Romana :: Pas

Can anyone translate this to english? Hvala puno

Koliko sam gresna
zasluzila jesam
da srce mi slomis kao mali prst,

Ja grehe ne brojim
ni sebi ni drugom,
a sve dok postojim
nosit cu taj krst.

Sjene po zidu igraju
ko da za tebe pitaju
a tebe nema da mi pruzis utjehu.

REF. x2
Lutam gradom kao pas
vristim tvoje ime,
sta je ostalo od nas
proklete daljine,

Nemam kome nemam gdje
hladna kisa lije
sve je isto kao prije
al nista nije.


Za vazduh se borim,
koliko te volim
ni slutila nisam dok si bio tu,

A sad kad te nema
sve tvoje mi fali
i ko da me zali
sto sam jos na dnu.

Dear xXalanaXx,

enjoy!



Koliko sam gresna- As far as I am wrong
zasluzila jesam- I deserved
da srce mi slomis- that you break my heart
kao mali prst- like a little finger

Ja grehe ne brojim- Sins I don’t count
ni sebi, ni drugom- not mine nor others
a sve dok postojim- but as long I live
nosicu taj krst- I will carry this cross

Sjene po zidu igraju- Shadows are playing on the wall
k'o da za tebe pitaju- as if they would ask for you
a tebe nema- but you’re not there
da mi pruzis utjehu- to offer me consolation

Ref. 2x
Lutam gradom kao pas- I stray in town like a dog
vristim tvoje ime- screaming your name
sta je ostalo od nas- what is left of us
proklete daljine- cursed distance

Nemam kome, nemam gdje- I don’t have anyone, nowhere to go
hladna kisa lije- cold rain pours
sve je isto kao prije- everything is like before
al' nista nije- but nothing is

Za vazduh se borim- For air I pant
koliko te volim- how much I love you
ni slutila nisam- I didn’t even suppose
dok si bio tu- as you were there

A sad kad te nema- But now that you’re not here
sve tvoje mi fali- everythin about you I miss
i ko da me zali- and as if I complain
sto sam jos na dnu- that I am still on the ground

Opet ja, dok sam još ovde... još vrlo malo.
Dakle, učimo zajedno. Ti si sve bolja i bolja i sve hrabrije prevodiš, skidam kapu!

Samo sam primetila neke greščice, pa nije loše da ih spomenem. Nisam ni ja neki ekspert, al' ajde.

Koliko sam gresna- As far as I am wrong

grešna - sinful, wicked (iniquitous, peccant, peccable, unrighteous, ungodly...)
koliko sam grešna - how sinful am I

that you break my heart -> to break my heart

not mine nor others -> nor mine nor others

Nemam kome -> nemam kome otići - no one to go to (ali može i onako)

koliko te volim- how much I love you
ni slutila nisam- I didn’t even suppose
dok si bio tu- as you were there

~I couldn't even guess how much I love you while you were there (with me)

i ko da me žali -> Who will/could feel pity for me
and as if I complain - kao da se žalim (pod uslovom da se stvarno žali, jer da je hipotetično, bilo bi as if I comlained)

što sam još na dnu - that I am still on the ground -> ~ because I'm still at the bottom of my life (na primer)

Princess Marina,
Actually I think the way you first translated this line is better:

Originally Posted by PrincessMarina

zasluzila jesam- I deserved
da srce mi slomis- that you break my heart

Here she is saying exactly as you said "that you break my heart". She's saying she deserved to have her heart broken. It doesn't really work to say "I deserved to break my heart" (most naturally to me would be "I deserved for you to break my heart" but same meaning.)

ni sebi, ni drugom- not mine nor others

Also, this sounds better in English I think to say "not mine nor others" rather than "nor mine nor others" so again I would prefer your original translation.

Besides what Ina said already, the only other line that might be improved would be "za vazduh se borim" which I think works better as "I struggle/fight for air" (not so different from what you said, of course).

But these are just my opinions.

... actually I wanted to say " I struggle for air" but then I found on dict.leo.org that "to pant for air" a common collocation is, that's why.

Nonetheless it's quite hard choosing the best words when translating :S

Also, this sounds better in English I think to say "not mine nor others" rather than "nor mine nor others" so again I would prefer your original translation.

It's not about do we prefer it or not, "nor... nor" is grammatically correct.
neither...nor... /nor...nor/ not...nor...
There's very formal "not... nor" (in rapports), as I understood, and nor..nor.. is often found in songs and poems. But sometimes both could be found:

William Shakespeare -Not marble nor the gilded monuments, Sonnet 55
Not marble, nor the gilded monuments
Of princes, shall outlive this powerful rhyme;
But you shall shine more bright in these contènts
Than unswept stone, besmeared with sluttish time.
When wasteful war shall statues overturn,
And broils root out the work of masonry,
Nor Mars his sword nor war's quick fire shall burn
The living record of your memory.
'Gainst death and all-oblivious enmity
Shall you pace forth; your praise shall still find room

Ali postoji blaga razlika imeđu ova dva:

ni ti ni ja - nor you nor me
Not a flower nor a tree grew here. Niti drvo niti cvet je raslo ovde.


I prefer "to pant for air", it's also a quite common expression.
Cheers!

Originally Posted by ina

It's not about do we prefer it or not, "nor... nor" is grammatically correct.
neither...nor... /nor...nor/ not...nor...
There's very formal "not... nor" (in rapports), as I understood, and nor..nor.. is often found in songs and poems.

I prefer "to pant for air", it's also a quite common expression.
Cheers!

Honestly İna, living now in an English speaking country, İ haven't heard this "nor...nor..." construction in quite the way you used it, not in regular speech. But okay, İ'm sure you're right.

Cheers! And all the best in Austria, İ think it is.

Well, I read this in a dictionary.
Hvala za Austriju! Čujemo se!

Originally Posted by partizanka

Honestly İna, living now in an English speaking country, İ haven't heard this "nor...nor..." construction in quite the way you used it, not in regular speech...

Thank you all for the translation! and @partizanka, even though I'm only learning serbian, maybe "ni ti ni ja" would be best translated as "neither you or I" or "neither you nor I"

Originally Posted by xXalanaXx

Thank you all for the translation! and @partizanka, even though I'm only learning serbian, maybe "ni ti ni ja" would be best translated as "neither you or I" or "neither you nor I"

I agree, I think that's the best translation for it too. Keep going with your Serbian and soon you'll be helping translate here, vjeruj mi!