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07-24-2007, 04:26 AM
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ofcourse I do it for my beautiful friend,
but...OMG... I don't like her songs from that time when she has moved to Canada...
her latest albums are awful, I can't listen to her new songs even for 1 minute, I want that old GooGoosh :-( and her songs in 30 years ago :-( I love them
I'll do it and then you can understand what I'm saying about..
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salaaaaam vandiiiii ;-))
chetori? i absolutely agree with you that old googoosh ia muchhh better! you are soo right!
but i recently found this song, and i wondered what the translation will be.. but i will wait and see how awful it is! ;-))
i have another question.. can you explain to me what the difference is between
toee - to hasti.. ?
maybe it is a very stupid question, but i donīt know! :$
btw, greetings from mehdi :-))
khodahafez, love
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07-24-2007, 11:26 AM
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Hola Ecoliqua  ...i uploaded the song for you but i cant seem to find shabnami's version of it..here is the link for sattar's version:
Sattar - To Toro Didam - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download sattar - ta toro didam.mp3
LOL oh ok, to be honest i actually got it from the looney toons character spedy gonzales, not sure if you know him lol "andale andale arriba arribaaaa" haha :P:P
yayy vandi is here, i can speak to my vandi nowww hehe..lol nothins been up with me, how about u?? everythings doing ok?? mashallah my sickness is gone! - trust me its great news after having it for almost 3 weeks lol but i guess you could blame it on the winter season down here in aus
Salam, i LOVE juliana jendo aswell, she is considered almost as high as googoosh in assyrian music along with linda george aswell..
im also a big fan of dj illezt too :P, thats because i am dj illezt lol
Juliana jendo and Linda george are assyrian singers who both currently reside in the US at the moment but were born in iraq and shabnami surayyo is of tajiki descent from tajikistan (north-west of iran) but i am not sure where she is from but i know she is famous in afghanistan aswell
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You know who I CAN'T STAND, in terms of Assyrian singers? Fatin Shabo and Sargon Gabriel.
lol. But yeah WOO JULIANA JENDO! <3 lol
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07-24-2007, 02:14 PM
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hello every body or salam be hamegi
i see new guys and i welcome to new freinds
by vanda 's permision ( she is boss)
there is no difference between : toee and to hasti , it is like " she is " and " she's" in english.( an example)
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07-25-2007, 02:39 AM
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salam sooz welcome to this forum.. i agree with you that vanda is amazing!
funny you asked for toe mitooni.. if you didnīt ask, i would have!
so, thank you :-)
hope you stay with us! and donīt worry about your age! we donīt care.. we are all the same!
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Hi Nadieh,
Thank you for the welcome! I just love that song, and especially because Kamyar is featured in it. I made a video to that music for my friend in Tehran.
I love Kamyar's voice! Have you seen/heard him do Aghebat? That's the next song I wan't to ask for. But I can't find any lyrics yet - at least not transliterated ones.
Poor Vanda... she does so much translation for us. What can we do for you Vanda? I can translate German if you need. Some of Afshin's songs have German, particularly when his brother Amir sings.
It seems all of us non-Iranians are interested in Persian music for different reasons. I'm trying to learn the language too. I don't have much time to learn so it's very difficult if you don't practice every day!
sooz
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07-25-2007, 07:40 AM
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You know who I CAN'T STAND, in terms of Assyrian singers? Fatin Shabo and Sargon Gabriel.
lol. But yeah WOO JULIANA JENDO! <3 lol
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LOL fatin shabo, eww she cant sing in my opinion haha..Sargon gabriel is overrated by faaaaaaaar, but some of his songs are golden but i have to admit no male singer can possibly match evin agassi 
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07-25-2007, 12:25 PM
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Hi Noesje ... welcome to this forum deary
yes... all those lyrics are in Farsi(Parsi/Persian), not dari :-) you didn't make mistake. be sure that all of them are in farsi cause I can't translate Dari unfortunately :-(
anyways, as my dear Laura said, you can take something from easypersian and this forum too, thought I know my translation is not a good source to learning Farsi.
