Miscellaneous (not lyrics) Greek <-> English Translations

[Fidelitas]

Originally Posted by dya

I think I can help you with this one

ζωή is the noun (life), ζω is the verb. So:

Η καρδιά μου ζει στην Ελλάδα.

Thank you for the help!

καλή σας μέρα

[boubou]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

Ok thanks!
Is this correct?
The thoughts of my heart are in Greece(, with you) Οι σκέψεις της καρδιάς μου είναι στην Ελλάδα(, μαζί σας)
My heart lives in Greece Η καρδιά μου ζωή στην Ελλάδα

--

καλή σας μέρα
Σας ευχαριστώ πολύ για τη βοήθεια

You can say:
The thoughts of my heart are in Greece, with you
Οι σκέψεις της καρδιάς μου είναι στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου (σας you will use if you want to be formal and typical, or else just σου)
Ι skepsis tis karthias mu ine stin elatha, mazi su (both th - pronounced like in word the)

My heart lives in Greece
Η καρδιά μου ζει στην Ελλάδα
I karthia mu zi stin elatha

[dya]

About this:

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα σου

You said it should mean: My heart beats in Greece within me.

So, shouldn't it be :

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα μου ?

[boubou]

Originally Posted by dya

About this:

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα σου

You said it should mean: My heart beats in Greece within me.

So, shouldn't it be :

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα μου ?

dya is right!

[dya]

Boubou, thank you for the clarification

[Fidelitas]

Boubou and dya ευχαριστώ

So its:

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα μου

Οι σκέψεις της καρδιάς μου είναι στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου



Omg, I think I will never learn greek!

[arif_mersin]

Efharisto poli

[maria_gr]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

Boubou and dya ευχαριστώ

So its:

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα μου

Οι σκέψεις της καρδιάς μου είναι στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου



Omg, I think I will never learn greek!

The first sentence is correct. The second one is also correct, but I dont know why... I don't like it, it's something that I would never say.

You can also say Η σκέψη μου είναι εκεί στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου [=My thought is there in Greece, with you]

Edit: I read again the first one and I don't like the mesa mou part. I think that Η καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα sounds better.

[boubou]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

Boubou and dya ευχαριστώ

So its:

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα μου

Οι σκέψεις της καρδιάς μου είναι στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου



Omg, I think I will never learn greek!

Η καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα, μέσα σου.
The comma, is necessary, so as to retain the meaning of the phrase.

μέσα μου = within me
but I think you'd like to say that your heart is beating within somebody else's body, so
μέσα σου = within you

Hey, Fidelitas, if you try without giving up, you will definately learn. Remember that the most important of all, is to speak greek, with other greeks (preferably) and ask as many things as you can. No matter if you make mistakes, this is the only way to learn faster. Of course grammar is necessary, so as to learn speaking the language correctly, but this cannot happen at all (speak greek) if you don't try to say something to others!

[Fidelitas]

Maria and boubou THANKS!

I have still a long way to go ... But I'm learning

[Fidelitas]

So it's


Η σκέψη μου είναι εκεί στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου My thoughts are in Greece, with you

Οι σκέψεις της καρδιάς μου είναι στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου
The thoughts of my heart are in greece, with you

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα μου
My heart beats in Greece, within me

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα σου My heart beats in Greece, within you

Η καρδιά μου ζει στην Ελλάδα
My heart lives in Greece

Please tell me this is correct ... I'm getting confused

[Fidelitas]

Hi,

I'm learning Greek. So I tried to write Greek in Latin characters.
Can anyone tell me if this is correct? And can someone give me the english translation of the second text?

1)
Σ' ευχαριστώ, που ήρθες πάλι
S’ efaristo, mou irthes pali

Αγάπη μου μεγάλη
agapi mou megali

Σ' ευχαριστώ, από τα βάθη της καρδιάς
s’efaristo, apo ta vathi tis kardias

Σ' ευχαριστώ, μ' ένα μου δάκρυ
s’efaristo, m’ ena mou dakri

Που 'ναι γεμάτο από αγάπη
Pou ‘nai gemato apo agapi

Σ' ευχαριστώ, που ξέρεις και
s’efaristo, pou xeris kai

Να συγχωράς
na sighoras





2)
Μου λείπεις, είσαι εδώ μα πάντα λείπεις
Mou leipeis, eisai etho ma panta leipeis

Είσαι έρωτας αλήτης που όλο πίκρες με κερνάς
Eisai erotas alitis pu olo pikres me kernas

Μου λείπεις μια ζωή μ' εγκλαταλείπεις
Mou leipeis mia zoi m’ egklataleipes (?)

