Learning Spanish language

[jandros]

Originally Posted by damarys

...accents.... I don't know how to do it on my laptop.
I know this is probably a dumb question, but do you all just use a Spanish font or are there some shortcuts for those of use who use North American laptops and programs?...

Laptop: Have you tried 'NumLock' and also the blue 'func' (function) key? I don't have a laptop in front of me, don't remember the key name exactly. But it's usually near the lower left, left of the space bar. It allows use of any key or function that's blue on the kbd ..... But that can be really inconvenient, very clumsy to use.

Sometimes I use 'Alt' keys, sometimes I use (copy) 'symbol' inserts from MS Word, sometimes I use a Spanish translation site, if I'm in a hurry. And .....

Do you know about Windows 'languages' and 'keyboards'? If you use Windows .....or for anyone else who might need it:

Start > Control Panel > Regional and Languages
the 'start' path may differ by Windows version or settings, I use 'Classic')

Languages tab > Details button

'Install services' ... click the 'Add' button on right

Select 1 of 20(!) versions of Spanish

'Keyboard' selection will default to 'Latin American'? It might be gray-out, not available for change.

....again, those procedures may vary....

Now: maybe you'll see the 'Language' toolbar on the bottom taskbar. If not, right-click on the taskbar ... you should find it.

Anyone: If I confused or omitted anything, please correct it

[rydizzle]

Originally Posted by damarys

I really want to improve my use of accents. I usually just leave them out... not good.
On my regular PC, I'm able to use Alt plus the numbers key board to get the accents, upside down question marks and exclamation points, etc. However, I don't know how to do it on my laptop.
I know this is probably a dumb question, but do you all just use a Spanish font or are there some shortcuts for those of use who use North American laptops and programs?
Apreciaria ayuda con esto. Muchisimas gracias!

I find that going to Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map is an easy way of using the different accents and what not. Just click the one you want and copy it. Use CTRL + V to paste into your text. It's a bit easier than remembering all the different codes if you don't use them that often. If not, going with the function key would work better.

[damarys]

Thank you jandros and rydizzle! Now I have no excuse for not using correct ortografia (well except for that accent over the "i" in ortografia!).
Thanks again!

[Música101]

What else do you need help in?

[countthestars_x]

What is the verb for "to hit?"

Also, when you have a verb in Conditional Tense(ía, ías, ía, etc.), where would you place the pronoun?

[DeBaires]

Originally Posted by countthestars_x

What is the verb for "to hit?"

Also, when you have a verb in Conditional Tense(ía, ías, ía, etc.), where would you place the pronoun?

For "to hit" you could use "golpear" or "pegar."

& for the conditional tense, the pronoun goes in front of the verb.

[countthestars_x]

Gracias a DeBaires. (:

Another question....

In Future Tense, do all verbs that end in '-ber' become have stem change into a '-br-?'

And the same thing for:

'-lir' verbs change to '-ldr-'
And,
'-ner' or '-nir' verbs change to '-ndr-'?

I hope I make sense. x__x;;

[xiurell]

Originally Posted by countthestars_x

Gracias a DeBaires. (:

Another question....

In Future Tense, do all verbs that end in '-ber' become have stem change into a '-br-?'

And the same thing for:

'-lir' verbs change to '-ldr-'
And,
'-ner' or '-nir' verbs change to '-ndr-'?

I hope I make sense. x__x;;

Future Tense Formation of Regular Verbs

The future for regular verbs is formed with the infinitive + the ending.

Here is a conjugation example of a regular verb with an "ar" ending.

CANTAR (TO SING)

Yo cantaré
Tú cantarás
Ël cantará
Nosotros cantaremos
Vososotros cantaréis
Ellos cantarán

Verbs with an "er" ending

comeré
comerás
comerá
comeremos
comeréis
comerán

Verbs with an "ir" ending

escribiré
escribirás
escribirá
escribiremos
escribiréis
escribirán

As you can see, differently from other tenses, the endings for future are the same, regardless of the infinitive ending in –ar, -er or -ir.