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Vanda, your english is perfect and your translations even more. But, you do something better than simple translating song from Farsi into english: you give all your enthusiasm with each song, a piece of your soul, wich made them so special. So, a professor in Cambridge coudnt possibly write better english than you :-)
I love the way you do it. Somehow you keep the "Window to Persia" open for us... for me at least... and dooset daram for this opportunity you give me
Laura XXX
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07-25-2007, 12:29 PM
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Why do you say that Tehran is the more far away to the east place u can imagine? :P xx
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Hola Ashoori, I was just jocking… but the truth is that those countries (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, ect) are really uknown for me. I have difficulties to think about them...
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Im looking for her version of To Toro Didam it sounds very up-tempo, I like that stuff...Most of her songs (from what Ive heard) are copied from Afghani songs hehe but I guess her songs are more for the new generation. Salam xx
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Hey Ashoori, I am not sure about what this up-tempo is… but I guess I know what you mean, and this is exactly what I like about this song too. Also some Iranian songs have this rhythem that apparently seems not to have rythem! :-) (if I was able to make myself clear).
Afghanistan is another great unknown country for me…
I also love Ta toro didam by Sattar but couldn’t find the Shabnami one either. If you find it, please upload it form me ☺
By the way Vanda, could you Persians understand Tajik easily? Is it just like farsi but with a different accent?
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Hey friends!
Has anyone heard of the band "Farez"?? I have a cousin that really likes their music
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Hi gole kocholo :-) I like Niloufar and Persianality just a bit… But I don’t know any other song…
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07-26-2007, 04:09 AM
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Hi Nadieh,
Thank you for the welcome! I just love that song, and especially because Kamyar is featured in it. I made a video to that music for my friend in Tehran.
I love Kamyar's voice! Have you seen/heard him do Aghebat? That's the next song I wan't to ask for. But I can't find any lyrics yet - at least not transliterated ones.
Poor Vanda... she does so much translation for us. What can we do for you Vanda? I can translate German if you need. Some of Afshin's songs have German, particularly when his brother Amir sings.
It seems all of us non-Iranians are interested in Persian music for different reasons. I'm trying to learn the language too. I don't have much time to learn so it's very difficult if you don't practice every day!
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salam sooz!
how are you today?
i love the song too, it is one of the first persian songs i heard! no, i havenīt seen or heard him in Aghebat.. but i will check it out!!
i read you have been listening for persian musis for 18 months now.. :-)) what is the reason you are interesed in persian music? if i may ask..? because you have lived in Isreal?
i hope this forum helps you with learning farsi..! there is also a website a lot of us use, itīs called easypersian.com.. do you already know it?
nadieh
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07-26-2007, 04:11 AM
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there is no difference between : toee and to hasti , it is like " she is " and " she's" in english.( an example)
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thank you for your explanation.. i already knew it means the same.. but when do you use ītoeeī and when do you use īto hastiī ? or doesnīt that matter?
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07-26-2007, 04:06 PM
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Nyaz
salam everybody!
i just registered to the forum and i don't know very much how it's working here...
I am looking for the translation of the very beautiful song of Fereidoun Foroughi called "Nyaz" (need)
I would be very thankful to anyone who can send me line to line translation.
I am totaly in love with parsi language and i am trying to learn it slowly-slowly
merci everyone
yanananda
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07-26-2007, 11:14 PM
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could someone please translate raha shayan "boro bye bye" for me?
boro bye bye
bye bye
boro bye bye
dige bye bye
vase hamishe bye bye
toro khaastan vaase man noon o aab nesmihe
bye bye
toro khaastan vaase man noon o aab nesmihe
bye bye
emrooz maale man nist dige donyaye ghashanget
boro bye bye
boro omram be hadar raft
paaye cheshmaaye ghashanget
to midooni nemikhastam
khande az labet jodaashe
tooye ghalbam jaaye eshghet
aaho nefrine to baashe
boro bye bye
dige bye bye
vase hamishe bye bye
toro khaastan vase man noon o aab nesmihe
bye bye
vaase cheshmat ye aalam taraane goftam
vaase eshghet ghazal aasheghane goftam
vali to arzeshe inhame eshgho nadashti
boro boro
goanahe man bood paa too zendegim gozashti
boro bye bye
dige bye bye
vase hamishe bye bye
toro khastan vase man noon o aab nesmihe
bye bye
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07-26-2007, 11:19 PM
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and by the way......hi everbody!
my name is nooran and i am new to this forum. i was reading the translations that a great number of you have done and i just wanted to say what a great job! i messaged Vanda with a song a while ago and she was trying to help me figure out who the song is by and possibly what it says.
well i found out the song i was asking about was by Alborz Mousapour and the song is called "Dar Be Dar." this is the link where i found the song:
www.myspace.com/hallkon
has anyone heard this song before or know where i could possibly get it from?
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07-27-2007, 05:50 AM
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salam sooz!
how are you today?
i love the song too, it is one of the first persian songs i heard! no, i havenīt seen or heard him in Aghebat.. but i will check it out!!
i read you have been listening for persian musis for 18 months now.. :-)) what is the reason you are interesed in persian music? if i may ask..? because you have lived in Isreal?
i hope this forum helps you with learning farsi..! there is also a website a lot of us use, itīs called easypersian.com.. do you already know it?
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Hi Nadieh,
Firstly, here's Aghebat on youtube:
YouTube - Aghebat
The song is not what I usually like in Persian music (I like dance music but not so much where the voices are electronicly altered), but the first time I heard this, I was hooked. I think Kamyar has one of the most beautiful voices. Actually I love the whole Black Cats album Scream of the Cats.
You asked how I got into Persian music. I've been all over the world in terms of music - South America, Greece, Lebanon, Israel, Morocco, Senegal, Germany, Turkey; Celtic music and now Persian music. The first song I ever heard was Adam Forush by Shadmehr Aghili. From there I was hooked. But I'm also interested in the culture, language and the food.
There only very few Iranians in my area, and they are very sweet, gentle people. One in particular is a friend, although he lives about half an hour away and works many hours, so I don't see him all that often.
From there I got more interested in everything Persian, and then went out of my way to meet others - especially on the Internet (because there are no others in my area).
So, none of it has anything to do with having lived in Israel. That was 30 years ago! But, I do love most Middle Eastern music and maybe that came from living there.
For the last 6-7 months I've been having an 'internet relationship' with a man in Tehran. Probably one of the sweetest, most tender hearted man I've had the pleasure to know (and handsome too). My friend doesn't like the same musid as I do - he seems to like music from 20 years ago. I've continuted to find and listen to Persian music (now over 300 songs) and got interested in learning the language, although that's been very very slow. I don't have the kind of time I'd like to devote to it.
I've tried my hand at several Persian dishes, cooking blindly because I don't know what they're supposed to taste like. We do have an Indian restaurant nearby which has 3-4 Persian dishes on the menu and I quite liked them, but because I don't like corriander (cilantro), many of the dishes are out for me. If my friend from Tehran ever comes to visit (I hope soon) then I'd love to cook some familiar dishes for him as well as our typical Australian fusion cooking and the European cooking I grew up on.
sooz
So that's the short version of why I'm interested in Persian music.
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07-27-2007, 10:15 AM
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Hello Nooran, Yanananda and Sooz. Welcome to the forum. Sorry I havent welcomed you earlier. I do it now! :-) Hope you enjoy here.
Ashoori, I DO PERFECTLY KNOW who DJ Illetz is :-) Juliana Jendo remix is my song of the morning this month (is has replaced Nazi joon and Dokhtar bandari) :-) is funny, because I remeber you every morning! :-)
I wonder where Masood is... :-( I also liked his translations....
Today I had to laugh... my work college, to whom I have recorded a CD with Iranian music, told me that she use to play this musics in the car over the weekend when going out with her firends, and they call it the "techno Kebab CD" :-)
So guys, I like to know that we are spreading our music (well, iranian music) :-)
Kiss to all
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07-28-2007, 06:29 AM
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I have just watched the movie "Gorg o mish"... Somehoow I have liked it, although is a bit sad and weird... and I havent understood much what is it about as it had not subtitles or anything... the only thing I have understood was:
bale
are
nadare
and when the girl asked: "Sareh, kojaee?" and the other one answered "inja!"...
That was all... ah! and of course Benyamin songs.
Vanda, where did you get this movie from?... I would like to download some other Iranian films.
Cheers
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07-28-2007, 10:55 PM
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Hola Ashoori, I was just jocking… but the truth is that those countries (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, ect) are really uknown for me. I have difficulties to think about them...
