin shaher mobarak 3aliko ya rab....

[randa434]

Yes but this one of course is very classical one

The Levantine one we use for money is مصاري=maSaari

yeaaaaaaaaa i agree .masaari is the most common
metel ma bi2ouloo: masaari ma bijeeb el sa3aade

[CZAREK2581]

ana mni7a 7amdellah bwojoudkon merci yen3ad 3alike belkhir we lbaraka ya czarek kil sana wente salem we ahlak salmin shaher mobarak 3aliko ya rab....

shokran kteer le-kel tammaneyat

[ArabianGlow]

hi czarek kifak?
i mean the second

could you please give me an example for Wallaw (come on, forget it and oh really)?