But you are talking about irregular verbs

ej. querer becomes querré
ej. salir.......saldré
ej. poner....pondré
ej. venir.....vendré

but abolir becomes aboliré (regular verb) and 'cenir' becomes 'cerniré'(regular too)

I think there's no rule for irregular verbs just some coincidences


Saludos

[dmoney101]

Originally Posted by xiurell

Future Tense Formation of Regular Verbs

The future for regular verbs is formed with the infinitive + the ending.

Here is a conjugation example of a regular verb with an "ar" ending.

CANTAR (TO SING)

Yo cantaré
Tú cantarás
Ël cantará
Nosotros cantaremos
Vososotros cantaréis
Ellos cantarán

Verbs with an "er" ending

comeré
comerás
comerá
comeremos
comeréis
comerán

Verbs with an "ir" ending

escribiré
escribirás
escribirá
escribiremos
escribiréis
escribirán

As you can see, differently from other tenses, the endings for future are the same, regardless of the infinitive ending in –ar, -er or -ir.

But you are talking about irregular verbs

ej. querer becomes querré
ej. salir.......saldré
ej. poner....pondré
ej. venir.....vendré

but abolir becomes aboliré (regular verb) and 'cenir' becomes 'cerniré'(regular too)

I think there's no rule for irregular verbs just some coincidences


Saludos

if it wasn't for all the tenses and conjugations (especially with irregular verbs), spanish would be one of the easiest languages to learn

[Katrocks]

Originally Posted by rydizzle

yeah, i got the basics, but if you want to sponsor a trip to spain to learn in a spanish environment, i will be more than willing to leave and go.

This is so funny! how did I miss this one? Ha Ha!!! Argentina anyone?

[DeBaires]

Originally Posted by Katrocks

This is so funny! how did I miss this one? Ha Ha!!! Argentina anyone?

YES! I'm from there - let's go! Ha ha

[viciousz_love]

my biggest problem is lo que, el que, la que, los que, las que, de quien, a quien, con quien, because in english i don't exactly speak in proper grammer (ha but who does anyway these days xD) so when i read books in spanish, it becomes a pain to look up these words and then reinterpret the sentence.

[xiurell]

Originally Posted by viciousz_love

my biggest problem is lo que, el que, la que, los que, las que, de quien, a quien, con quien, because in english i don't exactly speak in proper grammer (ha but who does anyway these days xD) so when i read books in spanish, it becomes a pain to look up these words and then reinterpret the sentence.

Relative Pronouns: el que, la que, los que, las que, and lo que

Remember that pronouns are words that refer to a noun. Relative pronouns are called "relative" because they are "related" to a noun that has previously been stated.

Note that there are four forms to accomodate singular and plural, masculine and feminine: el que, la que, los que, las que.

e.g. Mi hermano, el que tú conoces, viene a visitarme hoy
My brother, the one you know, is coming to visit me today
e.g. Mi hermana, la que conoces, viene a visitarme hoy
My sister, the one you know, is coming to visit me today
e.g Mis hermanos, los que conoces vienen a visitarme hoy
My brothers, the ones you know, are coming to visit me today
e.g. Mis hermanas, las que tu conoces. vienen a visitarme hoy
My sisters, the ones you know, are coming to visit me today

When the relative pronoun refers to an abstract idea, use "lo que."

e.g. No comprendo lo que ocurre.
I do not understand that which is happening.

Quien (plural quienes) agrees in number with its antecedent, and refers only to persons

e.g. el hombre a quien ví (the man whom I saw).
you can say "el hombre al que vi (it has the same meaning)
e.g Las niñas de quienes hablo (the girls of whom I speak)
you can say too "las niñas de las que hablo
e. la mujer con quien trabajo (the woman with whom I work)
or la mujer con la que trabajo

the prepositions a, de, con are used depending the verbs we are using

ver a to see (a person)
hablar de to speak of
trabajar con to work with

Saludos

[cuttiepie12]

i am all american...well im african american...but i love reggaeton music. i hate it when all my friends say your black not spanish. i just tell them idc cuz reggaeton is the best...some of he songs i have no absolute clue wat they talking about...so i hope that everybody that knows spanish up in hurr can help me out.lol. ive also been trying to learn spanish and i wanted to know is it easier to learn the proper or slang way???? well whoever can get back to me on that id appriciate it

[cuttiepie12]

Originally Posted by Música101

No one wants to learn Spanish?

i want to learn spanish so bad but i didnt know where to start so you helped alot. how do you say to a boy that he's cute?