κι αν μου λες πως μου ανήκεις
ki an mou les pos mou anikeis

τότε μη με τυραννάς
tote mi me tirannas

[boubou]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

So it's


Η σκέψη μου είναι εκεί στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου My thoughts are in Greece, with you

Οι σκέψεις της καρδιάς μου είναι στην Ελλάδα, μαζί σου
The thoughts of my heart are in greece, with you

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα μου
My heart beats in Greece, within me

H καρδιά μου χτυπά στην Ελλάδα μέσα σου My heart beats in Greece, within you

Η καρδιά μου ζει στην Ελλάδα
My heart lives in Greece

Please tell me this is correct ... I'm getting confused

Absolutely correct!

[boubou]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

Hi,

I'm learning Greek. So I tried to write Greek in Latin characters.
Can anyone tell me if this is correct? And can someone give me the english translation of the second text?

1)
Σ' ευχαριστώ, που ήρθες πάλι
S’ efaristo, pou irthes pali

Αγάπη μου μεγάλη
agapi mou megali

Σ' ευχαριστώ, από τα βάθη της καρδιάς
s’efaristo, apo ta vathi tis kardias

Σ' ευχαριστώ, μ' ένα μου δάκρυ
s’efharisto, m’ ena mou dakri

Που 'ναι γεμάτο από αγάπη
Pou ‘nai gemato apo agapi

Σ' ευχαριστώ, που ξέρεις και
s’efharisto, pou xeris kai

Να συγχωράς
na sighoras





2)
Μου λείπεις, είσαι εδώ μα πάντα λείπεις
Mou leipeis, eisai etho ma panta leipeis
I miss you, you're here but always away

Είσαι έρωτας αλήτης που όλο πίκρες με κερνάς
Eisai erotas alitis pu olo pikres me kernas
You are (like a) love-tramp, constantly treating me sorrows

Μου λείπεις μια ζωή μ' εγκλαταλείπεις (wrong - this letter shouldn't be there)
Mou leipeis mia zoi m’ egkataleipeis (?)
I miss you, you keep abandoning me, through my entire life

κι αν μου λες πως μου ανήκεις
ki an mou les pos mou anikeis
and if you tell me that you are mine

τότε μη με τυραννάς
tote mi me tirannas
then stop torturing me

[Fidelitas]

Originally Posted by boubou

Absolutely correct!

Finally

[Fidelitas]

Originally Posted by boubou

1)
Σ' ευχαριστώ, που ήρθες πάλι
S’ efaristo, pou irthes pali

Αγάπη μου μεγάλη
agapi mou megali

Σ' ευχαριστώ, από τα βάθη της καρδιάς
s’efaristo, apo ta vathi tis kardias

Σ' ευχαριστώ, μ' ένα μου δάκρυ
s’efharisto, m’ ena mou dakri

Που 'ναι γεμάτο από αγάπη
Pou ‘nai gemato apo agapi

Σ' ευχαριστώ, που ξέρεις και
s’efharisto, pou xeris kai

Να συγχωράς
na sighoras





2)
Μου λείπεις, είσαι εδώ μα πάντα λείπεις
Mou leipeis, eisai etho ma panta leipeis
I miss you, you're here but always away

Είσαι έρωτας αλήτης που όλο πίκρες με κερνάς
Eisai erotas alitis pu olo pikres me kernas
You are (like a) love-tramp, constantly treating me sorrows

Μου λείπεις μια ζωή μ' εγκλαταλείπεις (wrong - this letter shouldn't be there)
Mou leipeis mia zoi m’ egkataleipeis (?)
I miss you, you keep abandoning me, through my entire life

κι αν μου λες πως μου ανήκεις
ki an mou les pos mou anikeis
and if you tell me that you are mine

τότε μη με τυραννάς
tote mi me tirannas
then stop torturing me

I did it very well (at least I think ) Maybe its not as hopeless as I thougt lol
Thanks for the translation!!

[maria_gr]

Originally Posted by boubou

Σ' ευχαριστώ, από τα βάθη της καρδιάς
s’efaristo, apo ta vathi tis kardias

S' efharisto

Originally Posted by boubou

Μου λείπεις μια ζωή μ' εγκλαταλείπεις (wrong - this letter shouldn't be there)

Hehe sometimes I make this mistake too... instead of the accent I press the -λ.

[boubou]

@Fidelitas

Δ, δ --- Θ, θ

You can distinguish between these two letters, while writing in latin script thus:
Δ, δ -- will be written as th
Θ, θ -- will be written as 8 (because 8 looks like θ)

I believe that you already know the difference in pronounciation.

