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Old 10-01-2007, 07:41 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Listen to the band Alesana. All of their stuff is amazing.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:11 PM   #32 (permalink)
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today its called emoscreamo though it may have been two different genre in the 80's but now adays its the same.....
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:38 AM   #33 (permalink)
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It's never been called emoscreamo as long as I've been alive but then again, I don't watch MTV with it's "we'll call it anything to make people watch our programming."


I was either emo (emotional hardcore) or screamo (emotional hardcore with screaming), never the two together...


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Old 10-08-2007, 11:06 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I agree to an extent that 'emo' and 'screamo' are separate genres, but you have to admit that there is a lot of overlap. I mean, some bands only do the tiniest bit of scream in some of their songs, so I wouldn't classify them as screamo, eg. My Chemical Romance, Brand New, Senses Fail.

I'd only call bands screamo if scream & throat work were the predominant feature in their songs, eg. I Killed The Prom Queen, Shadows Fail, Atreyu.

And emo is such a broad genre... like two bands can be considered emo and can have pretty different sounds.

Lol. To spare myself the confusion, I just call them both 'alternative rock' cos that covers pretty much everything from emo to grunge to death metal...
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:54 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Actually. "alternative rock" was stuff like

Smashing Pumpkins, Alice In Chains..... stuff that not grunge but not metal...




I dont want to look argumentitive but I have seen emo and screamo come and go (and believe me, both are dead to the wall now) and know the difference between the two...



...ior do I? Fashioncore is **** no matter how you slice it



Oh and no, "alternative rock" does NOT cover death metal, "death metal" does - the clue is in the name - ROCK and METAL - two different things even tho' they are similar... god, I hate to be right sometimes
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:19 AM   #36 (permalink)
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But then again what constitutes right and wrong? Anything and everything in the world is open to individual interpretation, and thus one person's 'truth' could completely conflict with another's. So while you believe you're right and I believe I'm right, we're really both right in our own minds. That's good enough for me.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:59 PM   #37 (permalink)
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But then again what constitutes right and wrong? Anything and everything in the world is open to individual interpretation, and thus one person's 'truth' could completely conflict with another's. So while you believe you're right and I believe I'm right, we're really both right in our own minds. That's good enough for me.

Actually, I know what I'm talking about, it's not opinion, it's experience as I've lived through the old emo and the new watered down carp emo


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Old 10-10-2007, 06:14 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I am sorry to say that times change and with that the genres do to match what is being released. There are now that many sub groups within a genre that it is now difficult to know what goes where and a lot of the time it is down to how somebody hears and interprets a song as to where they place it. Also I believe there is a lot of confusion just down to the artists not knowing where to place themselves and mixing their styles. That however is just my opinion, I am not claiming to be right and I am not claiming that this is fact, just an opinion.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:16 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Butn then again, only marketting people and those with the lack of free will believe those sub genres

they're basically the same thing but newer...



Like people who claim Shadows Fall are screamo have never ever heard of Slayer or speed metal/hardcore before...
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:31 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Eyes Set To Kill is pretty good, so is Saosin.
and I know like, two people have said Alesana, but seriously. Check them out.

