Ourane

By the way, it was NOT a Greek movie, so I am not familiar with it ...

If you want I can find the "title" of it though ...

Oh! ... and by the way, in "arithmology", "9" is the ultimate representaion of the Heavens ...

... the expression in English ... "I am in cloud nine" ... !!! ...

You know, things like "that" are not by accident ...

Sorry, I was just curious... You don't need to make any work out of it!

Cloud number 9!

Kserw!!

Yes, I am sure YOU would, "omorfi" mou ...

... and my wishes to "feel" like that frequently in your life ...

"Ουρανέ, φίλε μακρινέ"

Is this some vocative form? I just have to ask, because all the grammar I knew seems to vanish from my head!!

Excellent notation!!!

Yes, it is EXACTLY that !!

The "vocative case" of nouns, especially "masculine", have the "ending" of "-ε" ... I am SO impressed YET again !!! ...

Oh, I'm happy to hear that!!

Isn't it kinda rare in Modern Greek?

Well, it IS in everyday life in terms of when "calling" someone ...



for example the name "Dimitris" becomes "Dimitri" (e.g. "Dimitri mou"), or "Antreas" becomes "Antrea" (e.g. "Antrea mou"), "Yorgos" becomes "Yorgo" ... but more commonly the "male ending" of "-ος" in the "vocative case" becomes "-ε" ...


It is not as common with "female" names, because their name do not (usually) have a consonant "ending" (usually the "s") ...

So, for example "Alexandra", remains "Alexandra" ...
Come to think of it, in "female" names you would NOT "change" the "ending" even if it ends with a consonant ...
Like "Artemis" would still remain "Artemis" ...
This is nowadays, ofcourse ....

The "vocative case" is VERY much a "poetic" case ... as it is expressing "calling" ... therefore "longing" , "yerning", "wishing" ...

So, yes ... still used today when "calling out" a name ... NOT nouns as such !!!

Like "Ω! Θεέ μου!!" ... "Oh" My God!" ...

"Poetry", however, is a "prayer" and therefore "vocative case" is very much used in and on everything ... "omorfi mou" ... ...

Giorgo, pou pas!! (I just couldnt help myself from thinking about Mazonakis..).

So you telling me that it is a vocative form?

hahahahaha

Didn't realise it was Mazonakis first name !!!! ... where's dya ?!? ,,, She would REALLY appreciate THIS conversation too ...

End, hello Panseline mou !!!!

AND hello Panseline mou ... sorry, heavy head tonight ..

THAT'S a "vocative case" BIG EXAMPLE !!!

"Η Πανσέληνος" is a "female" noun with the odd "masculine ending", which become "Panseline" in its "vocative case" ...


EXCELLENT STUFF !!!

I just started to think about aggele mou, also a vocative form...

I remember it was some forms in Ancient Greek too, that had the masculine ending but was a female noun.. Wagely... haha

Nai, it is. If Giorgos is directly addressed, it is.

Are we gonna turn this forum into an educational linguistics one or what?

You ARE quite a "treasure" , young lady ... !!!

Left a "message" in your "Alkinoos" thread too ...

I really DO NOT wish to go away from you, "omorfi mou kori" ...

... but my bed is "beckoning" me to it ...

Panseline mou, it was great to "see" you here again ...

By the way, the "Alkinoos" message was "addressed" to both you ...

Goodnight "angels of my nocturnal strolls" of music ...

See you soon, again in "Heaven" I hope

Hehe, yes indeed we are gonna turn this forum into an educational linguistics

Philadelphia you know that you allready have stayed here for a long time, and you said you were leaving... Thank you! You deserve your bed!

I will also leave very soon..

Originally Posted by omorfi

Giorgo, pou pas!! (I just couldnt help myself from thinking about Mazonakis..).

So you telling me that it is a vocative form?

What a nice surprise Omorfi

And here I am, Philadelphia, couldn't have missed such a conversation.
Please, note that I was not the one to bring the name up on this thread!LOL

Can I also add something about masculine nouns? They also lose ς in the accusative, too. "Είδα το Γιώργο"
No need to mention that the final ς is to be dropped in both name and surname, if that's the case.
If you address someone by his surname, it would be: kύριε Μαζωνάκη! (just an example!!!!) (kύριε-Mister! -vocative)