Paleface - Helsinki Shangri-La (Finnish)

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  1. sankari said:

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    Hi there! I've translated this song and need someone to check it for me 'cause I always get something wrong. Also I can't understand a couple of phrases. Verb forms were my biggest problem in this. I'll really appreciate your help!
    I added some asterisks as well, they're mainly for myself but you might want to take a look at the first one.
    This was so much fun, btw

    Original text

    Kun hyvinvointivaltiota Helsingissä luodaan
    julkisivuduunarit ne Tallinnasta tuodaan
    hurahuhhahhei, mistä halvimmalla saadaan
    sillä niin me tehdään Helsingistä Shangri-La

    Hävitetään lepakot ja muutkin parasiitit
    eduskuntatalon eessä roihuu makasiinit
    halleluijahhei, huutaa nollatoleranssi
    juhlii vartiointiliikkeet ynnä FPS

    Yhteiskunnan yllä liehuu taantumuksen viiri
    turvakameroilla luodaan pelon ilmapiiri
    hurahuhhahhei, holhoava esivalta
    putkaan tarranliimajat ja talonvaltaajat

    Miksi kaikki tuntee Johanna maatalous-Tukiaisen
    niin kuin kolmen sepän kodittoman romanialaisen
    halleluijahhei, turhuuksien roviolle
    se on Seiska päivää, Idols ynnä MTV

    Pissiksillä luottokortit, valtavasti lainaa
    unholaan on vaipunut jo Veikko Hursti vainaa
    hurahuhhahhei, heitä pois ja osta uusi
    Visa, pikavippi, karhukirje, maksuhäiriö

    Ja keväisin ne kodittomat sulatellaan jäästä
    katkokävelylle mutta katkolle ei päästä
    halleluijah hei, Suomen päihdepolitiikka
    pamit, pervitiini, Subutex ja sunnuntai

    Kurtse ynnä Puonti sekä Pynnönen ja Piippo
    juolahtaakin mieleen Lahti, hemohes ja hiihto
    hurahuhhahhei, vinkki miehen viskipullo
    se on valeosto, vasikka ja KRP

    Maamme maahanmuuttopolitiikka kusee omaan nilkkaan
    jos Timo Soinin traumat takaa äänestyksen vilkkaan
    hurahuhhahhei, oikeistopopulistit
    Halme, Halla-Aho, Jörg Haider, Ku Klux Klan

    Sekos AD/HD-instituutin aivosähköposti
    kun Pekka-Eric Auvinen kakskakkosensa osti
    hurahuhhahhei, Holmlundin haulikoille
    lahtas Kauhajoen Matti toistakymmentä

    Kun hyvinvointivaltiota Helsingissä luodaan
    julkisivuduunarit ne Tallinnasta tuodaan
    hurahuhhahhei, mistä halvimmalla saadaan
    sillä niin me tehdään Helsingistä Shangri-La


    My translation

    When welfare state was created in Helsinki
    They imported fake manual workers from Tallin
    Hurahuhhahhei, where cheapest are gained from
    Because thus we make Shangri-La from Helsinki

    Bats* and other parasites are exterminated
    Storehouses flare in front of the House of Parliament
    Halleluijahhei, shout zero tolerance
    Security services and *FPS celebrate

    A banner of reaction flutters above the society
    The atmosphere of fear is created in security cameras
    Hurahuhhahhei, patronizing authorities
    Put (?) and squatters in jail

    Why does everyone know the agriculture Johanna Tukiainen
    As well as the three homeless Romanian blacksmiths
    Halleluijahhei, the pyre of vanity
    It’s *Seven days, Idols and MTV

    (?) credit cards, enormous loans
    The late *Veikko Hursti has already sunk into oblivion
    Hurahuhhahhei, throw away and buy a new one
    Visa, instant loan, collection letter, payment trouble

    And in spring the homeless flow on ice
    Walking with breaks but the breaks are not allowed
    Halleluijahhei, Finnish drug policy
    (Psychotropes, meth)-?, Subutex and Sunday

    *Kurtse and Puonti and Pynnönen and Piippo
    Lahti also springs to my mind, *Hemohes and skiing
    Hurahuhhahhei, the man’s whiskey bottle is a hint
    It’s a fake purchase, informer and National Bureau of Investigation

    Our country’s immigration policy (sucks)
    If *Timo Soini’s traumas guarantee active voting
    Hurahuhhahhei, real populists
    Halme, Halla-Aho, Jörg Haider, Ku Klux Klan

    Institute for ADHD nutters (brain email)-?
    As *Pekka-Eric Auvinen bought (?)
    Hurahuhhahhei, Holmlund shotguns
    (?)* Matti of Kauhajoki twelve

    When welfare state was created in Helsinki
    They imported fake manual workers from Tallin
    Hurahuhhahhei, where cheapest are gained from
    Because thus we make Shangri-La from Helsinki


    *I found a different translation for ”lepakko” (bat) as ”lesbian” does this suit here?
    *Finnish Protection Service
    *Seiska päivää - a crappy magazine that published pictures of Mr Lordi unmasked
    *a philanthropist, died 2005
    *some cops to do with drugs
    *some illegal drug in sports
    *a populist politician
    *the perpetrator of Jokela school shooting
    *another school shooting
    Poetry is what gets lost in translation - Robert Frost
     
  2. Eriika said:

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    Good work with the translation. Here are some further suggestions from a Finnish speaker. I copypasted, changed and added some lines + explanations.