[cuttiepie12]

Originally Posted by Música101

What else do you need help in?

stuff like....why didnt you call me? or i think that guy is hot. stuff like that and how to greet people.

[cuttiepie12]

can sum1 translate these phrases from Cuchi Cuchi by L.G.?

Ay papi que rico tu.

Ahora si estoy lista para el.

Papi dame duro hasta que te pida la bamba.

Papito, como quieres que me ponga.

Yo te sigo dando de mi.

[viciousz_love]

Originally Posted by cuttiepie12

i am all american...well im african american...but i love reggaeton music. i hate it when all my friends say your black not spanish. i just tell them idc cuz reggaeton is the best...some of he songs i have no absolute clue wat they talking about...so i hope that everybody that knows spanish up in hurr can help me out.lol. ive also been trying to learn spanish and i wanted to know is it easier to learn the proper or slang way???? well whoever can get back to me on that id appriciate it

yeayea i get the same thing because i'm white, but my spanish within the next 2 yrs will become fluent hopefully :]

learn proper spanish first because slang varies everywhere and in one place where you may be understood, you wouldn't be understood in another. if you learn proper spanish you will always be understood no matter where you are or what you're reading or watching.

[dmoney101]

Originally Posted by viciousz_love

yeayea i get the same thing because i'm white, but my spanish within the next 2 yrs will become fluent hopefully :]

learn proper spanish first because slang varies everywhere and in one place where you may be understood, you wouldn't be understood in another. if you learn proper spanish you will always be understood no matter where you are or what you're reading or watching.

i almost got in a fight today in school with some white boy tryin to talk stuff. i hate livin with a bunch of rednecks now since i came up in a bad area where it was nothin but hispanics and some blacks. stuff like that really gets me and i gotta try hard not to beat the crap out of people. and i agree, learn as proper as you can, but try to learn slang at the same time since you don't wanna sound uptight and gringo-ish jaja.

[Zahra2008]

Originally Posted by cuttiepie12

i want to learn spanish so bad but i didnt know where to start so you helped alot. how do you say to a boy that he's cute?

Tú eres guapo / u r handsome
Tú eres lindo / u r cute
Tú eres un chico agradable / u r a nice guy

[Zahra2008]

Originally Posted by cuttiepie12

stuff like....why didnt you call me? or i think that guy is hot. stuff like that and how to greet people.

Hola, como estas? / Hello (hi), how are you?
Como has estado? / How are u been?


mmm, what else...... ask..... i can help u

[damarys]

Originally Posted by cuttiepie12

stuff like....why didnt you call me? or i think that guy is hot. stuff like that and how to greet people.

Why didn't you call me?
¿Porqué no me llamastes?

[cuttiepie12]

has anyone ever heard el mellao by julio voltio? wat is he talking about? translation please....


Bien pega’o’
Mami, bien pega’o’,
(Se repite tres veces)
Caminando por la calle eslembao’,
Tranquilito y del trabajo cansao’
Cuando esta jevita me pasa por al lao’
Digo: “Vaya mami que tumbao’”

Que cara linda, que caminao’
Dos o tres pasos y me dio por mirar pa’ atrás’
Ea’ rayo mira pa’ ya…
Yo vi una cosa que me dejó asombrao’
Había un chamaco almorzando sentao’
Y no tenía dientes y estaba mellao’
Y yo le grité: “¡Como mastica ese mellao’!”
Entonces fue que empezó la confusión,
Ella pensó que le grite a su colillón
Yo no sabía por qué razón, Ella viró pa’ atrás y me dio un pescozón
Mira estúpido, sucio, fresco
Mami dámelo si me lo merezco