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Hola laura, fair enough I guess they arent so popular countries down here either..the only way i've ever heard of them are from the good old atlas :-)
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Hey Ashoori, I am not sure about what this up-tempo is… but I guess I know what you mean, and this is exactly what I like about this song too. Also some Iranian songs have this rhythem that apparently seems not to have rythem! :-) (if I was able to make myself clear).
Afghanistan is another great unknown country for me…
I also love Ta toro didam by Sattar but couldn’t find the Shabnami one either. If you find it, please upload it form me ☺
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LOL you've got to excuse me with my "music" talk because I forget sometime lol..up-tempo simply means faster and I happen to like fast songs (but it cant always top the sad Iranian songs)..
If I find Shabnami's version of the song, you'll be the first I send it to xx
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Ashoori, I DO PERFECTLY KNOW who DJ Illetz is :-) Juliana Jendo remix is my song of the morning this month (is has replaced Nazi joon and Dokhtar bandari) :-) is funny, because I remeber you every morning! :-)
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LOL fewwww *wipes the sweat off my forehead* haha..is this the Bandee song??
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07-29-2007, 01:39 PM
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hi hi hi guyssss.... I missed you a ton... I think after Nadieh It was my turn. my Internet service was quite crazy about a week.
Vandi was sooooo depressed :-( :-(
well well well... now I have to go and buy a gift for my dad cuz yesterday was Father's day in Iran and I haven't bought a gift for my sweet dady yet....
I will be back tomorrow and I'll read all messages and do all requests soon :-)
MUCH LOVE
Happy Vandi :-) :X :X :X
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07-29-2007, 10:01 PM
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evin farsi?
Hey paul... do you have agassi songs in farsi? because I have them on tape, and I'm trying to surprise my mom with a complete Agassi compilation in both Assyrian and Persian.
Let me know! <3 lol
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07-30-2007, 12:08 AM
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hey guys. =) just wondering, do any of you know any good websites that teach conversational persian?? let me know, thanks! =D
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07-30-2007, 09:02 AM
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Hey paul... do you have agassi songs in farsi? because I have them on tape, and I'm trying to surprise my mom with a complete Agassi compilation in both Assyrian and Persian.
Let me know! <3 lol
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heyyyy yeah i do..it used to be available to download on Ankawa.com but they took off his farsi songs..anyhow ive got malekta malekta (pariyaa pariyaa in farsi) and the farsi version of sparta which is beautiful...i think ive got another couple i gotta check them out for you and then upload 
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07-30-2007, 03:30 PM
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Eliin27, The other coast!! You can try easypersian.com. Someone here in this forum tried it but I havent. Another website is Before You Know It .
For conversational you can try the Pimmsleur CD's but it becomes limited as to what you can say.
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07-30-2007, 03:30 PM
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Hola laura, fair enough I guess they arent so popular countries down here either..the only way i've ever heard of them are from the good old atlas :-)
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Hola Ashoori, I believe they do not even appear in my atlas! :-) I am not so young!
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If I find Shabnami's version of the song, you'll be the first I send it to xx
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yes, please, do it.
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LOL fewwww *wipes the sweat off my forehead* haha..is this the Bandee song??
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I dont know, it is a song named "Mendo - Assirian. Dj Illezt Feat Juliana Jendo"
What means Bandee, bbtw...
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07-31-2007, 12:32 AM
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konnichi wa!
salam! everyone ok i'm not involved in this as much as i'd want to but i keep track of what you all talk about ^_^ and a while back someone wanted a farsi translation of sayings in that font i was wondering since i have no clue besides the basics in farsi that someone can help me with sweet quotes for my persian boyfriend i truly am head over heels for this guy he's wonderful and just breathtaking ^_^ what can i say sorry i tend to let myself get carried away but please anyone actually vanda if you'd be so kind please you seem to be the person everyone goes to  mersi! o yah and benyamin man that guy was the first artist i listened to and wow! from that moment on i was hooked....ebi and dariush .....phenomenal y que soy mexicana let me tell you haha  what a great world this can be que todos nos juntemos and cantemos con una sonrisa en cada cara 
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I dont know, it is a song named "Mendo - Assirian. Dj Illezt Feat Juliana Jendo"
What means Bandee, bbtw...
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Hola laura, sorry i got confused with another remix lol...im not sure what bandee means but i think its more or less like bandari (the iranian dance)..