    When welfare state is being created in Helsinki
    The construction site workers are brought from Tallinn
    Hurahuhhahhei, where you get the cheapest (labour)
    Because this is how Helsinki is made a Shangri-La

    Bats* and other parasites are exterminated
    Storehouses* flare/burn in front of the House of Parliament
    Halleluijahhei, shout zero tolerance
    Security services and *FPS celebrate

    A banner of regression flutters above the society
    The atmosphere of fear is created with security cameras
    Hurahuhhahhei, patronizing authorities
    Let's put (people who stick up stickers on public places) and squatters in jail

    Why does everyone know the agriculture supports / Johanna Tukiainen*
    As well as the homeless Romanian living near the statue of three blacksmiths
    Halleluijahhei, throw those to the bonfire of all the useless things
    It’s *Seiska, Idols and MTV

    Teenage girls* have credit cards and enormous loans
    The late *Veikko Hursti has already sunk into oblivion
    Hurahuhhahhei, throw away and buy a new one
    Visa, instant loan, collection letter, payment trouble

    And in spring we melt the ice around the homeless (as they have stayed out through the winter)
    (they are put out) walking with claudication but not given possibility to go to withdrawal clinic
    Halleluijahhei, Finnish drug policy
    (Diatse)Pams, Pervitin, Subutex and Sunday

    *Kurtse and Puonti and Pynnönen and Piippo
    which brings to my mind Lahti, *Hemohes and skiing
    Hurahuhhahhei, the ”winkman’s” (?) whiskey bottle
    It’s a fake purchase, informer and National Bureau of Investigation

    Our country’s immigration policy (sucks)
    If *Timo Soini’s traumas guarantee active voting
    Hurahuhhahhei, right wing populists
    Halme, Halla-Aho, Jörg Haider, Ku Klux Klan

    Institute for ADHD brain electricity / e-mail got crazy
    As *Pekka-Eric Auvinen bought .22 caliber handgun
    Hurahuhhahhei, for Holmlund shotguns
    Matti from Kauhajoki* executed more than ten


    * I found a different translation for ”lepakko” (bat) as ”lesbian” does this suit here? -> Yep, I think there's a reference to that
    * There's a reference to VR-storehouse that used to serve as a place for many kinds of arts, ecological cafe etc before it burned down. It was thought to be burned down on purpose, possibly a government conspiracy to get rid of something that really didn't fit to the image of Helsinki.
    * Finnish Protection Service
    * Johanna maatalousTukiainen = Johanna Tukiainen + maataloustuki (agricultural support). Basically these are two separate things been too much on the news.
    * Seiska päivää - a crappy magazine that published pictures of Mr Lordi unmasked + lots of other celebrity rumours and ****
    * Pissis = PissaLiisa= "Pee-Lisa" = Finnish term for a teenage girl who usually loves to wear a lot of make up, party clothes, drinks a lot of alcohol and is not ashamed of peeing in the public
    * a philanthropist, died 2005
    * some cops to do with drugs
    * some illegal drug in sports – there was a big scandal years ago in Lahti Olympics when some Finns were found to use Hemohes
    * a populist politician
    * the perpetrator of Jokela school shooting
    * another school shooting
     
  3. sankari said:

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    Thanks so much I couldn't wait for someone to review it.
    And for this additional information too.
    Poetry is what gets lost in translation - Robert Frost
     
  4. Zarobien said:

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    Lets get rid of Lepakko's and other parasites (1)
    Magazines are burning in front of the house of parlament (2)

    (1) Lepakko was the homeless night shelder that goverment took over and threw the homeless out. It caused death by freezing to a lot of them. They got back there later on; it was the logo of the factory that resempled a "bat" so they called it "Bat Cave". It was later abandoned and took over by yought and mucisians who shortened it back to "bat". So its not reference to lesbians in this one but reference to the building/place "Lepakko".
    http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepakko_%28rakennus%29

    (2) Magazines is the english word for Makasiinit. But I'd use Makasiinit since its a place name "VR Makasiinit". That was the place where the fire broke out accidentially. When police was doing the studies they ripped of more of the building than the fire damaged. The media made connection to all kinds of groups alltought there wasnt any. So they build this false thing and started spreading the panic and calling for "zero tolerance" policies... The two next lines are reference to this.
    http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR:n_makasiinit

    ... Theres allso reference of specific event in the first paragraph. "Julkisivuduunari" and "Tallin" was very high profile case in finnish building industry; basicly the city of helsinki evaided finnish taxes and used cheap estonian workforce. It was specific big job of the "front/out side" that is "julkisivu" in finnish.

