Άνω-κάτω -Γιώργος Μαζωνάκης

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  1. dya said:

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    That means that the other verb: προχώρησα would mean to leave the space, to go forward, to take a step in front, etc?

    παραχωρώ- to accept something/someone in the "space"
    προχωρώ- to outstep the "space"

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  2. azimut said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dya View Post
    That means that the other verb: προχώρησα would mean to leave the space, to go forward, to take a step in front, etc?

    παραχωρώ- to accept something/someone in the "space"
    προχωρώ- to outstep the "space"

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    Very good, re dya, re !!! ... ... ...


    "προ" ... is to mean "forward" ... and ... "that which is 'preceding' ..." ... ... ...
    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  3. dya said:

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    Ok, now I seem to swim again! I almost sank earlier!
     
  4. azimut said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dya View Post
    Ok, now I seem to swim again! I almost sank earlier!

    " ... σιγά-σιγά ... σιγά-σιγά ... σιγά-σιγά ... "


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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  5. dya said:

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    Lol!
     
  6. azimut said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimut View Post
    ... ...


    Such a "word" is ... "παρα-" ... ... ...

    - "παρά" ... to mean "in spite of", "but almost", "than" ...
    e.g. "παρ' ολίγο" ... "almost" or, ... with "time" ... "a while ago" ...


    - "πάρα" ... to mean "over", ... "excessiveness" ...
    e.g. "ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ" ...

    Do you see ?!? ... ... ...


    PLEASE, note the accents differ ... ... ...




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    The "παρά" example of "time" was the "wrong" one ... !!! ... ...

    I meant to give the "clock" example ... and didn't ... !!! ...

    "παρά" ... is used to denote the English ... "to" ...

    ... as in ... "ten to four" ... "τέσσερις παρά δέκα" ...


    OK ?!? ...



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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  7. dya said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by azimut View Post
    The "παρά" example of "time" was the "wrong" one ... !!! ... ...

    I meant to give the "clock" example ... and didn't ... !!! ...

    "παρά" ... is used to denote the English ... "to" ...

    ... as in ... "ten to four" ... "τέσσερις παρά δέκα" ...


    OK ?!? ...



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    That, I knew, that's one of the things that confused me! I knew that παρά πέντε means five minutes to...( remember Ζηλεύω? )
     
  8. azimut said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dya View Post
    That, I knew, that's one of the things that confused me! I knew that παρά πέντε means five minutes to...( remember Ζηλεύω? )
    ... ...

    Not sure I can "recall" what you are specifically "refering" to, by "remember Ζηλεύω" ... you mean, the "explication" of the "concept of time" ... ?!? ...



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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  9. dya said:

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    Ζηλεύω starts like this : "Πάει πάλι πέντε, παρά πέντε" We had a lesson on expressing time, together with this verse!
     
  10. azimut said:

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    ... ...

    the "next" thing is "βιώματα" ... ... ...


    The word ... "ο βίος" ... to mean "life" ... "the path of life" ... "the passage of life" ... ... ...

    Deriving from the ancient Greek "verb" in its "FUTURΕ tense" ... "βείομαι" ... "will be walking" ... ... ... "βαίνω" ... "to walk" ...


    So, ... "το βίωμα, τα βιώματα" ... to mean "the experience" BUT in regard to LIFE ... ... ... "Life's Experience / Life's Experiences" ... ... ...


    Do you see ?!? ...




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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  11. azimut said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dya View Post
    Ζηλεύω starts like this : "Πάει πάλι πέντε, παρά πέντε" We had a lesson on expressing time, together with this verse!

    ... ...

    Yes ! ... ... I do remember !!! ...




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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  12. dya said:

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    I went wild looking for this word!!! So that's what it means! Yes I understand!
     
  13. azimut said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dya View Post
    I went wild looking for this word!!! So that's what it means! Yes I understand!
    ... ...

    "wild" huh !!! ... ... I guess "some" Life Experiences ... are hard to "overcome" ... ... ... ... ...


    So, ... is there something else you would like to "inquire" ?!? ...



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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  14. dya said:

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    Yes, the rest of the song παρακαλώ! LOL!!!
    So far the first standza should look like this:

    Δίπλα σου δυο βήματα προχώρησα I take two steps towards you
    κι από την αρχή σού παραχώρησα- And from the start I granted to you
    πάνω στην καρδιά μου εξουσία.- rules upon my heart
    Ξέχασα παλιότερα βιώματα, I forget older life’s experiences
    σου ’δωσα μεγάλα δικαιώματα
    και ανυπολόγιστη αξία
    και ανυπολόγιστη αξία.

    What does ’δωσα come from? What is δικαιώματα(i can see it's a plural). As for ανυπολόγιστη αξία I found it to be:incalculable value?!
     
  15. dya said:

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    Oh,
    σου ’δωσα μεγάλα δικαιώματα- I gave you(like I invested you with) big(total) rights
    και ανυπολόγιστη αξία
    And great value

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  16. azimut said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dya View Post
    Oh,
    σου ’δωσα μεγάλα δικαιώματα- I gave you(like I invested you with) big(total) rights
    και ανυπολόγιστη αξία
    And great value

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    ... ...


    Mpravo re dya, re !!! ... EXCELLENT once again !!! ... !!! ... !!!




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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  17. azimut said:

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    [QUOTE=dya;249105]Oh,
    σου ’δωσα μεγάλα δικαιώματα- I gave you(like I invested you with) big(total) rights
    GAVE YOU ENORMOUS (AMOUNT OF) RIGHTS
    και ανυπολόγιστη αξία
    And great value
    AND UN-MEASURABLE VALUE


    Very well done, dya mou !!! ... ... ...



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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  18. dya said:

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    Ευχαριστώ!!
    Now the chorus:
    Άνω-κάτω τη ζωή μου Up-down, my life
    όταν θες εσύ την κάνεις. When you to want to do it?????
    Εύκολο για σένα είναι - It is easy for you
    άμα θες να με τρελάνεις. when you want to drive me crazy

    Ok, this with θες I know from those nightmare lyrics of Και να θες, and I know it means something like" you to want" . But I can't figure it out in this context....
     
  19. azimut said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dya View Post
    Yes, the rest of the song παρακαλώ! LOL!!!
    So far the first standza should look like this:

    Δίπλα σου δυο βήματα προχώρησα I take two steps towards you
    κι από την αρχή σού παραχώρησα- And from the start I granted to you
    πάνω στην καρδιά μου εξουσία.- rules upon my heart
    Ξέχασα παλιότερα βιώματα, I forget older life’s experiences
    σου ’δωσα μεγάλα δικαιώματα
    και ανυπολόγιστη αξία
    και ανυπολόγιστη αξία.

    What does ’δωσα come from? What is δικαιώματα(i can see it's a plural). As for ανυπολόγιστη αξία I found it to be:incalculable value?!

    By the way, ... just a "notation" ... check the "tenses" ... σιγά-σιγά though !!! ...



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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra
     
  20. azimut said:

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    Now the chorus:

    Άνω-κάτω τη ζωή μου Up-down, my life
    UPSIDE-DOWN MY LIFE
    όταν θες εσύ την κάνεις. When you to want to do it?????
    WHENEVER YOU WANT, YOU MAKE (=> MY LIFE UPSIDE-DOWN)
    Εύκολο για σένα είναι - It is easy for you
    IT "COMES" EASY TO YOU
    άμα θες να με τρελάνεις. when you want to drive me crazy
    WHEN YOU WANT IT, TO DRIVE ME CRAZY


    Would that "clarify" things for you ?!? ...



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    To be is to do - Plato
    To do is to be - Socrates
    Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra