ΠΟΛΕΙΣ ΤΟΥ ΚΑΛΟΚΑΙΡΙΟΥ-ΝΕΝΑ ΒΕΝΕΤΣΑΝΟΥ

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  1. Zahich's Avatar

    Zahich said:

    Post ΠΟΛΕΙΣ ΤΟΥ ΚΑΛΟΚΑΙΡΙΟΥ-ΝΕΝΑ ΒΕΝΕΤΣΑΝΟΥ

    Hello dear greek friends , please i need the english translation of this wonderful song , thanks in advance

    to listen to the song :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5FuB8IynBo

    lyrics

    Πόλεις του καλοκαιριού
    της λιακάδας και του νότου
    του καιρού αρχοντικά
    καταφύγια του ανθρώπου.

    Σαν το φως
    σας χαϊδεύει το σκοτάδι
    κι η ζωή σαν στρατός
    σας πονάει και σας αλλάζει.

    Αλεξάνδρεια, Βηρυτός
    Σαλονίκη, Καρχηδόνα
    εστεμμένη Δαμασκός
    με πορφύρα και κορώνα.

    Τραπεζούντα, Οδησσός
    ημισέληνος και άστρα
    κι ο παπούς ο Κομνηνός
    στης Ιεριχώς τα κάστρα.

    Στις δικές σας γειτονιές
    θά ‘ρθω και θα κατοικήσω
    με το γέλιο σας κρυφά
    τη ζωή μου θα κεντήσω.


    thanks for attention
     
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    Hello ! Here's the translation but I'm afraid it won't make much sense

    Cities of summer
    of sunshine and south
    mansions of the weather
    man's safe house

    Like the light
    the dark caresses you
    and life like army
    hurts you and changes you

    Alexandria, Beirut
    Saloniki, Cartagina
    Crowned Damask
    with crimson and crown

    Trabzon, Odessa
    crescent and stars
    and the grandfather Komninos
    in the Ierihon's castles

    In your neighbourhood
    I'll come and I'll dwell
    Secretly with your smile
    I will embroider my life
     
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    Amethystos said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmmy View Post
    Hello ! Here's the translation but I'm afraid it won't make much sense
    Translation is almost PERFECT!

    It does make some sense btw!
    "Gilgamesh, where are you hurrying to?
    You will never find that life for which you are looking.
    When the gods created man they allotted to him death,
    but life they retained in their own keeping"
     
  4. Zahich's Avatar

    Zahich said:

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    thank you so much for translating this song , I am grateful to you , It's one of my favorites ...
     
  5. kmmy's Avatar

    kmmy said:

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    @Zahich : You're welcome !

    @Amethystos: After I finished translating it, I was thinking that this song would've fit you better... your area of expertise haha
     
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    feuersteve said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amethystos View Post
    It does make some sense btw!
    Alexandria, Beirut
    Saloniki, Cartagina
    Crowned Damask
    with crimson and crown

    Trabzon, Odessa
    crescent and stars
    and the grandfather Komninos
    in the Ierihon's castles
    Ah, Amethystos, is a history, cultural lesson in order?

    The first paragraph, referring to the Roman empire?

    The second paragraph, referring to the Ottoman empire?
    Gott zur Ehr, dem nächsten zur Wehr

    What if they gave a fire and nobody came.
     
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    Amethystos said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmmy View Post
    @Amethystos: After I finished translating it, I was thinking that this song would've fit you better... your area of expertise haha
    You completely delivered the meaning of lyrics kmmy !

    The thing I wanted to add is that these lyrics do have some logical order
    and IF someone wanted to know more things he could post his/hers questions.


    Quote Originally Posted by feuersteve View Post
    Ah, Amethystos, is a history, cultural lesson in order?

    The first paragraph, referring to the Roman empire?

    The second paragraph, referring to the Ottoman empire?

    My friend feuersteve, yes it's all about history.
    More precisely, it's about history and aesthetics.
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    Song's clearly talking about the Byzantine Empire.


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    Byzantium's flag equals "crimson and crown", it's colors were actually goldish and something close to cherry.
    So Greeks know that when the "πορφύρα" color, is being used we're talking about Byzantium.
    There's a reference about the actual Byzantium color here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantium_(color)


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    as for the " and the grandfather Komninos
    in the Jericho's castles
    "

    You propably have heard about the "Great Schism"

    On 1st September 1057, Isaakios Komninos, became emperor by taking a vow to Michael Cærularius Patriarch of Constantinople.
    On that day death of Jesus of Navi, is being mentioned to churches.
    People grabbed the chance to resemble names of Isaakios -> Jesus of Navi and Michael Cærularius -> Archangel Michael.
    According to myth, Jesus of Navi gained the battle and entered Jericho with the help of Archangel Michael.
    So Isaakios entered Constantinople as emperor having Cærularius by his side.

    Isaakios Komninos was the first emperor which faced the "Great Schism", it was then when Europe firstly had TWO "Popes"
    That's why is being called as "Αυτοκράτορας των παπών" (Emperor of Popes).
    Παπούς (grandfather) in Greek sounds pretty close to Πάπας(Pope)
    And this is the reason why lyricist calls him "grandfather Komninos"

    So finally Komninos in the Jericho's castles is a DIRECT REFERENCE to Constantinople.
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    Song's talking about how time alters the "Byzantine aesthetics" to the above cities ... using some peculiar way!

    Ps. Phew! I guess that's all about it....
    "Gilgamesh, where are you hurrying to?
    You will never find that life for which you are looking.
    When the gods created man they allotted to him death,
    but life they retained in their own keeping"