Learning Bulgarian language

Originally Posted by PROPEL

i was told that още те обичам and обичам те още mean the same thing.
well literally/when you take it word by word it will mean "i love you still".

BUT- I still love you, AND I love you still = mean the same thing, it's just a different word order.

"Аз обичам те още" is incorrect, if you use "Аз" it has to be " аз още те обичам"
"още те обичам" and "обичам те още" are correct (note that you have no "Аз" here)
did you understand me

i dont use "az".
that's why i said "още те обичам and обичам те още mean the same thing"

but i didnt know that if you use "az obicham te oshte" is incorrect.
just wondering, why is it incorrect?

is it because you have "i i love" together? literally?

Аз обичам те още is incorrect because of the WORD ORDER it's accepted to say аз още те обичам

but where did you see " I I love" ? Translated word by word literally they mean
Аз обичам те още - I love you still
аз още те обичам - I still love you
where is this "i i love" witch you were talking about ?

well if you take the word meaning directly,
"az obicham te oshte"
Az=I
Obicham=I love
Te=You
Oshte=Still.

If you have "Az obicham...."
It would literally mean "I i love"

right? or am i just going insane?

"Obicham" is a diferent case, [обичам] is [love]
it's only like that in english. when you say it in bulgarian thete is no {I I love}becouse ot the "аз"! "az obicham" means "i love", not {i i love}
if you say "обичам да пия водка" in english it will be "I love drinking vodka", not {I I love drinking vodka}. note there is no "az"обичам да пия водка but in english we have "I love drinking vodka". no such thing as {I I love} in bulgarian.

az obi4am = i love ( not I I love)
obicham = i love
az oshte te obicham = i still love you
obicham te oshte= i still love you

OOOHHH.

so if you have AZ infront of OBICHAM it means=I LOVE
if you have OBICHAM it means = i love also right?

yes

ok good

haha

thanks for explaning it to me

you are welcome ))

You don't have 'i i love' when you say "az obicham te". You can say "az obicham" when you want to emphasize on AZ but it isn't necessary. "Az obicham te oshte" is really incorrect. It just doesn't sound bulgarian. That's a language peculiarity...
And when you want to say 'az te obicham' with no AZ you can't just say 'te obicham' because 'te' has no own accent and can't be at the beginning of the sentence.

you'll get him confused we cleared out what he can say and what he can't I'm bulgarian and even I got confused
"[ And when you want to say 'az te obicham' with no AZ you can't just say 'te obicham' because 'te' has no own accent and can't be at the beginning of the sentence.]"

az te obicham with no "az" will become "obicham te"

Originally Posted by eXtremnata

you'll get him confused we cleared out what he can say and what he can't I'm bulgarian and even I got confused
"[ And when you want to say 'az te obicham' with no AZ you can't just say 'te obicham' because 'te' has no own accent and can't be at the beginning of the sentence.]"

az te obicham with no "az" will become "obicham te"

hahah i know!
its not a good idea to get me confused.
i just got it cleared out, so dont mess it up!
hahah

if you get messed up we'll clear it out again don't worry

Originally Posted by eXtremnata

if you get messed up we'll clear it out again don't worry

hahah yeah.
it'll just take another 3 pages.

only 3 ? :P

Hi everyone! Hope this is the right place for such a question, and - more important - hope it hasn't been already answered! I searched a bit, but to no avail, so.....

I noticed that - more often than not - the letter Л is pronounced like W instead of L. Is there a rule to determine exactly WHEN Л is 'w' or 'l'? I guess it also depends on the area one comes from?!
thanks....

I can't think of a word in bulgarian in wich "л" is pronounsed like an other letter, give un example i think you have it wrong , or heard wrong..."л" is always "л"

well, I often heard 'blagodarya' sound more like 'bwagodarya'..... In that song by Sonia Nemska, 'ako ti se plache', it sounds more like 'ako ti se pWache'....

In Ilian's 'tarkiati', 'Хасковски дилари всики са тук' sounds like 'haskovski diLari vsi4ki....', however, my bulgarian friends often say 'diWari'.....

Anyway, I searched a bit, it turns out it's something called labiovelar approximant, or l-vocalization.... more info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgari...zed_consonants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-vocalization

I live in Haskovo city ... SLEAZY123 the letter "Л" always is "Л" (from our alphabet) but sometimes we pronounce it harder or softer. And here you will ask me - "When can I pronounce this letter harder and when softer ?". When "Л" is before a consonant letter/sound then you should pronounce it harder and when it is before a vowel letter/sound - you should pronounce it softer. You will learn yourself of that when you start speaking bulgarian language more often. I hope that you will understand it.