Solo estas cosas me pasan a mí,
Por gritarle el corito que dice así…

[Coro]

Como mastica ese mellao’
Tremendo problema que me he buscao’
Como mastica ese mellao’
Como guineo en boca de vieja y se quedó mirando pal lao’
Como mastica ese mellao’

No tiene dientes pero aprieta como un chao chao
Como mastica ese mellao’
Tan chiquitito, oye, pero que esmayao’
Bien pega’o’
Mami, bien pega’o’
Bien pega’o’
Mami, bien pega’o’
Bien pega’o’
Mami, bien pega’o’
Bien pega’o’
Mami, bien pega’o’

Esto pa’ que lo guaye apretao’
En una esquinita guillao’
En Colombia, Venezuela o Cibao’
Desde Cabo Rojo hasta Humacao,
Que pajo’ ma’?
Saca lo que tienes guardao’
Dame un poquito melao’, melao’
Ten cuidao’ mami por ahí viene el guaraguao,
Comiendo a tos’ los pollitos soleaos’
Reguetón moreno, pa’ que mueva el bombón
Sin pelea lo que hay es vacilón,
En la calle, discoteca o en el balcón
O en el brincoteo’ en el colchón

Bien pegao’
Mami, bien pegao’
Bien pegao’
Mami, bien pegao’
Bien pegao’
Mami, bien pegao’
Bien pegao’
Mami, bien pegao’

Saca lo que tienes gualdao’ dame un poquito de ese melao’ melao’
Llega Julio Voltio contándole al mellao’
Que no se duerma el aprovechao’

[Coro 2]

Como mastica ese mellao’
El mellao’ es la colilla cuando el pantalón esta bien apretao’
Como mastica ese mellao’
El mellao’ se traga el licra , la faldita o ese g-stro ahorcao’
Como mastica ese mellao’
No se me ofenda señorita pero le queda de show tirao’
Como mastica ese mellao’
Oye abusadora después que la crías, la ahorcas
Bien pegao’

[citlalli]

El Mellao:

http://www.allthelyrics.com/forum/sp...tml#post328347

[cuttiepie12]

thanx so much my friend is dominican and she tried translating and she couldn't understand it bcuz she doesn't know that much slang only a lil bit so im gald that you got me the translation...the El mellao video is so funny now i know wat he's saying so its even funnier

[cuttiepie12]

do you pronounce the g in spanish or is it silent? can sum1 type the alphabet and then show me how you pronounce each letter? por favor

[dmoney101]

Originally Posted by cuttiepie12

do you pronounce the g in spanish or is it silent? can sum1 type the alphabet and then show me how you pronounce each letter? por favor

it depends what vowel it's before. if it's before an e or i (i think) it sounds like a j, and anything else is like an english g.

[citlalli]

Originally Posted by cuttiepie12

thanx so much my friend is dominican and she tried translating and she couldn't understand it bcuz she doesn't know that much slang only a lil bit so im gald that you got me the translation...the El mellao video is so funny now i know wat he's saying so its even funnier

Yep, it's very funny... I don't really like reggaeton at all, but this one song is the exception

[damarys]

Originally Posted by dmoney101

it depends what vowel it's before. if it's before an e or i (i think) it sounds like a j, and anything else is like an english g.

I'm going to write "ga, ge, gi, go, gu" with the pronunciation next to it, the way I learned it when I was young (very young) is "ga - gah; ge - heh, gi - he; go - goh; gu - goo

gata (female cat, pronounced "gahtah")
gente (people, pronounced "henteh")
girar (to spin, pronounced "heerar")
gota (drop, pronounced "gohtah")
gustar (to like, pronounced "goostar")

[xiurell]

the sound of the -g as in english got, game, etc

must be written that way (with all the vowels)

ga, gue, gui, go, gu

for the sound -j as he, house, etc

ja, je/ge, ji/gi, jo, ju

btw damarys ¿qué indica la h final en la pronunciación?
go - goh me llama la atención