You guys do know that bands can fall under many genres, right? 'Cause it seems like hardly anyone is getting that...
buttt whatever.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:42 PM   #41 (permalink)
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try the red Jumpsuit apparatus, if you want the screamo emo songs try *** Shaker, andthe grim goodbye, the other songs ave some screaming in them and some are just emo
hope this helps =)
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anything by Sparks The Rescue
They are an amazing local screamo band =)
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:52 PM   #43 (permalink)
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You guys do know that bands can fall under many genres, right?
Yes but you do know that some of us are over the age of 15 and don't need to make new genres up for the sake of trend
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Listen to the band Alesana. All of their stuff is amazing.
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:03 PM   #45 (permalink)
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you guys need to get out of this ****, first of all, i had to just make an account to reply to this thread. i found this peice of **** threat looking for a legit screamo forum. and you guys know nothing about music. literally, none of you listed and ACTUAL screamo OR emo band. not one of you knows anything how ****ing pathetic. this is why people don't know what real music is because you can't refer anything true to their genre.
you ****ing idiots, silverstein, sksk, underoath??
what the **** is that bullshit?
that is all metalcore bullshit. fortunately, underoath is influenced by Converge.
which is hardcore, not that you have ever listened to real hardcore obviously.
if you guys want to be the people you think you are then i will point you fags in your skinny jeans and eyemakeup in the right direction.
for starters, don't bother listening to emo, you won't like it, unless you can listen to cap'n jazz.
or you can combine screamo and emo and get emo violence or whatever bullshit
but for screamo look up (on your shitty ***** myspaces)
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neil perry
saetia
kodan armada
takaru
envy
amanda woodward
daitro
enoch ardon
kidcrash
la quiete
ampere

also, emo is not defined by the ****ing lyrics you idiots.
it's all about the sound, screamo is played as loud as the vocals, high tempos, rad chords, usually cool picking skills for intros and outros. the way the guitars are played etc.etc. it's all about the sound, has nothing to do with the lyrics
so stop being ****ing idiots and learn your music, stop listening to stupid kids with their fake *** poser ****, and no matter what you say to reply to this **** (i wont read it) and also, it's wrong, i guarantee you it's wrong. don't even try telling me i'm wrong, once you figure out what emotionally charged hardcore punk is, and what it broke up into you will figure it out, till then, start on those bands. you're welcome.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:09 AM   #46 (permalink)
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also, emo is not defined by the ****ing lyrics you idiots.
it's all about the sound,
No it's not, Emo stood for EMOtional hardcore and the lyrics were a high factor that stood alongside how the songs were written - Hardcore was about unity and family, Emo was about poetry, lost lost and friendship...


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screamo is played as loud as the vocals, high tempos, rad chords, usually cool picking skills for intros and outros. the way the guitars are played etc.etc. it's all about the sound, has nothing to do with the lyrics
Screamo is emo but the choruses are screamed... Screamo was a term coined to make fun of emo bands who thought they were Agnostic Front, it wasn't an affectionate term but just like "punk" (which originally meant a young, male prostitute) the fans of the genre took it in and used it for their own gains.

so stop being ****ing idiots and learn your music, stop listening to stupid kids with their fake *** poser ****, and
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no matter what you say to reply to this **** (i wont read it) and also, it's wrong, i guarantee you it's wrong.
1. If you're not going to read our replies, how are you going to know we're wrong?

2. If you're so set against being educated, that's filed under ignorance and if you're ignorant, why are you a part of the hardcore scene?

3. Why come on here just to argue (because, no matter how much you squeal that you were looking for some lyrics or whatever, for all intents and purposes, that's exactly what you did)

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you guys need to get out of this ****, first of all, i had to just make an account to reply to this thread. i found this peice of **** threat looking for a legit screamo forum. and you guys know nothing about music. literally, none of you listed and ACTUAL screamo OR emo band. not one of you knows anything how ****ing pathetic. this is why people don't know what real music is because you can't refer anything true to their genre.
you ****ing idiots, silverstein, sksk, underoath??
what the **** is that bullshit?
that is all metalcore bullshit. fortunately, underoath is influenced by Converge.
which is hardcore, not that you have ever listened to real hardcore obviously.
if you guys want to be the people you think you are then i will point you fags in your skinny jeans and eyemakeup in the right direction.
for starters, don't bother listening to emo, you won't like it, unless you can listen to cap'n jazz.
or you can combine screamo and emo and get emo violence or whatever bullshit
Wow, you're really rebellious with your lack of knowledge about anyone on here and your technichal grasp of the English Language.

