help, what language is this? - Page 2

bertold · 08-31-2007, 11:06 AM

IMO there is none of writable languages. There is in Poland for example geographical region called Kaszuby and living there people speak their own language whitch is not even close polish. So I think it could be some kind of tribal language like eskimoo, tchughtcha, navajo, pawnee or so.

dann_poland · 09-01-2007, 10:59 AM

it's not polish from Kaszuby, for sure

tzina772000 · 09-01-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bertold

IMO there is none of writable languages. There is in Poland for example geographical region called Kaszuby and living there people speak their own language whitch is not even close polish. So I think it could be some kind of tribal language like eskimoo, tchughtcha, navajo, pawnee or so.

and someon who is from polland cannot understand teh dialects??? In Greece although we may not now them all we are able to tell where it's coming from.

dann_poland · 09-02-2007, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tzina772000

and someon who is from polland cannot understand teh dialects???

It's very hard to understand this dialects but some words are the same and letters are the same so it's not a new language

bertold · 09-02-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dann_poland

it's not polish from Kaszuby, for sure

I did't say it's polish from Kaszuby.

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Originally Posted by dann_poland

letters are the same so it's not a new language

Yes but there is also a number of letters other than polish ABC and I also did't say it's a new language. I just said that there are rare languages with very few writen sources and despite of that they are living languages.

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Originally Posted by tzina772000

and someon who is from polland cannot understand teh dialects???

This is why I called it language not dialect.

angeliki_sr · 09-02-2007, 08:48 AM

wow.I have no idea which language is that,and it doesn't look slavic to me(I am serbian).Maybe it's esperanto

arpi · 09-11-2007, 12:30 AM

Some turkish simbols,some slavik, but I think its Tadjik or kirgiz .. May be..

tzina772000 · 09-11-2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by arpi

Some turkish simbols,some slavik, but I think its Tadjik or kirgiz .. May be..

They exist as languages???
Could it be albanian??

Spring · 09-11-2007, 01:21 PM

I think someone made it up to drive us crazy!
lol

tzina772000 · 09-11-2007, 01:46 PM

if that is true..... arghhhhhhh

PROPEL · 09-11-2007, 03:13 PM

i found some of the words from wikipeida (ive heard that wikipedia isnt that good of a site)

but some of the words were from an old eurpean language

tzina772000 · 09-12-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PROPEL

i found some of the words from wikipeida (ive heard that wikipedia isnt that good of a site)

but some of the words were from an old eurpean language

Which is propel?????????? What old European language you reffer to?????

Milena · 09-12-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tzina772000

They exist as languages???

The Kirghiz language is a dialect of Turkish.

PROPEL · 09-12-2007, 01:57 PM

they didnt have the exact name becuase they didn't know where the specific laguage came from, they did know it was in europe..

i'll try and find the artile.

PROPEL · 09-12-2007, 09:12 PM

here's the article - i saved it in WordPad - i wanted to put it on here but i forgot. here it is!! (i found this tuesday night)

..." In other news, linguists from different countires in the Eurpean Area, are debating about where this language came from. The linguists thought this language would have been most active around the 1400's. There are records and writings of this language that appear to be around that date of time. They found these records around the area's of where the current contries of Czechoslovika, Poland, Ukraine, and in the southern tip of Belarus. They belive that this might be a type of a Slavic language because of where the orgins are. But as the linguists studied the words, they do not appear Slavic. So why did the linguists think they were Slavic? Well, most of the reasons were to this; 1. The origins where the records were collected, 2. The sounds of the words, or 3. The spelling and letters. Other linguists argue otherwise. They do not say it is Slavic. They say that, "The words cannot honestly be Slavic. If you look at the words, most of them do not even to have the Slavic sounds that we know of!", a linguist from Warsaw, Poland added. They are wanting this discussion to stay in the European Area, but that is easier said than done. Only certian countries are allowed to debate this. As of today, (7 - 12 - 06) this debate will still continue until they decide what language family this language belongs too, and the 2 most important questions, What is this language called, and Is it still alive today?

Below are some of the examples of some of the words (with pronouciations) and you can decide for yourself if they are Slavic or not.

Kulna lournia ( kool-nah low-er-ni-ah )- From the land
Enuyvelagh ( eh-nu-vi-leh-kah) - Everything
Cione (sy-oh-neh) - Speaking
Kyzerki (ki-ser-ki) - To walk
Miglaji (mih-gh-la-gi) - Moving
Anatay (ah-nah-tai) - Anything
Avzgoї (ahv-zeh-goy) - To have
Tarne (tah-er-neh) - To eat
Voer (vow-er) - To decive
Texau (tehk-ser-ah) - Read (to have the power to read)
Rbour (ruh-bow-uhr) - Finish (Terminate)

Here is one of the records that were found. This is provided with the English translation and with the unknown language.

