Learning Turkish language

[Croat]

Merhaba

Thanks to everyone for helping us with learning Türkçe

http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/

here you can find many stuffs about grammar

Teşekkürler. Güle güle

[babybrian]

one of my american teachers tries to learn turkish..............result is real bad, he says that turkish is really complicated

[NPazarka]

A few things make it look like it's a complicated language (certainly when your language its grammer cannot be compared to it) but I think it's a very logical language. No one ever said that learning another language is a piece of cake.. It all depends, some people get it faster than others but where's a will, there's a way .

[xoNuraox]

NPazarka and ilkin

cok cok tesekur ederim

k i b

thank you so much again

this site is really helpful with people who forgot turkish :$

[aylin]

A few things make it look like it's a complicated language (certainly when your language its grammer cannot be compared to it) but I think it's a very logical language. No one ever said that learning another language is a piece of cake.. It all depends, some people get it faster than others but where's a will, there's a way .

I agree with u plus i dont like the easy things

[babybrian]

no, turkish is not logical, that's the question
we take some words from other languages and bend it and use it
and turkish is also very very elastic, I mean, I love it from almost every word you can understand a rude thing ahh I love turkish !

[Croat]

Well it's beautiful language i don't know about this rude words that babybrian is talking about not interested in that
for me it is logical language...bigger problem is to know where to start...what things to learn first and what to leave for learning later...cause in school u learn some basic things then some words and u make simple sentences...then lil bit advanced things and lil bit more complicated sentences... now i just learn everything i find and see at same time and write it down in notebook and hope to memorise everything so it's mess, when i organise it i don't think i'll have problems with learning Turkish

[aksios]

no language is easy to learn, i think. there is no primitive or basic language at all. the matter is that. mostly poeple in here speak a language whose origin is different from turkish. i mean, for example, russian is not in the same origin tree with turkish, neither greek, nor english, serbian, bosnian, croatian are all in indo-european language family.so there are some similarities between them.if you knew for example japanese ,korean or mongolian, you would see more similarities between these languages and turkish, if one of them was your mother tongue, you would learn turkish more easily. i mean, why some of you think that turkish is complicated is because of the fact that turkish doesnt have similar grammar or even grammar rules, as phonology, as syntax, turkish is quite different. for example while you use some words to say ' you are one of who will not be able to go?' we can say it with just a word... lol
Gidemeyeceklerdensin!!!! he he
i love turkish!

[Montserrat]

Can one of you take a look at the song I posted and help me?

Thanks a lot
Montserrat

[Croat]

hahahahaha aksios i know that about making sentence with one word ... Afyonkarahisarlılastıramadıklarımızdan mısınız? when i saw this first time i was :S one word and million suffixes

well when i mention this Afyonkarahisarlılastıramadıklarımızdan and aksios said Gidemeyeceklerdensin what is rule about ordering suffixes...i mean what goes before others...

[munevversb]

Question Tags

Isn't it?, Aren't you? , Aren't they? etc - are all translated by the single tag değil mi?

meşgulum, değil mi? = i’m busy, aren’t i?
meşgulsun, değil mi? = u r busy, aren’t u?
Aylin meşgul, değil mi? = Aylin is busy, isn’t she?
meşguluz, değil mi? we are busy, aren’t we?
meşgulsunuz, değil mi? you are busy, aren’t you?
meşgullar, değil mi? they are busy? aren’t they?

affedersin,ama I would say that değil mi? - right?? demek or isn't it?

but (ben) değilim mi? aren't I . demek.işte tam emin değilim,ama bence öle
(İ am not sure 100% but I would say taht is like that)


Selam ve sevgiler.with love

[aksios]

hahahahaha aksios i know that about making sentence with one word ... Afyonkarahisarlılastıramadıklarımızdan mısınız? when i saw this first time i was :S one word and million suffixes

well when i mention this Afyonkarahisarlılastıramadıklarımızdan and aksios said Gidemeyeceklerdensin what is rule about ordering suffixes...i mean what goes before others...

well there is rule , let me briefly tell you the derivationlal morphemes are added to the words first, after these suffixes(mostly suffix) , then the others... for the others , there is a chart down

sequance of the noun cases

for just one add: noun+plural EG. araba+LAR (car+S)

noun+case suffixes EG. araba+A*\DA\DAN (TO\ AT-IN-ON\FROM car)

noun+reflexive suffix EG. araba+M\N\I**\MIZ\NIZ\LARI (MY\YOUR\HIS-HER\OUR\YOUR\THEIR car)


for two adds:noun+plural+reflexive suffix EG. araba+LAR+M***\N***\I\MIZ***\NIZ***\I (MY\YOUR\HIS-HER\OUR\YOUR\THEIR carS)

