Things You Wish You Knew when You Started Learning Arabic

Originally Posted by Daydream

the 8 is also used for غ and ق
and the 9 has also been used for ص
also '9 for ض
and 7' for خ

So sometimes there is guesswork involved based on the words in front of you

emm.. that's what i'm facing now.. pure guessing?

Originally Posted by VivaPalestina

Hey just a random comment about this, I think the reason for that is because in arabic you have tashkeel, so each letter has three sounds, for instance for alf, aa, ee, oo, for ba, ba bi bo, for ta, ta ti to etc

So when you take a word like qatar, the first letter qaf is pronounced
qa
second letter 6a is pronounced
6a
third letter ra is pronounced
r

so you already have the vowels incoporated with the letters does that make sense?

yes it does make sense.. it's always with the 3 arabic letter alphabet fa3aLa, fa3elu, etc etc..
qof tho ro.. qotaro qotiru, etc.. for the arabians would not pose too much problem.. but for Asian like me, if you wrote QTR, I would understand it as a Quater

Glad it made sense to you!!

About Dreamy's post, dont worry, I always get confused between 8 and 9 The most important ones are 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7

3' is just a 3a with a dot and 7' is just a 7a with a dot (aka 5 lool)

8 changes depending on the country, so ignore that one, but 9 I guess is mostly sa like Dreamy said

Good luck!!

I suppose the easiest way is to start by learning the alphabet?

Originally Posted by VivaPalestina

Glad it made sense to you!!

About Dreamy's post, dont worry, I always get confused between 8 and 9 The most important ones are 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7

3' is just a 3a with a dot and 7' is just a 7a with a dot (aka 5 lool)

8 changes depending on the country, so ignore that one, but 9 I guess is mostly sa like Dreamy said

Good luck!!

I suppose the easiest way is to start by learning the alphabet?

you mean back to basic??

Haha you mean you still havent learnt them?

lol if you want to learn to speak and write fluently then you definitely need the basics.. if you're just wanting to learn to figure out the meanings to your favorite songs then I guess you can just pick up on things as you go along

I can read(with tajweed) and translate this when I was in primary school .. do i still need to go to the basics?

لَيۡلَةُ ٱلۡقَدۡرِ خَيۡرٌ۬ مِّنۡ أَلۡفِ شَہۡرٍ۬

Lailatul qoddri ghoirom min alfi shahr
night glory better than from 1000 months

it's 83 years madam..
I'm looking for that night this coming 10 days before eid

infact I starter early this year


I'm haft arab now.

LOL you fish, so do you know your letters?

Originally Posted by waja3k

I can read(with tajweed) and translate this when I was in primary school .. do i still need to go to the basics?

لَيۡلَةُ ٱلۡقَدۡرِ خَيۡرٌ۬ مِّنۡ أَلۡفِ شَہۡرٍ۬

Lailatul qoddri ghoirom min alfi shahr
night glory better than from 1000 months

it's 83 years madam..
I'm looking for that night this coming 10 days before eid

infact I starter early this year


I'm haft arab now.

Small correction:
Laylat elqadri khayron min alfi shahr

but it is a very good try, if you can read then you do know your letters, right?

Originally Posted by Daydream

Small correction:
Laylat elqadri khayron min alfi shahr

but it is a very good try, if you can read then you do know your letters, right?

Thanks Daydream,

meaning now I don't have to go thru the basic alphabet again.. Yay

Originally Posted by VivaPalestina

LOL you fish, so do you know your letters?

Dearest Viva,

You will be surprised that we have been using arabic alphabet since 1300 AD..
we even added extra alphabet till 40 instead 28, 300 millions muslim have been using this 40 alphabet 700yrs ago


don't believe this little guy below.. i will reveal it later.

Who's we?

...so then, you know the arabic alphabet and more!

Originally Posted by VivaPalestina

Who's we?

...so then, you know the arabic alphabet and more!

Arabs not included

actually 5, I exaggerated


چ ﭺ ﭼ ـﭽ ـﭻ ca 0686
ڠ ڠ ڠـ ـڠـ ـڠ nga 06A0
ڤ ﭪ ﭬ ـﭭ ـﭫ pa 06A4
ڽ ڽ پـ ـپـ ـڽ nya 06BD
ݢ ݢ ڬـ ـڬـ ـݢ ga 0762

Erm....thats the British flag right? we dont have them...

Originally Posted by VivaPalestina

Erm....thats the British flag right? we dont have them...

Oh! That flag?, I got it from my grandfather’s closet,
oh my gosh! I guess I’m british after all, ..
oh! no no.. ? why not? How about haft then.. no?
a quarter perhaps



ps
if you wish to know more about jawi writing..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawi_script

Haha poor viva!!!

چ ﭺ ﭼ ـﭽ ـﭻ ca
ڠ ڠ ڠـ ـڠـ ـڠ nga
ڤ ﭪ ﭬ ـﭭ ـﭫ pa
ڽ ڽ پـ ـپـ ـڽ nya
ݢ ݢ ڬـ ـڬـ ـݢ ga


Oh this one, is close to persian but plus minus Still trying to figure that one out yep..
Anyway what thread is this?
Ok, what else in Arabic that I am suppose to know?
Any Tricks?

That two years later you wish you didnt get frustrated and gave up...only to want to restart again and having forgot almost everything you learned.