"From the heavens to the depths of the sea; he who is not greatful; will decive from the light. This light as we call it ''External" peace; from he who has giving of his heart; to have and to cherish..."

"Zernu muler ayskzi Nier ausay onk sutú; muac anadrilnїa; pasin atai sabiydi. Súbiydi habu dif stern neba "Agovsisour" sizh; dru múal ovan de sukaun; avzgoї triytu moluda..."

tzina772000 · 09-13-2007, 01:50 AM

Something I didn't got Propel. You are the one who posted the original post with the song. And as it appears you already knew the existance of the article, or at least you found it in a later time but you didn't inform us of that. Linguists couldn't answer your question, why should we be able to???? Personally I'm not a linguist or pretend to be.

PROPEL · 09-13-2007, 06:47 PM

no i didn't know the article excisted. i found it on tuesday night. and it was too late to post it, so i posted it wed.

i was just wondering if anyone else had heard of it. i didn't know that no one heard about it. and im not a linguist either, and im not pretending to be one either, but i was just wondering if anyone else had heard about it, and if they had any more information.

that's all.

i didn't say you had to be linguist to figure this out.

tzina772000 · 09-15-2007, 12:52 PM

Normally when a knew language is found it's the linguists that get together to find out where that language came from (in what family of languages it belongs).

How did that song arrived to your hands??? Someone sings it right??? You've heard it somewhere right??? What's the group/artist that does sing it?? you could send a mail to that person (just and idea)

PROPEL · 09-15-2007, 02:46 PM

i found the song on the internet.
it was probably an old song. (maybe folk song)
i did have the mp3 of it, but my comp. messed up and i can't find it anywhere.
i dont know the group/ artist of the song

tzina772000 · 09-15-2007, 04:09 PM

I hope it's not an ERA kind of thing. Meaning words that have no meaning, but are very close to a spoken or a dead language.
Did it seem a balcan sound????

PROPEL · 09-15-2007, 06:16 PM

it might be a dead language. not sure
whats ''balcan''

the mp3 sounded like church choirs.. or something like that

lollipop · 09-16-2007, 02:25 AM

Well...now, that you have described this sound...could it be, like it sounded like Cirque de Soleil music??
Cirque de Soleil music was put together originally from gibberish words, the language of the songs for their show was invented by themselves...
For later shows, there are actual words in their songs, but earlier the words meant nothing...

Few links:
this:
YouTube - Dralion (Cirque du soleil)
or this:
YouTube - AlegrÃ*a - CIRQUE DU SOLEIL
or this:
YouTube - Cirque Du Soleil Varekai - Name that song!

*SadEdit*: Nah, it can't be like that, because now I read page 1 here, and you said, that all website was written in this language. Nope, it can't be Cirque Du Soleil then either...
Anyways, i will keep this posted links here, I think, no one has anything against it, of hearing beautiful music, while trying to guess this odd language... Maybe it is an old dead language after all, and we will never know, what it is

PROPEL · 09-16-2007, 11:48 AM

^i listened to those songs.... they weren't really like Cirque Du Soleil

i honestly think it's a dead language. beacuse we cant find anything on it.

Spring · 09-16-2007, 12:21 PM

have you tried asking on a linguistics forum?

PROPEL · 09-16-2007, 08:22 PM

i didnt know that there was even a linguist forum.

can you give me some examples if you know any?

tzina772000 · 09-17-2007, 06:52 AM

just google "linguist forums"

Spring · 09-17-2007, 01:12 PM

or linguistics forum(s) but please come back to tell us what you discovered (if you ever manage to find out something...)

PROPEL · 09-17-2007, 08:30 PM

ok i will!

PROPEL · 09-19-2007, 02:38 PM

im going tonight, going to message some of the linguist of some of the fourms about this. i'll post the messages when i get a response.

Carlitos.cr · 09-20-2007, 10:43 PM

Hi everyone,

I think that there are only two possibilities:

1. Its an old language (couldn't be an extinct one because, how would they compose a song in a language that no one knows any more???)
2. it is an artificial language (I personally think this could be the case). Similar to the linguistic creations of JRR Tolkien in his books. Probably someone with good linguistic background developed it as a project... and wrote a song. I mean, there are many elements that could be attributed to one language or to the other. That is why one person says it is slavic, the other says it is hungarian, etc etc.

Just my humble comments.

Best regards from Costa Rica
Carlos.