help, what language is this? - Page 4

igrec · 10-16-2007, 01:32 PM

Tzina, you're so right about indoeuropean languages.
Btw, for curiosity, I learnt today at history about some changes and influences in slavic languages. It may be slavic, it tends to be serbian, but some lost dialect from South of Mehedinti (continuos of the Romanian Carpathians), in the South of Dunare. I'm sure 60% because that zone were such a "problem one" for the serbians.
This connot be Romanian because we do not have in our grammar letters like that. We have some exceptions like : ă, î, ş, ţ, â. And these came from turkish influences.
It might be some african dialect, but I don't remember the africans to play like he said.
And it's sure it's from Balkans because it has the particularities of a balkan language.
Greatings.

tzina772000 · 10-17-2007, 02:55 PM

I'm not a linguist so some things I'm trying to explain them with my logic (meaning how I would call them). Of course that means that I may be wrong in some things(or even all). I didn't knew that Turkish belongs to the Altay language group. I don't know how the linguists make these kind of classifications(I thought till now based on the place where they were "born", but that is obviously wrong). Some of the questions I do is to learn what I don't know (they are not ironic in any way, even if sometimes they may seem so. I assure you in Greek they don't seem like that)

igrec · 10-18-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tzina772000

I'm not a linguist so some things I'm trying to explain them with my logic (meaning how I would call them). Of course that means that I may be wrong in some things(or even all). I didn't knew that Turkish belongs to the Altay language group. I don't know how the linguists make these kind of classifications(I thought till now based on the place where they were "born", but that is obviously wrong). Some of the questions I do is to learn what I don't know (they are not ironic in any way, even if sometimes they may seem so. I assure you in Greek they don't seem like that)

It's obvious Tzina. I do the same

Well, for me is still a mistery this place of the birth of languages. Anyway, every linguist has his own theory.
Btw, this summer I know you had smoe problems near to your home with the fires. How are now that places ?
Greatings

Hatfinatka · 10-22-2007, 02:36 PM

It might me the language of the Roma. This would also explain why there is nothing about it on the internet, looking at the fact, that the Roma scarcley have acces to this media.

It also still might be a celtic language. I know someone ruled out Irish Gaelic, but what about Scottish? Or Cornish, Breton, Manx and Welsh? They are not that similar as far as I know.

Oh, and it´s not German or Polish

And personally I must say that it does not sound slavic to me at all.

angeliki_sr · 10-22-2007, 03:08 PM

It's definitely NOT slavic nor welsh,I mean this can't just can't be welsh,scottish.I think it's not indoeuropean!

tzina772000 · 10-23-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sosollikos

Btw, this summer I know you had smoe problems near to your home with the fires. How are now that places ?

Oh they have two of my favorite colors (black (burned trees) and brown(of the soil, which now it can be seen))

(yeap it's black humour!!). But the colors are trully from my favorites. In some days they gona have a kind of pretty dark-brown color (the mud of the rains down there) (again black humor!!).

noinnocentvictim · 12-15-2007, 04:25 PM

I'm positive it's not Scottish. Scottish doesn't use accents.
To me it looks slavic.

Spring · 12-15-2007, 05:08 PM

Well.. in one of my many google actions on this subject I've ran into a site with Old Church Slavonic using some of the words from the text..
But it didn't seem quite possible so I ruled out that idea
However, it is definitely not
# East Slavic = Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Rusyn
# South Slavic
* Western Slavic = Serbian, Slovenian, Croatian and Bosnian
* Eastern subgroup composed of Bulgarian and Macedonian
# West Slavic
* Czech and Slovak
* Lechitic languages: Polish...

= i wouldnt know about these though...
* Upper and Lower Sorbian (minority languages in Germany)
* Lechitic languages: ...Pomeranian/Kashubian and extinct Polabian

Kulim · 12-20-2007, 05:06 AM

How about Basque?

For sure it's not any languages from Southeast Asia and the Far East...

x L o n e s o m e · 12-22-2007, 08:03 PM

maybe its albanian or some kind of gypsy lang.

rosadelamor · 01-13-2008, 02:05 PM

it could be either the iceland, swiss or polish language
its definately not spanish

woowoos · 01-21-2008, 03:29 AM

I don't know if anyone replied and too many posts to go through....found this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ido

Identified the language at...

http://ruphus.com/identify/

LaaSemaa · 01-21-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spring

it is also not
Originally Posted by tzina772000
I did that myself Esbes. Maybe we have to go by exclusion
It's not:
Arab
Danish
Dutch
Greek
Estonian
Hungarian
Italian
Russian
Spanish

it is also not
Bosnian
Croatian
Serbian
Slovenian
Bulgarian
Romanian
etc...

Maybe it's some Mexican language

it's also not
turkish

woowoos · 01-21-2008, 04:48 PM

Read my reply above...I already found what it is....it is a language called "IDO".

From Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ido

tzina772000 · 01-25-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by woowoos

Read my reply above...I already found what it is....it is a language called "IDO".

From Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ido

Good try, but nope it's not. In wikipedia there are links of vocabularies and apart some articles no other word is in them. Apart from that someone who knew Esperanto would be able to understand partially the song.Esperanto is close to Spanish, and there are enough people in here that are able to understand a little bit of it.

operafantomet · 01-25-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rosadelamor

it could be either the iceland, swiss or polish language
its definately not spanish

Definitely not Icelandic.