About latin script of greek words,

one can write it as he/she wishes. Others want to ascribe the correct pronounciation, which inevitably causes some difficulties while reading. For example, if we want to write the word υπάρχεις in latin, having in mind the pronounciation, we would write iparhis. But it's more difficult for greeks to understand immediately what this word says, because the eye is used to read
yparxeis which optically looks more like
υπάρχεις

However, regarding the latin script, as with other languages, the alphabet of which is not latin-based (i.e. cyrillic), there are no fixed-standard rules.

I hope this is clear enough

[boubou]

Originally Posted by maria_gr

S' efharisto



Hehe sometimes I make this mistake too... instead of the accent I press the -λ.

hehehehe more times I make the same mistake as well! Don't worry
Well, there is an interesting survey(?) that says, that the human mind, can read normally a sentence, even if the words contain the correct letters in absurd order, as long as the first and last letter is correct. I was astonished to find out that I could actually read such a sentence.
So I guess this is not such a serious mistake!

[boubou]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

I did it very well (at least I think ) Maybe its not as hopeless as I thougt lol
Thanks for the translation!!

If you say it's the first time you do that, then well done!!!

[Fidelitas]

[quote=boubou;487176]@Fidelitas


About latin script of greek words,

one can write it as he/she wishes. Others want to ascribe the correct pronounciation, which inevitably causes some difficulties while reading. For example, if we want to write the word υπάρχεις in latin, having in mind the pronounciation, we would write iparhis. But it's more difficult for greeks to understand immediately what this word says, because the eye is used to read
yparxeis which optically looks more like


Boubou,
Thanks! I do see the difference. And its true yparxeis looks more like υπάρχεις . I think I would choose also to write it that way. But than I would pronounce it wrong I guess.
But I made some progress today!
Thanks Boubou and maria!!

[Fidelitas]

Originally Posted by boubou

If you say it's the first time you do that, then well done!!!

Yeah the first time I tried it

[Fidelitas]

If you wanna say 'whatever' in Greek:
is it ο, τιδήποτε or o, τι? Or are both correct?

[boubou]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

If you wanna say 'whatever' in Greek:
is it ο, τιδήποτε or o, τι? Or are both correct?

Correct:
οτιδήποτε AND ό,τι

because whatever = οτιδήποτε = ό,τι

[Fidelitas]

Originally Posted by boubou

Correct:
οτιδήποτε AND ό,τι

because whatever = οτιδήποτε = ό,τι

ahh I see
thx!

[boubou]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

ahh I see
thx!

Please, mind that there is no such thing as ο,τιδήποτε in greek.
Also, mind that
(οτιδήποτε) ό,τι = whatever
i.e.
λέει ό,τι θέλει // he says whatever he likes

ότι = that
λέει ότι θα πάει // he says that he will go

The difference between the two words is important, because it can specify the meaning of a phrase. Most greek, don't know the difference and make mistakes.

[Fidelitas]

Originally Posted by boubou

Please, mind that there is no such thing as ο,τιδήποτε in greek.
Also, mind that
(οτιδήποτε) ό,τι = whatever
i.e.
λέει ό,τι θέλει // he says whatever he likes

ότι = that
λέει ότι θα πάει // he says that he will go

The difference between the two words is important, because it can specify the meaning of a phrase. Most greek, don't know the difference and make mistakes.

s'efharistó!!!

Yeah the difference between ό,τι and ότι I knew. I read it on the post 'learning Greek language'. Very interesting by the way! I learned a few things today :d

Do you live in Greece? Where?

[boubou]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

s'efharistó!!!

Yeah the difference between ό,τι and ότι I knew. I read it on the post 'learning Greek language'. Very interesting by the way! I learned a few things today :d

Do you live in Greece? Where?

I like it when I learn new things
I live in Athens, Greece.
Where do you live?

[Fidelitas]

Originally Posted by boubou

I like it when I learn new things
I live in Athens, Greece.
Where do you live?

Yeah me too Knowledge is power I always say

I'm jealous! I live in Belgium, omg
Went to Crete a few months ago Wanna go back!! I learned to know someone from Athens

[Fidelitas]

Originally Posted by Fidelitas

Yeah me too Knowledge is power I always say

I'm jealous! I live in Belgium, omg
Went to Crete a few months ago Wanna go back!! I learned to know someone from Athens

I'm planning on going back next year in may. probably alone, most friends have a serieus relationship etc... I'm alone so... I'm not gonna wait, life is to short anyway. So if I have to go on my own I ll do that. I speak alot of languages so that wont be a problem I guess
And I really wanna go to Athens someday. I think its an interesting city!