Learning Romanian language

[smfc_stevo_smfc]

Geographically speaking, the western part of Moldavia (the terrirtory that is limited by the Carpathian Mountains to the West, the Cheremosh River to the North, the Dniester River to the East and the Danube and Black Sea to the South) is now part of Romania and the eastern part belongs to the Republic of Moldova, while the northern and south-eastern parts are territories of Ukraine.


When we say Moldova, we usually reffer to the territory in Romania, and when we reffer to the state, we call it The Republic of Moldova.

About the Moldavian and Moldovan thing, I guess we just use them interchangeably...

Hope I've clarified at least a little bit the matter.

I found on Wikipedia that Moldavia (the region) is "Moldova" in Romanian. Perhaps it's a language place name mix up thing?

[dragonfly93]

I found on Wikipedia that Moldavia (the region) is "Moldova" in Romanian. Perhaps it's a language place name mix up thing?

For that matter, one could argue that the Republic of Moldova is known as "Moldavia" in Russian! It's different in every language, so I guess it's not totally critical. Îmi pare rău for the confusion that I seem to have caused about it, tot nu înțeleg!

[delduvath]

Hello everyone,
One more romanian on the forum and willing to help out :P
@dragonfly93 In the sentence you've used "încă nu mai înțeleg" should be "tot nu înțeleg" (meaning "i still don't understand")

"încă nu înțeleg" should be used in the following case:
When explaining something to another person and you ask him/her:
înțelegi? (Do you understand?)
încă nu înțeleg (I don't understand yet)

nu mai înțeleg (nimic) - I can't understand anything (anymore)

Regarding "încă nu mai înțeleg", well thats just incorrect :P (as far as i know)

cheers, del

EDIT:I realize that's easier for one to learn the Romanian language by speaking to someone else, so if anyone wants to, feel free to contact me via ym

[mike123]

thanks for the explanation del. but why is "încă nu mai înţeleg" incorrect?

Is it a rule not to use încă and mai together?

[dragonfly93]

As far as I know they can be used consecutively, as in " încă mai sper".

Mulțumesc, Del

[delduvath]

1). "încă nu înțeleg" - the action of understanding (a înțelege) didn't happen yet, but is likely to happen in the near future.
2). "nu mai înţeleg" - the action of understanding has happened in the past, but due to new informations added the subject doesn't understand anymore. (the action of understanding has stopped)
3). "încă mai înțeleg" - the action of understanding has happened in the past, continues to happen in the present, but the future is uncertain.
1). "tot nu înțeleg" - the action of not understanding has happened in the past and continues to happen in the present, again the future is uncertain

Both "mai" and "încă" are used to denote a repetitive action that has happened in the past and continues to happen in the future; therefor "inca nu mai inteleg" is incorrect because it contains both an affirmative and a negative repetitive adv. in regards to the action of understanding ("încă" and "nu mai").

Mai

- adverb of comparison
Mai bun = Better
Mai frecvent = More frequently
Te iubesc mai mult ca niciodată. = I love you more than ever.
- used to form the superlative form of adverbs
Tu ești cel mai bun/Tu ești cea mai bună (m/f) = You are the best.

Um, plenty more to write on these words, i'll be back when i get home, right now i need to leave my office.
Pa pa (Bye bye)

[mike123]

del, multumesc frumos pentru explicare dat. mai inteleg dar trebuie sa-l studiez.

[dragonfly93]

Mulțumesc foarte mult, Del

[smfc_stevo_smfc]

What's the difference between "iubire" and "dragoste" ?

[mike123]

i don't believe there is a difference. Just another way to say the same thing.

"iubirea mea" and "dragostea mea" mean the same thing.... My love.

[smfc_stevo_smfc]

Hmmm... Interesting... Mulțumesc, Mike.

[mike123]

pentru nimic

[dragonfly93]

There is only a slight difference: iubire comes from Russian, and it means love. Dragoste... I'm not sure of its origins, but it doesn't have an exact translation. It can be considered "dear" or "someone/thing cared for" or "the act of caring or loving, in a way close to coveting".

[mike123]

I believe in Rom, Dragă/Drag is the word for "dear" according to your definition. Maybe dragoste also means this.

Draga mea - my dear (fem)
dragul meu - my dear (masc)

[dragonfly93]

Yes, that's pretty close to what I'm trying to say. But there's no exact definition...

[kutekito]

Isn't dragoste (or maybe dragostea) a noun whereas iubire is a verb? I think I asked a Romanian friend of mine before and the told me that but I'm not sure....

[mike123]

Isn't dragoste (or maybe dragostea) a noun whereas iubire is a verb? I think I asked a Romanian friend of mine before and the told me that but I'm not sure....

"a iubi" is the verb form for "to love".

Eu iubesc, Tu iubeşti, el-ea iubeşte, noi iubim, voi iubiţi, ei-ele iubesc
(I, you, he-she, we, you, they love)

There is also "a dragosti", but it isn't clear to me its usage.

"a se iubi" and "a se îndragosti" verbs used when saying fell in love with someone.


Please, if a native can assist this discussion as i'm never sure of anything.

[dragonfly93]

Mike, from what I've found, you're correct.

[dragonfly93]

By the way... Does the verb "învăța" mean "to teach", "to learn", or both?

[mike123]

da, "a învăta" means both "to teach" and "to learn".

you can't learn to someone, so it makes sense if you think of it in these terms.

înveţi română - you learn romanian
mă înveţi română - you teach me romanian

Romanian also has "a preda" for "to teach".

Profesorul predă română - the teacher teaches romanian.

* "a preda" is a new verb for me. So I'm not sure if you can say "te predau română" - (I teach you romanian). I'll ask someone tomorrow unless someone here answers before I can post.