Learning Bulgarian language

[turhanbg]

hi friends..im learning bulgarian. i ve learnt lots of. but i think its not enough.anyway i think u bulgarians can tell anything about bulgarian.. this topic will be useful for me and for people who wants to learn bulgarian....

and i know its a lyric site.. but helping is a good thing

[veronika_pooh]

I'm very happy to hear that and will help U with whatever U need

[turhanbg]

ok than lets start the past tense... turn back your primary school years and tell me what u lernt at that years.....

[veronika_pooh]

Hahahah,I don't think I've ever learned that...Ok.I'll try a lil later,have to go now

[turhanbg]

yes guys i will tell u the genders in bulgarian as much as i can
there r 3 genders in bulgarian .. masculine(myjki rod),feminine(jenski rod) and middle(sreden rod)..
masculine words generally finish with an unvoiced letter..
edin myj(man)
edin vestnik(newspaper)
edin avtobus(bus)
feminine words generally finish with -a or -q(я)
edna ulica(street)
edna dyrjava(country)
edna jena(woman)
but there r some words they seem like masculine but they r feminine.i know that they had some letters at tha end of them in ancient bulgarian. but now they r not exist
ednA esen(autumn)
ednA pesen(song)
ednA nosht(night)
and the middle finish with -o or -e
edno nebe(sky)
edno momche(boy)
edno syrce(heart)

[panselinos]

Originally Posted by turhanbg

masculine words generally finish with an unvoiced letter

By "unvoiced" you probably mean "consonant".

Yes, however, there are exceptions from that rule too.

[alp_er]

i wanna learn bulgarian too! this thread will be very helpful for me thanks .. i have a question about the alphabet .can u tell me the situation with 'ъ' letter i mean about the pronouncation..thnks

[WaNt_Ya_]

well,it`s not very easy to be explained but i will try to tell it that way..E.G. let`s take the word "turn" in that case we read "U" in the same way as "ъ"...i don`t know if that is a good example..good luck

[maria_gr]

Hey guys!

I have a question. I've read somewhere that bulgarian nouns and adjectives are inflective. Is that true? And how can I decline them? And what about the genders? I'm so confused...

[veronika_pooh]

OMG...I guess it will be a long threadOk lets starnt with the alphabet...

[veronika_pooh]

А=A
Б=B
В=V
Г=G
Д=D
Е=E
Ж=J,like jigolo
З=Z
И=I
Й=shotr I,
К=K
Л=L
М=M
Н=N
О=O
П=P
Р=R
С=S
Т=T
У=U
Ф=F
Х=H,like in hole
Ц=ts
Ч=ch
Ш=sh
Щ=sht
Ъ=er goliam,it's like a but with with more close mouth,lol,like the example desenceto gave with "turn" it's pronounced the same way
Ь= ER malak,it's usially used in combination with "o" in words after constant like in "кьорав"(sorry for the word but we use these letter very seldom and only in this combination with "o")it's read "kiorav" and it's a slang for blind man
Ю=iu,it's soft,pronounsed like -"eau" in "beautiful"
Я=ia,soft again,

[veronika_pooh]

Originally Posted by maria_gr

Hey guys!

I have a question. I've read somewhere that bulgarian nouns and adjectives are inflective. Is that true? And how can I decline them? And what about the genders? I'm so confused...

Yes U r right,bulgarian is not like english,the adjectives r inflective and it depends on the noun.turhanbg explain it pretty good with the genders.
When U inflect usually the adjectives as they r for a masculine(myjki rod)-barz-fast;umen-clever;sramezhliv-shy
For feminine(jenski rod) we usually put "a" in the end-barza;umna;sramezhliva
And for the middle(sreden rod) we put "o"-barzo,umno,sramezhlivo

[veronika_pooh]

The past simple tense is nothing special.We use the past tense of the verbs,which is formed sometimes with a change of the last vowel in the verb with "E" and U put "X"(h) in the end.I don't know if there is any rule about this change U just have to learn them
EX.Obicham te-I love U;Obichah te-I loved U
Molia te ne go pravi-I beg U,don't do it;Molih te da ne go pravish-I beged U,not to do it.
Chudia se kak e toi-I wonder how is he;Chudeh se kak e toi-I was wondering how is he.
Mislia che toi shte doide-I think he'll come;Misleh che toi shte doide-I thought he'll come.

I'm sorry for the bad explaining,I'm really trying to be clear but U know I'm not a teacher

[turhanbg]

Originally Posted by alp_er

i wanna learn bulgarian too! this thread will be very helpful for me thanks .. i have a question about the alphabet .can u tell me the situation with 'ъ' letter i mean about the pronouncation..thnks

hey alp all bulgarian letters r in turkish alphabet so "ъ" is "ı" but bulgarian says it like "a" ."ъ" is in the middle of "a" and "ı". but u can say it like "ı" there isnt so muche diffirence

[turhanbg]

and ermalak "ь" changes "o" to "ö" in turkish. like боксьор its the same in turkish boksör (boxer)...
if "ю" is the first letter we say it as "yu" i.e ютия=yutiya and it comes from "ütü"(iron) in turkish but if its not at the first we say it like "ü" in turkish.i.e тютюн=tütün (tobacco)

[turhanbg]

Originally Posted by panselinos

By "unvoiced" you probably mean "consonant".