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Hola laura, sorry i got confused with another remix lol...im not sure what bandee means but i think its more or less like bandari (the iranian dance)..
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where can I get this "Bandee" song then?... I am becoming fan of Dj Illezt ;-)
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I swear I didnt wanted to post it three times! :-DDDDDDD
Funny thing happened here! .... destiny maybe
But anyhow, I hope it is clear! lol
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Heeey you lovely people
Im so sorry for my late response! Quite buzzzzy with my school. Last year, have to finish a lot.. blegh! Thank you very much for helping me !!! better 3 the same answers than nothing
I think my boyfriend did not want to confuse me by saying he speaks farsi. Maybe because there is also more to find about farsi. But in the end he did confused me :P Cause, if i understand it correctly ; people from persia/iran speaks farsi and people from afghanistan darsi? Cause he was born in afghanistan. And when im making my own little poems for him in farsi with help from your translation of the farsi lyrics, he says to me that this is more iranian.
So i guess he speaks more darsi right ??! Sorry for all these questions guys! I like him very much hihi.. and i know he knows a bit of hindi (im a hindu) by watching bollywood movies so i wanna know a bit of his language as well.. hihi..
Thnx you all !!!!
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08-01-2007, 06:51 AM
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08-01-2007, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by noesje
Heeey you lovely people
Im so sorry for my late response! Quite buzzzzy with my school. Last year, have to finish a lot.. blegh! Thank you very much for helping me !!! better 3 the same answers than nothing
I think my boyfriend did not want to confuse me by saying he speaks farsi. Maybe because there is also more to find about farsi. But in the end he did confused me :P Cause, if i understand it correctly ; people from persia/iran speaks farsi and people from afghanistan darsi? Cause he was born in afghanistan. And when im making my own little poems for him in farsi with help from your translation of the farsi lyrics, he says to me that this is more iranian.
So i guess he speaks more darsi right ??! Sorry for all these questions guys! I like him very much hihi.. and i know he knows a bit of hindi (im a hindu) by watching bollywood movies so i wanna know a bit of his language as well.. hihi..
Thnx you all !!!!
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Hi Noesje,
please find quotation from Vanda posted on 27.03.07. I hope it will shed some light onto this matter :-)
Laura XXX
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Originally Posted by Vanda
hi dear simple girl. tnx for your comment but i dont think so.
do you understand farsi? i think afghans speak Dari and persians speak Farsi(farsi is version of Parsi which we speak now and it mixed with some arabic words and it becomed farsi cuz arab people hav'nt P in their language)
actually farsi is my native language but i understand dari and tajik hardly cuz it's totally different in pronounceing and verbs. our language(farsi) impressed with arabic but afghans and tajiks saved genuineness in their language. i did'nt know a lot about it but i searched:
-Farsi is the Arabicized form of Parsi from Pars, the name of the region where the language evolved. Pars is called Fars in Arabic which lacks the sound [p].
-Dari is the local name used for the Persian language in Afghanistan. There are several competing theories regarding the origin of the name.
-Tajik (Tajiki) is the local name used for Persian in Tajikistan.
-- Eastern Farsi (Dari) is the mother tongue of about 7.6 million people in Afghanistan, the Khorasan* Province of Iran, and in Pakistan (Ethnologue). It is the co-official language of Afghanistan, along with Pashto.
*khorasan is a province near the afghanistan border (Vanda)
--- Western Persian (Farsi) is spoken in Iran. Ethnologue lists 18 dialects of Western Persian. Standard Farsi is based on the variant spoken in and around Teheran, the capital of Iran.
---Eastern Persian (Dari) ) is spoken in Afghanistan. It also has a number of regional variants. Until recently, Afghanistan deferred to the Teheran variant as its standard.
--- Tajik is spoken in Tajikistan, a former Soviet republic in Central Asia.
and a good article : Afghanistan Online: Article (Pahlawi/Farsi/Dari)
from this link: Farsi is The Persian of Iran and Dari is the Persian spoken in Afghanistan.
and about your example, doostet daram/doostat daram is formal(bookly) mood but dooset daram is colloquial.
i will be happy to see your new comment
be happy for ever
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does bekhoda asheghetam mean " i swear to god i love you" if so can you simply just say it to a loved one ? just out of curiosity ^_^
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