1. I got my knowledge from listening to Punk/hardcore/emo/thrash metal as a child because in those days it was more or less the same thing, fast, aggressive, hardcore... I do not listen to the bands listed as emo nowadays because I don't class them as punk at all, I don't class Green Day in the same box as the Clash, Buzzcocks or Sham 69... I listenhed to music, I learnt the bands and I followed them, I did not show myself to be a stupid imbicile arguing with people when I knew nothing, I learnt and my knowledge grew...

2. I use Myspace but to class me as some floppy fringed idiot is showing just how immature and ignorant you must be. Mine has each band I've ever played with and every person I value as a musician and I have known (not just for chufty points) and spoke to/drunk with regularly...

3. Every inch of knowledge is correct from my experience with bands first hand and I have learnt and I do not argue with people on the internet (unless they are spouting complete sh** about something they know nothing about - Like you.). Because as every good old school punk will tell you - KNOWLEDGE IS POWER AND KNOW THINE ENEMY

If you hate something, have a legitimate reason why
If you have to swear, do it in a controlled and mature way
If you believe something is wrong - say why, not just "bcos it is, lollllz"



Not bad for a 30 year old thrash fan, is it?
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Old 01-26-2008, 08:08 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Listen to "Envy", it's a japanese screamo band. I really like their song "Scene", it kicks ***.
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Who out there has an emo band or knows of an emo band undescovered/signed?
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screamo sometimes scares me....
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What scares me is the fact people buy into this crap
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:00 PM   #52 (permalink)
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my best freind is emo so is one of my best guy freinds or there just gothic
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:34 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Escape The Fate
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Old 04-29-2008, 05:33 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Anyone heard the band 'I hate myself' ?

I dislike most emo music, but they are reaaaaaaaaally good.

It's hard to come across their songs though. The song 'Conversation with dr. suessicide' has great lyrics.
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Old 05-04-2008, 03:25 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Alesana rocks so hard. They are like my fav screamo band.
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:00 PM   #56 (permalink)
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you can go on youtube and find alot of emo songs and vids to go with.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:22 AM   #57 (permalink)
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The Devil Wears Prada is definitely not 'emo', or 'screamo'
but then again, if you look at it ALL music is emotional.

most music is about love, hate, life, etc..
most people are closed minded and think that emo music is just rock.

some bands you might like are..
Taking Back Sunday. ( I used to be a big fan, now their music sucks!)
Dashboard Confessional. ( A bit to emotional for me..)
The Get Up Kids.
Hawthorne Heights.
The Early November. ( One of my FAVORITE bands!)
Thursday.
Sunny Day Real Estate. ( I grew up listening to this bands.)

Screamo..
As I Lay Dying.
Underoath.

Listen to older stuff of them bands. they both suck now. :/
I can't wait until the 'scene' crap goes away.
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WHOA, PEOPLE, im stunned by your ignorance!
you really should listen to this man which told you much of insult words.. but behind these insults there were REAL WORDS, the real definition of screamo/emo!
you think, alesana - WHOA THATS SCREAMO!!!!

what?

NO, thats not screamo, maybe post-hardcore...

so again

WHOA I LOVE MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE, THATS EMO HUU

WHAAAT?

no, thats not emo, that is POP-ROCK, REALLY
you would say to me : woo man, you care too much, who cares about genres..
yeah, i care, and much of people care
you even dont know how you piss us OFF WITH YOUR "MY CHEMICAL'S ARE EMO"...

so you want to know what is emo?
visit www.fourfa.com
learn something, listen to bands presented on this site
you would say :" NO THIS IS NOT LIKE MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE THIS IS SOO UGLY THEYRE SCREAMING LIKE DYING PEOPLE OH NOES "
but i would say, no, thats the real thing, real emo/screamo... bands like Moonraker, Julia(american), Moss Icon, The Hated they were emo! their roots we're hardcore, they though punkish - do it yourself, that's epic in punk DYI, no commercial and sponsors... they've done everything by their own
and why its called emo?
that's easy
listen to it and you will know

so, i hope you will learn something and will never mistake emo anymore, right?
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