Yara - Bokra

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    Again; new song by Yara? Which album is it from? I give it a shot, again:

    بكرا قلبه عليِ يدقّ ويكشف شعوره ويردّ
    Bokra galbah 3aly yedegg, w yekshef sh3ourah w yeredd
    Tomorrow, his heart will beat for me, and he'll discover its poems and response
    ويتنازل عن غروره ويعرف إن الله احقّ
    W yetenazel 3an ghorourah w ye3ref enn allah a7egg
    And he will give up his pride and he will know, that I was allowed by God
    بكرا يندم ع اللي كان وينزف اشواق وحنان
    Bokra yendam 3a elly kan w yenzef ashwag w 7anan
    Tomorrow he will be sorry for what happened and and he will withdraw love and desire
    ويرجع يحبّ الايادي لو لعب فيه الزمان
    W yerja3 y7ebb el ayady law la3ab fih el zaman
    And he will come back and love my hands, if he tricked them before.

    حتّى لو دربه طويل حتّى لو صبري قليل
    7atta law darbah 6oweel, 7atta law 9abry geleel
    Even if his path is long, even if my patience is little
    انا حطّيته براسي ما اشيله مستحيل
    Ana 7a66eetah bi rasy ma asheelah mesta7el
    I put him on top of my head, I did not consider it impossible
    لو يعاند او يكابر ويقتل في قلبي المشاعر
    Law ya3aned aw ykabr w yagetl fi galby el mesha3r
    If he were stubborn or obeyed, or if he killed the poems in my heart
    اصبر انا واتحمل واتبعه عن طيب خاطر
    A9bar ana w at7ammel w atba3ah 3an 6eeb kha6r
    I am patient and endure it and follow him for his good sake

    ياما مشّاني وراه وياما تعّبني معه
    Ya ma meshshany warah w ya ma ta33abny ma3ah
    Oh! how after him I am disgraced, but oh! how I get tired with him
    كلّ لحظة وكلّ ساعة كنت احلم في لقاه
    Kell la76'ah w kell sa3ah, kent a7lam fi legah
    Every moment and every hour, I was dreaming of meeting him
    قدّ ماهوَّ عنيد قدّ ما شوقي يزيد
    Gadd ma howwa 3aneed, gadd ma shougy yezeed
    How stubborn he is, and how my love enlarges
    لازم يذوب في غرامي وهذا هو بيت القصيد
    Lazem yedhoub fi gharamy w hadha ho beit el ge9eed
    He needs to fall for my love and this here is the home of the poem
    Last edited by Ghaly; 04-14-2012 at 07:58 AM.
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    Here, asweeeeheeell. Help me and aaaall the other people amend this translation.
    Thank you. <3
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    Nice try and great job
    Well done

    بكرة قلبه لي يدق ويكشف شعوره ويرد
    Tomorrow, his heart will beat for me, and he'll show up his feelings and response
    ويتنازل عن غروره ويعرف إن الله حقّ
    W yetenazel 3an ghorourah w ye3ref enn allah 7egg
    And he will give up his pride and he will know, that God is true
    بكرا يندم ع اللي كان وينزف اشواق وحنان
    Bokra yendam 3a elly kan w yenzef ashwag w 7anan
    Tomorrow he will be sorry for what happened and and he will bleed passion and longing"He'll suffer because of longing and passion"
    ويرجع يحبّ الايادي لو لعب فيه الزمان
    W yerja3 y7ebb el ayady law la3ab fih el zaman
    He'll re-kiss hands no matter if circumstances changes

    حتّى لو دربه طويل حتّى لو صبري قليل
    7atta law darbah 6oweel, 7atta law 9abry geleel
    Even if his path is long, even if my patience is little
    انا حطّيته براسي ما اشيله مستحيل
    Ana 7a66eetah bi rasy ma asheelah mesta7el
    I put him in my ming, it's impossibel to change my ming

    لو يعاند او يكابر ويقتل في قلبي المشاعر
    Law ya3aned aw ykabr w yagetl fi galby el mesha3r
    If he were stubborn or obeyed, or if he kills feelings in my heart
    اصبر انا واتحمل واتبعه عن طيب خاطر
    A9bar ana w at7ammel w atba3ah 3an 6eeb kha6r
    I'll be patient and endure it and happily follow him