    ... I think theres more but im too tired to search it. That might help with translation... Lepakko is Lepakko and Julkisivuduunari is Front side worker or smt. Not just any worker.
     
  5. sankari said:

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    Oh, thanks for clearing that up!
    I've heard of a club called Lepakko btw, so this must be it.
    Poetry is what gets lost in translation - Robert Frost
     
  6. dementikko said:

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    I'll have my stake here as well, as I think I get most of the references in the song

    When they plan the welfare state in Helsinki
    The facade workers are brought over from Tallinn [Estonia]
    Hurahuhhahhei, where you get the cheapest (labour)
    Because this is how Helsinki is made a Shangri-La

    (The Estonian workers are a lot cheaper and their use in constructions is widespread - as is corruption and tax evasion around it.)

    Get rid of Lepakkos and other parasites
    Warehouses ablaze in front of the House of Parliament
    Halleluijahhei, shouts the zero tolerance
    Security services and FPS celebrate are having a blast

    (Lepakko was a legendary originally squatted former alcoholic's night time residency which was taken down and Nokia offices built over it instead. It was a legendary place for underground bands and later for bands that had gained some name for themselves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepakko
    The railroad magazines were supposed to be mostly removed for a large concert venue to be built instead. During that time they had a lot of grassroot movement activity. A fire broke out destroying most of the buildings, even the parts that were planned to be saved. The public protests for saving the magazines were inefficient. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR_warehouses )

    A banner of regression flutters above the society
    CCTVs create the atmosphere of fear
    Hurahuhhahhei, patronizing authorities
    Jail the sticker stampers and squatters

    (The amount of CCTVs is now huge and some young people who were placing stickers in building walls were sentenced to prison, which created some public uproar because at the same time some companies that made advertisement by same means were fined for 5000 euros and clean-up costs)

    Why does everyone know the Johanna Tukiainen[1]
    Like the homeless Romanian living by the statue of three blacksmiths
    Halleluijahhei, to the bonfire of futility
    It’s Seiskapäivää, Idols and MTV

    ([1] is a word play between a B class celebrity and agricultural benefit which are combined together in the lyrics to form one word. Completely intranslatable. Seitsemän päivää is a low class tabloid magazine with articles revolving around these kind of minor celebrities.)

    Airhead teenage girls have credit cards and enormous loans
    The late Veikko Hursti has already sunk into oblivion
    Hurahuhhahhei, throw it away and buy a new one instead
    Visa, instant loan, collection letter, bankruptcy

    (Veikko Hursti, 1924-2005, was known for his work for the homeless and poor. Maksuhäiriö[merkintä] in the original refers to the credit score in Finland but doesn't translate well. Instant loans have created a lot of problems because they're available but the margin costs are big and some people have been forced to take another instant loan to pay the interests of the first loan.)

    And in the spring the homeless are defreezed
    for a claudication walk but no to withdrawal program
    Halleluijahhei, Finnish drug policy
    Valium, Pervitin, Subutex and Sunday

    (There's a word play, katkokävely refers to the duck-like walking of alcoholics and katko, katkaisuhoito, is a withdrawal program. The public health care has been criticized for attempting to solve problems only via distributing drugs and not solving the actual problems)

    Kurtze and Puonti and Pynnönen and Piippo
    which reminds me of Lahti, Hemohes and skiing
    Hurahuhhahhei, the informant's whiskey bottle
    It’s a fake purchase sting, a snitch and National Bureau of Investigation

    (The four names are the NBI officers who worked in a drug related sting operation and made their informant to try to purchase drugs from the seller. The result was a catastrophic failure which went all the way to the supreme court because this was completely unauthorized move. In Lahti the ski team got caught in a doping test causing public disgrace.)

    Our country’s immigration policy pees on it's own feet
    If traumas of Timo Soini’s get him a landslide victory
    Hurahuhhahhei, right wing populists
    Halme, Halla-aho, Jörg Haider, Ku Klux Klan

    (The conservative party True Finns - their leader being Timo Soini - had an anti-immigration wing which got a landslide victory in election. The persons mentioned on the last line; two first were in Finnish politics, 3rd was an Austrian politician. For persons, see
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Ha...litical_career
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jussi_Halla-aho
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jörg_Haider )

    ADHD institute's EEG-mail system went haywire
    As Pekka-Eric Auvinen bought hist .22 caliber pistol
    Hurahuhhahhei, for Holmlund's shotguns
    Matti from Kauhajoki slaughtered over ten

    (The school shooting incidents. Auvinen was on medication and the influence of it was speculated. The minister of interior affairs, Anne Holmlund, had turned down the stricter gun control over shotguns but pushed them for hand guns.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jokela_school_shooting
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kauhajoki_school_shooting )
     
  7. sankari said:

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    Thank you dementikko, I think it's the most useful post in this thread.
    Poetry is what gets lost in translation - Robert Frost