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Gözlerime bakma hiç
kendini göremezsin
Yalvarıp* bin ah edip
sevmiştim diyemezsin
Ben sana bağlandım*
deliler gibi yalvardım*
Bakamam* gözlerine
kanamam* sözlerine
Yalvarma* sana dönemem* bir daha
Yalvarma seni sevemem* bir daha

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yalvarıp
bağlandım
yalvardım
bakamam
kanamam
yalvarma

Sağol

Gözlerime bakma hiç
never look in my eyes
kendini göremezsin
you couldn't see yourself
Yalvarıp* bin ah edip
begging thousands (of times?)
sevmiştim diyemezsin
you couldnt say i havent loved
Ben sana bağlandım*
i was devoted to you
deliler gibi yalvardım*
i was devoted like crazy
Bakamam* gözlerine
i couldnt look in your eyes
kanamam* sözlerine
i wont bleed to your words
Yalvarma* sana dönemem* bir daha
dont beg i wont return to you again
Yalvarma seni sevemem* bir daha
dont beg i wont love you again

I tried as for those words

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yalvarıp
bağlandım
yalvardım
bakamam
kanamam
yalvarma

Sağol ''

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blackfire
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your willingness to help out wherever needed.


(Yalvarıp* bin ah edip ) ??!!

Originally Posted by blackfire

Gözlerime bakma hiç
never look in my eyes
Don't even look into my eyes
kendini göremezsin
you couldn't see yourself
Yalvarıp* bin ah edip
begging thousands (of times?)
Begging, sighing a thousand times
sevmiştim diyemezsin
you couldnt say i havent loved
You cannot say "I had loved"
Ben sana bağlandım*
i was devoted to you
I chained myself to you
deliler gibi yalvardım*
i was devoted like crazy
I begged like crazy
Bakamam* gözlerine
i couldnt look in your eyes
I can't...
kanamam* sözlerine
i wont bleed to your words
I can't/won't fall for your words
Yalvarma* sana dönemem* bir daha
dont beg i wont return to you again
...I can't return...
Yalvarma seni sevemem* bir daha
dont beg i wont love you again
...I can't...

1) Yalvarıp: yalvarmak - to beg pitifully
+ verb binding suffix -ip (great vowel harmony) (the verb with the suffix is congruent with the other verb in tense, number and person):
"Gelip gidiyor - He comes and goes"*

2) Bağlandım: bağlanmak - to be tied to, to attach oneself to
+ Past tense suffix -di- (great vowel harmony)
+ -m (1st p. sg.)

3) yalvardım: See 1) and 2)

4) Bakamam: bakmak - to look
+ defective verb "to not be able to" (positive form: -bile-) derived from Proto-Turkic *e- "to be able to": -a- (small vowel harmony)
+ negation: -ma- (small vowel harmony)
+ -m (1st p. sg)

5) Kanamam: kanmak - to fall for sth., look at 3) for further info

6) Yalvarma: yalvarmak
+ negation -ma-
+ null-suffix, indicating imperative

7) Dönemem: dönmek - to return
+ defective verb "to not be able to" [See 4)]: -e- (small vowel harmony)
+ negation: -me- (small vowel harmony)
+ -m (1st p. sg.)

8) Sevemem: sevmek - to love, look at 7) for further info

* »Yalvarıp, bin ah edip, "Sevmiştim" diyemezsin« would be, with a dismissed -ip-suffix like this:
Yalvaramazsın, bin ah edemezsin, "Sevmiştim" diyemezsin.
But, as this is very tiresome, the -ip-suffix is used.

I hope, this is what you wanted us to do with the words?!

WOW =>

EXACTLY )

thank you!

>>>Yalvarıp* bin ah edip
Begging, sighing a thousand times

- ( bin ah edip) = ( sighing a thousand times)

-where is the 1000??
- what is <edip>??

Originally Posted by amnah

Yalvarıp* bin ah edip
Begging, sighing a thousand times

- ( bin ah edip) = ( sighing a thousand times)

-where is the 1000??
- what is <edip>??

« edip » is the verb « etmek » - "to do" - adjected with the -ip-suffix.
« ah » is translated to "sigh"
« bin » means "thousand"

« Bin ah edip » - Doing thousand(s of) sigh(s) and...

Thank you so much Ghaly

Finally clear !

I guess I'll NEVER understand the ( T>>D ) rule!

It is very easy, actually:

Turkish is a language, that devoices the voiced obstruents when they are in final position or next to another devoiced consonant:
-d becomes "-t" in spoken as well as (mostly) in written language
-g becomes "-k"
-z becomes "-s", etc.

These obstruents are revoiced again, when they are not in final position or not next to voiceless consonants, for example:
ağaç (tree) is a genuine Turkish word → root ağac-
ağaç - ağacım - ağacın
But: ağaçsız (without a tree)

And also, these final obstruents DO NOT change with the locative (-de) and the ablative (-den) case, but rather animate them to follow suit:
ağaç - ağaçtan (from the tree)

However not every devoiced obstruent turns to be voiced, when adjected to a vowel or another voiced consonant, because its root might be truly an unvoiced one:
"saat" derives from Arabic ساعةً (sa3a[tan]) → root = sa3a(t)-
saat - saatim - saatin

"jant" derives from French « jante » → root = jant-
jant - jantım - jantın

This rule also applies to verbs:

etmek → root = ed-

etmek, 'şimdiki zaman' (present tense) 1 person singular:
ed- + -i- + -yor- + -um → "ediyorum"

etmek, 'geçmiş zaman' (simple past) 1 person singular:
ed- + -di- + -m, however, is NOT "eddim".

Howso? Because, as mentioned before, unvoiced final obstruents make changeable suffixes (like the past suffix '-di-' [Great Vowel Harmony]) devoice their obstruent, too. And, if you read carefully, you will come to an understanding that:

ed- + -di- + -m will form "ettim" (ed- → et-, -di- → -ti-)

All clear?!

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aha, crystal clear

once again, Thank you.