Benyamin - Karbala

Hallo Vanda,

could you please translate, when you have the time, the song "Karbala" by Benyamin? Is Karbala a town in Iraq?!...

I have a couple of questions regarding Farsi:

1) What does it mean TORO? you use it all the time... Toro means BULL in Spanish ;-)
Is also funny that you are using BALE all the time (meaning YES if I am not wrong). We also use VALE all the time, menaing OK (literally "it-is-valid"), so every two words we say "vale, vale". Although it is written with "V" it is pronounced as a "B". We do not use the sound "V" in Spanish, although we keep it in the writing. So at the end is "BALE, BALE" , like you do! :-)

2) Also, is BI=without and BA= with?... if so, this is a mess, because in arabic BI=with! :-(

3) Is there any difference between GHALB and DEL? or is just that GHALB is from arabic origin?

4) What means NADARE?

Is funny

OK, that is all for today.

Thank you in adavnce,

Laura

I didnt mean to write "is funny" after "what means NADARE" sentence... :-)

Actually, it cant be funny, as I dont understand the meaning

of course I will do that for my dear Laura...
yes... karbala is a city in Iraq and since most of iranians are Shia' they love Karbala. Karbala remindes Hussein(3th Imam for shia') who died toward freedom and Yazid amputated his head and killed Imam Hussein's family(It's just that I know).. iraq is a holy country for iranians because some of shie' Imams' grave are there....

1- actually "toro" is colloquial (literary : to ra)
"to" means "you" and "ro" or "ra" ... it's just a word for relation between object and verb... it directs object...
for example: man toro doost daram / I love you
man toro mikham / I want you
o sib ro khord / he ate the apple
2- we use also "be - به" or "ba - با" which means "with"
but "bi - بي" means without.
3- you are right. there isn't any diffrence. "del" is farsi and "ghalb" is arabic
4- "nadare" means "It hasn't"
for example: in ketab ax nadare / this book hasn't picture
on (pesar) cheshm nadare / (that boy) he hasn't eye
on (dokhtar) pool nadare / (that girl) she hasn't money

* I know that I couldn't expalin in a good way so if there is any question plz ask .

oh I forgot something laura...
به and برای aslo means "to" or "for"


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Originally Posted by Vanda

oh I forgot something laura...
به and برای aslo means "to" or "for"


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Hey Vanda, how are you... I'm starting to learn farsi through this forum, it's making me understand the language.. I got the translation of "ya rab" from previous pages and thank you for translating "Gole Sangam".

take care

Dear Vanda,

your farsi lessons are wonderful and your examples magnificent, specially the one: THE BOY HASNT EYE. ;-p just kidding. Actually, I have understood everything. Nevertheless, there is something that I still cannot match on the sentence:
DONIA DIGE MESLE TO NADARE

DONIA=world
DIGE=???
MESLE=like
TO=you
NADARE=hasnt

What measn dige?...

Hasan, hi, I think I have never said welcome to you. Nice to have you here.

Ashoori,now I finally could download the music. Quite strange system... a page opens, a 3 letter code is given to you, you have to enter it in a box and click download, then wait 40 seconds and then click to download again... does it have any logic? :-/

Well, I have been listening to some of the musics you posted there and, for me assirian sounds pretty much like farsi but with an slightly different accent... or could it be that there were assirian people singing in farsi :-)
I also sa your webpage and your pic :-) You know, I thought it wasnt you the guy in your avatar but the cover of a CD (as some people do this). But no, it is you :-)
I was also reading about assirians. I didnt know you were not muslims and that most of you are now dispersed thorough the world. Is sad the degree of intolerance that exist in the world. Now I am starting to understand a bit more why is so important for you to know exactly where do you come from, and where do your parents come from, and the parents of your parents... and which ethnia do you belong to.

Well, have you all a nice evening.

Dige (literary: Digar/digari) means "another/another one" sometimes It means "anymore" or "no longer"
the world hasn't another one(anyone else) like you

hey Laura... how your skin is like this? sooooo beautifullllllll... what did you do girl? :-((( I looooove that color but unfortunately the sun just makes me red.
plz lend me your skin for just a week... pllllz :-(((

Regards
jealous vandi :-((

Karbala ka'beye eshghe --- Karbala is the Kaaba(1) of love
karbala ghalbe zamine --- Karbala is the earth's heart
arezoomon didane on goldaste haye nazanine --- seeing those nice minarets is our wish
hame non o abemoone --- that's everything for us(2)
khoneye arbabemoone --- there is our overlord's home
axe on zarihe mehraboon --- the image of that kind grave(3)
shaba to khabemoone --- is in our dream (all night)
Karbala ghashangtarin shahre khodast --- Karbala is the beautifulest city of God
ma ke nadidim --- we didn't see
faghat shenidim --- we just heard
hasrat keshidim --- we just envyed
har chi eshghe akharesh to karbalast --- the end of all loves is in Karbala
ma ke nadidim --- we didn't see
faghat shenidim --- we just heard
hasrat keshidim --- we just envyed
ma shenasname hamoon sadere az karbalast --- our indentity card have issued from Karbala
naghsheye karbala naghshe roye ghalbe mast --- map of The Karbala is on our hearts
naghshe mohre ya hussein roye pishonimoone --- the Hussein's name is on our brow
yerozi miyad akhar to khoonash --- someday he will be back (to his home)
nobate mehmonimoone --- then that's time for party (for us)


1- the God's house for muslims in KSA. here the Hussein's grave is a metaphor of Kaaba
2- "non o ab" literary means "bread and water"
3- "Zarih" is a golden room which embraces the grave
Hussein's Zarih http://www.ziaraat.com/images/husain13.jpg

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Download: http://persianone.com/Music/Irani/Be....com%20%5d.mp3

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Persian:

کربلا کعبه ی عشقه
کربلا قلب زمینه
آرزومون دیدنه اون گلدسته های نازنینه
همه نون و آبمونه
خونه ی اربابمونه
عکس اون ضریح مهربون
شبا تو خوابمونه
کربلا قشنگترین شهر خداست
ما که ندیدیم
فقط شنیدیم
حسرت کشیدیم
هر چی عشقه
آخرش تو کربلاس
ما که ندیدیم
فقط شنیدیم
حسرت کشیدیم
ما شناسنامه هامون صادره از کربلاس
نقشه کربلا نقش روی قلب ماست
نقش مهر یا حسین روی پیشونیمونه
یه روزی میاد آخر تو خونش
نوبت مهمونیمونه