    ياما مشّاني وراه وياما تعّبني معه
    Ya ma meshshany warah w ya ma ta33abny ma3ah
    How long have he tired me and made me follow him
    كلّ لحظة وكلّ ساعة كنت احلم في لقاه
    Kell la76'ah w kell sa3ah, kent a7lam fi legah
    Every moment and every hour, I was dreaming of meeting him
    قدّ ماهوَّ عنيد قدّ ما شوقي يزيد
    Gadd ma howwa 3aneed, gadd ma shougy yezeed
    How stubborn he is, and how my love enlarges
    لازم يذوب في غرامي وهذا هو بيت القصيد
    Lazem yedhoub fi gharamy w hadha ho beit el ge9eed
    He will/ should fall in my love and this here is the home of the poem (the point)
    لا يَشْكُرُ الله مَنْ لا يَشْكُرُ النَّاس
    The One Who Doesn't Thank Others, Doesn't Thank God
     
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    So, as I understand the root of "شعر" can mean "hair", "poem" and "feeling"?
    Jesus Christ, good lord and his mother, Maria, the innocent; what the ****?
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    Both hair and poem have same writing but different pronounciation
    Hair:شعر Sha3r (having fatha over shin)
    Poem: شعر Shi3r (having kasra under shin)
    But for feeling مشاعر

    And yes they all have the same root of ش ع ر
    There might also many other words having the same root e.g. استشعار، شعيرة، شاعر، شعير
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    I really liked that you know the story of roots
    لا يَشْكُرُ الله مَنْ لا يَشْكُرُ النَّاس
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    Oh great. I read somewhere, that with 30,xxx words, Arabic is the language with the richest vocabulary.

    Yes, of course. I always study the linguistical history of my learning languages. And to know about "roots" seems essential for learning the Arabic language, now does it not?
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    Ofcourse if you intend to really and fully understand as well as know the language, it's important.

    Languages so how many languages do you know? If I may ask you...
    Good Luck
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    Turkish, German, English

    I am learning currently French, Spanish, Croatian, Arabic, a bit Armenian and soon German Sign Language.
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    Mashallah
    You're really brilliant.... And how old are you if I may ask?
    How long have you been learning each language, and may I ask you about the way you follow for learning?
    So many question I wrote down...

    Any way Good Luck with new language
    لا يَشْكُرُ الله مَنْ لا يَشْكُرُ النَّاس
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    Of course, you may ask. I turned 17 about a month ago.
    It's hard to tell, I am a native Turkish and have been born in Germany, and English is like a mother tongue to me; I do not know why.

    But, I can say from experience, that I need about 6 months to have embedded the rough grammar of a language and speak simple sentences, another 6 to have a solid reading and listening comprehension and the following months/years I spend on specific idioms.
    Arabic is, by far, the hardest language I have ever learned!

    I learn largely by listening to contemporary music of the particular language. Or, rather: I come to learn a language by the music I listen to. When I stumble into music I like in a foreign language, I am mostly always tempted to learn that language.
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    I see where you got this passion to learn languages
    Mashallah, you're still so young and know all these languages... "Knock the wood"... then I think you should work in sth related to international relationships, don't you think so?

    BUt really where do you find time to study school stuff
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    Arabic is, by far, the hardest language I have ever learned!
    Though you're still good, ofcourse you'll improve day by day... But honestly the hardest part is that we have so many dialects beside Fus7a or what it may be called Standard or Formal Arabic.

    Hmm music is really good way, but I believe there should be another techniques...
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    Of course, nothing is better than actually speaking to a native dude/gal in that specific language, but as Arabs are not very often found around here, I am fine with music. What other techniques would you recommend?

    I will, however, study linguistics and plan on being a linguist, doing researches and stuff.

    Oh, yes, the lovely dialects. They make the language so interesting! So many nuances; the same language yet sometimes mutually unintelligible! That gives me the thrills
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghaly
    Of course, nothing is better than actually speaking to a native dude/gal
    Really! Umm I go to a lady to learn Turkish, I believe I can understand generally, but when it's my turn to speak everything I learnt flies away! and I remain silently thinkign like a rock...

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    What other techniques would you recommend?
    Well I thought you'd recommed me some other techniques since you're the one with better history in learning languages. But for me,
    I may find that reading is good because it's true that I learn new stuff by listenig but reading might draw my attention to sth I haven't noticed before...
    either from teaching books or from the web, and for me I'm still using the teaching books (Tomer center book), also I listen to series thought sometimes when it comes to different dialect it's hard to follow them up.
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    Aw, but our dialects are not NEARLY as different as yours! ;D

    The talking will come with practise, do not worry



    Yes, movies are a GREAT way; I got fluent in English by watching them movies in the original language, which is English
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