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Old 05-02-2008, 12:01 PM   #241 (permalink)
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Hello !

Can any of you give me as many examples u can for the -im,-in and ım, -ın suffixes?
I just can't find 'the logic' in them... Or is it all a matter of learning as they are ? There is no understanding to them ?
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:34 AM   #242 (permalink)
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(ı/i/u/ü)m

1. ı/i/u/ü are used as auxiliary letters to separate two consonants.

1a. means my when added to a noun:
baş-ı-m = başım: my head

1b. indicates 1st person singular when added to a verb:
geldi-m: i came

1c. indicates 1st person singular when added to a noun/adjective if it's the predicate of the sentence (which is called a noun sentence):
(ben) uzun-u-m = uzunum: i'm tall
(ben) öğretmen-i-m = öğretmenim: i'm a teacher

1d. makes nouns from verbs:

seçmek: to choose, to elect -> seçim: choice, election
bakmak: to look -> bakım: maintenance
yazmak: to write -> yazım: orthography, spelling (also, my writing)

2. an ı, i, u or ü is put if the last letter of the word is a consonant, dropped if it's a vowel:
put:
ev-i-m = evim: my house;
duvar-ı-m = duvarım: my wall;
yol-u-m = yolum: my way

drop:
araba-m = arabam: my car;
kapı-m = kapım: my door
keçi-m = keçim: my goat

exceptions:

su-y-u-m = suyum: my water (the original form of the word in the far distant past was SUW but it's been long lost, so don't say sum)

ne-y-i-m = neyim: my what? (regular forms nem, nen etc. are also used, as in the folk song de get bayburt de get sende nem kaldı)

2a. -ı- is used when the last vowel in the word is a or ı:
hayAt -> hayatım: my life
krAl -> kralım: my king (also, i'm the king)

katIr -> katırım: my mule (also, i'm a mule)
yakIn -> yakınım: my close (ie, my relative, also, i'm close)

exceptions:

words ending in -al sometimes take -i- as in meralim: my meral (female name), kemalim: my kemal (male name).

saat -> saatim: my watch or clock


2b. -i- is used when the last vowel in the word is e or i:
kedEr -> kederim: my sorrow
kemEr -> kemerim: my belt

sinİr -> sinirim: my nerve
vezİr -> vezirim: my queen (in chess), my vizier (also, i'm a vizier)

2c. -u- is used when the last vowel in the word is o or u:
tampOn -> tamponum: my bumper (meaning the bumper of my car)
kupOn -> kuponum: my coupon

gurUr -> gururum: my pride
okUr -> okurum: my reader (also, i read)

2d. -ü- is used when the last vowel in the word is ö or ü:
şofÖr -> şoförüm: my driver (also, i'm a driver)
planÖr -> planörüm: my glider

dönÜş -> dönüşüm: my return (also, transformation, from dönüşmek: to transform, to turn into)
görÜş -> görüşüm: my view, my opinion (also, that i see/saw, as in bu onu son görüşümdü: that was the last time that i saw her)

the same rules (except for 1d) apply to (ı/i/u/ü)n, meaning your/you're or the 2nd person singular.

Last edited by ilkin : 05-04-2008 at 08:08 AM. Reason: typo correction
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:31 AM   #243 (permalink)
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Wooooow ! Çok teşekkür ederim ilkin
Sen çok tatlısım

Can you also give me some exemples (not so many) for gender lütfen?
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Old 05-04-2008, 07:03 AM   #244 (permalink)
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slm everyone
i was asked a question
and theres a word that i dont understand in it

~ne zaman elazığa gidecen?~
so in this ,
does anyone know what elazığa means?


cok cok tesekur ederim
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:05 AM   #245 (permalink)
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Wooooow ! Çok teşekkür ederim ilkin
Sen çok tatlısım
rica ederim. o senin tatlılığın

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Can you also give me some exemples (not so many) for gender lütfen?
turkish doesn't distinguish between genders. did you mean something else?
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:14 AM   #246 (permalink)
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~ne zaman elazığa gidecen?~
so in this ,
does anyone know what elazığa means?
elazığ is a city east of turkey. elazığ'a = to elazığ.

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cok cok tessekur ederim ilkin
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rica ederim. o senin tatlılığın



turkish doesn't distinguish between genders. did you mean something else?

Hooo great ..Another reason added on my List - Why I LOVE turkish language
Thank you Ilkin

Will there be more grammar sections posted here ? Or all that had to be said was done already ?
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Hooo great ..Another reason added on my List - Why I LOVE turkish language
Thank you Ilkin

Will there be more grammar sections posted here ? Or all that had to be said was done already ?
rica ederim

there is a couple of good news about learning turkish and this was one of them (the other one is that it's read as it's written; but, alas, not always written as it's spoken.)

there were many grammatical points explained before in this thread or elsewhere, but don't worry, i don't think anybody would be tired of explaining once (or twice) more if you ask. you yourself see they're all craving to help.

... and i love all that love to help.
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rica ederim

there is a couple of good news about learning turkish and this was one of them (the other one is that it's read as it's written; but, alas, not always written as it's spoken.)

there were many grammatical points explained before in this thread or elsewhere, but don't worry, i don't think anybody would be tired of explaining once (or twice) more if you ask. you yourself see they're all craving to help.

... and i love all that love to help.
Tamam ! Çok Çok Teşekkür ederim tekrar... I still have many problems with word order ..But I'll get used to them soon Yes, It's very easy for me to read in turkish because it's pronunciation is very very simmilar to my mother language (which is hungarian) and also has sounds like those in romanian So I feel myself lucky !
Thanks for everything u do,and for others help too. I don't have otehr questions at the moment..but I will know where to turn to when I'll have

Dikkat et !
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Hi guys
can you tell me what the suffix "ken" does and how can i add it to a verb?
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hi all ive just found a website where u can download something to your computer to help learn turkish from english and it has english to turkish quizzes to help you learn the lanuage and wordsearches and stuff thought someone might be interest so heres the link:

http://www.transparent.com/languagep...h/overview.htm
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Hi guys
can you tell me what the suffix "ken" does and how can i add it to a verb?
yaparken>while doing
giderken>while going...eve giderken seni gördüm>l saw you while going to home
you mean this?
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