noun+plural+case suffixes EG. araba+LAR+A\DA\DAN (TO\ AT-IN-ON\FROM carS)

noun+reflexive suffix+case suffixes EG. araba+M\N\I*\MIZ\NIZ\LARI+****A\DA\DAN (TO\AT-IN-ON\FROM MY\YOUR\HIS-HER\OUR\YOUR\THEIR car)


for three adss:noun+plural+reflexive suffix+case suffixes EG. araba+LAR+M\N\I\MIZ\NIZ\I+A\DA\DAN ( TO\AT-IN-ON\FROM MY\YOUR\HIS-HER\OUR\YOUR\THEIR carS)


maybe it looks complicated, but if you have trouble with anything, ask

the suffixes i pu * is because of the words we put between two vowels or two consonants. like
* araba+A (TO car)= arabaya, y is for linking them
** araba+I (HIS-HER car) = arabası, s is for linking
*** araba+LAR+M\N\I\MIZ\NIZ\I =arabalarım(my cars),arabaların(your cars),arabaları(there is no linking word for I, that is for HIS-HER)(his-her cars),arabalarımız(our cars), arabalarınız(your cars), arabaları(their cars)(again there is no linking w. for their)


there three are for you to see the cases. if you want me to write all the words with suffixes one by one , i will, just tell me

i hope this is a little helpful for you , puff, i tried really hard!

[ilkin]

Gidemeyeceklerdensin what is rule about ordering suffixes...i mean what goes before others...

Gidemeyeceklerdensin

the root: git - go

gidecek - he'll go (t softens to d)
gitMEyecek - he'll NOT go (t restores because of m. ME for negation, y for separating two vowels)
gidEmeyecek - he won't BE ABLE TO go (t again softens. E signals ability)
gidemeyecekLER - THEY won't be able to go (LER for plural)

so far it's a verb, now it switches to a noun:

gidemeyeceklerDEN - FROM those who won't be able to go (DEN is a noun suffix and makes the word a noun)
gidemeyeceklerdenSİN - YOU (are) from those who won't be able to go (finally, the pronoun)

as for the rule, aksios clarifies it for nouns, but i don't know all the rules, do you (for your own language, i mean)? there is a rule or rules, of course, but i don't know them, and i don't encourage you to learn rules. i only encourage you to read or listen without even thinking about how we add the suffixes. trust in your brain, it'll do most of the job by discerning the underlying pattern even without your being aware of it. on the contrary, the more you push it consciously the longer it'll take to realize the pattern.

... and this is just my opinion and i don't think it's a scientific one, but i know it from own experiences.

[Croat]

well thank you both for all this aksios thx it is helpful ilkin: i just started with learning turkish, i ll write sentence with million words if i have to for now till i learn more...i just saw few examples like this, sentence in one word, and wondered how do u make it.....

well thx to both of u once again

[aksios]

ilkin is right about this unconscious. because we acquired our language, mother tongue, without working on it. because our brain has capacity of having the things which are systematic, we acquire it. language acquisition progress unconcsiously. but to make it faster and better, you must be exposed to the language, i mean, you must be living in here, where tukish is spoken. so, dont wait more, come here dear
let it aside, i mean, you must practice it at least now that you cant be exposed to turkish, try to use it as much as you can!

and ask whatever you are troubled!
yeter ki sor! he he

[Croat]

well sure...u can learn any language really fast if you're surrounded by ppl who speak that language, so that u have to use it everyday all day long...maybe not complete gramma but speaking and understanding for sure...I'll come to Istanbul this summer, i hope so, to see girl... so i'll have a chance to listen turkish a lot for some time till then i'll just use whatever u ppl write here and everything else i found or what she teaches me

[kiyora_online]

man! i find it COmpliCated


>> i luv the language nd the country .. but things seem hard to learn ..


:-$

[aksios]

Croat:
well, i think the effect of her is huge on you! you will speak turkish as your mother tongue soon, i am sure

kiyora_online:
welcome, i guess you are new here, well i hope what we do will help you and as i understood you have turkish friends as well, then you are lucky! with best regards

[TahitianBella]

it seems to me that a lot of people learn another language because of a special person in that country i did that too now i just have to find out home much it will cost to visit turkey in 2010

does anybody know where i can get the Berlitz Turkish Phrasebook and Dictionary? I found a site that sells them but I don't know if they send them to Australia... also, does anybody know if this book is worth buying?

[Croat]

aksios: well of course ...i mean we can talk on english without problems but learning turkish is more special

tahitianbella:
http://books.buyaustralian.com/popca...=buyaustralian

it's australian page so i guess they will send it to u and there's lot of books for learning turkish so pick good useful one...good luck with studying