(ETA: because I can partially read Icelandic - I studied Norse, the forerunner of Icelandic and Norwegian, at school for a year)

I'm guessing it's a Latinised transcription of a non-indo-European language.
Or someone pulling our leg.

Música101 · 01-25-2008, 06:19 PM

Maybe it's an Asian langauge like vietnamese or cambodian or Lao

Or Maybe it's some Native American language.
It also kinda looks like Finndlish.

operafantomet · 01-26-2008, 02:17 AM

No, Finnish is heavy on doube letters (vowels and consonants alike), which the provided lyric totally lacks.

lollipop · 01-26-2008, 06:19 AM

Ok, people, Propel has posted this few pages back, so I don't think, that we, who are not linguists, can guess a name of an language, that existed around 1400...

I leave here this quoted text for one more time

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Originally Posted by PROPEL

here's the article - i saved it in WordPad - i wanted to put it on here but i forgot. here it is!! (i found this tuesday night)

..." In other news, linguists from different countires in the Eurpean Area, are debating about where this language came from. The linguists thought this language would have been most active around the 1400's. There are records and writings of this language that appear to be around that date of time. They found these records around the area's of where the current contries of Czechoslovika, Poland, Ukraine, and in the southern tip of Belarus. They belive that this might be a type of a Slavic language because of where the orgins are. But as the linguists studied the words, they do not appear Slavic. So why did the linguists think they were Slavic? Well, most of the reasons were to this; 1. The origins where the records were collected, 2. The sounds of the words, or 3. The spelling and letters. Other linguists argue otherwise. They do not say it is Slavic. They say that, "The words cannot honestly be Slavic. If you look at the words, most of them do not even to have the Slavic sounds that we know of!", a linguist from Warsaw, Poland added. They are wanting this discussion to stay in the European Area, but that is easier said than done. Only certian countries are allowed to debate this. As of today, (7 - 12 - 06) this debate will still continue until they decide what language family this language belongs too, and the 2 most important questions, What is this language called, and Is it still alive today?

Below are some of the examples of some of the words (with pronouciations) and you can decide for yourself if they are Slavic or not.

Kulna lournia ( kool-nah low-er-ni-ah )- From the land
Enuyvelagh ( eh-nu-vi-leh-kah) - Everything
Cione (sy-oh-neh) - Speaking
Kyzerki (ki-ser-ki) - To walk
Miglaji (mih-gh-la-gi) - Moving
Anatay (ah-nah-tai) - Anything
Avzgoї (ahv-zeh-goy) - To have
Tarne (tah-er-neh) - To eat
Voer (vow-er) - To decive
Texau (tehk-ser-ah) - Read (to have the power to read)
Rbour (ruh-bow-uhr) - Finish (Terminate)

Here is one of the records that were found. This is provided with the English translation and with the unknown language.

"From the heavens to the depths of the sea; he who is not greatful; will decive from the light. This light as we call it ''External" peace; from he who has giving of his heart; to have and to cherish..."

"Zernu muler ayskzi Nier ausay onk sutú; muac anadrilnїa; pasin atai sabiydi. Súbiydi habu dif stern neba "Agovsisour" sizh; dru múal ovan de sukaun; avzgoї triytu moluda..."

Música101 · 01-26-2008, 02:11 PM

maybe it's old english

PROPEL · 01-27-2008, 08:43 PM

i found a page on it!!!

http://www.abroadlanguages.com/fs399..._Language_/htm

oh, and to all you people who think i just made it up, or i am ''pulling your leg'', im not.
i just found it a long time ago, and when i came here, i thought that someone else had heard about it.
so im not pulling anyones leg, or i did not make anyof it up. (i dont have that much time on my hands to do something like that)

lollipop · 01-27-2008, 11:30 PM

Dear PROPEL, I am pretty sure, that "leg pulling" was more meant as a joke, and it was not directed at you at all..
And I also am very sure, that you have not made this up.

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Originally Posted by PROPEL

http://www.abroadlanguages.com/fs399..._Language_/htm

Unfortunately the link, that you have put here, turns back with message: "The page cannot be found", maybe you copied wrong address?

operafantomet · 01-28-2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PROPEL

oh, and to all you people who think i just made it up, or i am ''pulling your leg'', im not.
i just found it a long time ago, and when i came here, i thought that someone else had heard about it.
so im not pulling anyones leg, or i did not make anyof it up. (i dont have that much time on my hands to do something like that)

Might as well be someone pulling YOUR leg. It can't be a totally unknown language if there is a modern recording of it. Might be someone doing a major practical joke. Where did you find the transcribed lyric in the first flace?

PROPEL · 01-28-2008, 02:44 PM

Oh ok.. i thought that people thought that i made it up.. wheww. lol

the link doesn't work? it worked yesterday. it worked until my internet went down b/c my modem just tottaly blew out last night. i have a replacement now, but i'll have to get a new one.. ok anyways..

i'll try and get it work, and see if i can find that again really soon.

operafantoment, i got it on a website a LONG time ago. i can't even remember the website. i just saved the lyrics in my wordpad.