Yes, however, there are exceptions from that rule too.

yes i meant that unvoiced smells turkish sorry...

[ExIT_]

Приятно ми е да се запознаем / Priqtno mi e da se zapoznaem = Pleased to meet you

Как сте? / Kak ste? = How are you?

Тук съм ... / Tuk sam ... = I am here ..

... по работа / po rabota = on bisiness
... на почивка / na pochivka = on holiday
... за да уча / za da ucha = to study

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Как се казвате? / Kak se kazvate = What's your name?
Казвам се ... / Kazvam se ... = My name is ...
Нека ви се представя / Neka vi se predstavq = Let me introduce myself

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Вие / Vie = Are you
англичанин ли сте? / anglichanin li ste? = Ebglish?
Аз съм българин / Az sam bulgarin = I am Bulgarian
Къде живеете? / Kade zhiveete? = Where do you live?
Живея в България / Zhiveq v Bulgariq = I live in Bulgaria
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Добре дошли / Dobre doshli = Welcome
Всичко най- хубаво / Vsichko nai- hubavo = All the best
Приятен ден / Priqten den = Have a nice day
Приятно ... / Priqtno ... = Have a nice ...
прекарване / prekarvane = time
пътуване / patuvane = journey (=trip)
Честит рожден ден / Chestit rozden den = Happy birthday
Нова година / Nova godina = New year
Весела коледа / Vesela koleda = Marry Christmas
Наздраве / Nazdrave = Cheers
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[ExIT_]

По- късно ще добавя и превода на английски

Здравей (те) / Zdravei ( te )
Добро утро / Dobro utro
Добър ден / Dobar den
Добър вечер / Dobar vecher
Лека нощ / Leka nosht
Довиждане / Dovizhdane
До скоро виждане / Do skoro vizdane
Ще се видим след малко / Shte se vidim sled malko
Да / Da
Не / Ne
Моля / Molq
Чудесно! / Chudesno
Благодаря / Blagodarq
Много ви благодаря / Mnogo vi blagodarq
Няма защо / Nqma zashto
Точно така / Tochno taka
Не, благодаря / Ne, blagodarq
Не съм съгласен / Ne sam saglasen
Това е невъзможно / Tova e nevazmozno
Извинете / Izvinete
Няма нищо / Nqma nishto
Бих искал... / Bih iskal
Добре ( Съгласен съм ) / Dobre (saglasen sam)
Това е добре / Tova e dobre
Знам / Znam

Едно 1 / Edno
Две 2 / Dve
Три 3 / Tri
Четри 4 / Chetri
Пет 5 / Pet
Шест 6 / Shest
Седем 7 / Sedem
Осем 8 / Osem
Девет 9 / Devet
Десет 10 / Deset
Нула 0 / Nula

[alp_er]

Originally Posted by turhanbg

hey alp all bulgarian letters r in turkish alphabet so "ъ" is "ı" but bulgarian says it like "a" ."ъ" is in the middle of "a" and "ı". but u can say it like "ı" there isnt so muche diffirence

aha i got it... like vrna? they say it like vırna in Tr


btw thanks for all !! all of you are great !

[alp_er]

what does 'dokosvai me' mean?
and can u pls give me some verbs?
for example: to go,to come,to see to have,to be etc..

thanks in advance

[panselinos]

It means "touch me" - imperfect imperative.
The imperfect imperative has durative force, so it actually has the meaning of something like "keep touching me".
If it was perfect imperative, it wouldn't be "dokosvai me", but "dokosni me".

A bit confusing, ain't it?

[veronika_pooh]

dokosvai me-touch me
go-otivam EX.where do u go?-Kude otivash?
come-idvam
see-vizhdam
have-imam
be-sam
hear-chuvam
think-mislia
read-cheta
watch-gledam
like-haresvam
bring-nosia
keep-prodalzhavam
sleep-spia
wake up-sabizhdam se
dream-sanuvam(while sleeping),mechtaia(dreaming bout something u want)
hide-kriia se
drink-pia
eat-iam
want-iskam
need-nuzhdaia se
swim-pluvam

well enought for now,learn this and I'll give u more

[alp_er]

THANKS!! Friends! i'll learn them... and yeah its confusing..but i have enough curiosity to overcome ..i think..

[veronika_pooh]

Hihi,U'll need it all to learn bulgarian,they r a lot confusing things in it

[alp_er]

hehe,do u really think i cant learn??

[veronika_pooh]

Noooo,I'm pretty sure U can,if U want it

[alp_er]

THNX. i da..iskam!

[maria_gr]

Ηi! My mum just said me that tomorrow morning they have to go to the borders to take a Bulgarian (she'll help my aunt in the fields) and she said me that I can go with them if I want. Of course I said yes. What I should say to make her feel more comfortable? I have something in my mind but I'm afraid that it's wrong. So typical, I cannot say something which is correct!

[maria_gr]

Finally I didn't have problem. She is Turk who lives in Bulgaria so I said something in Turkish and a few words in Bulgarian!

[veronika_pooh]

Heheheh,I'm sure U did it perfectly rightU r the most curious girl I knowIn all the good way
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