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[Oceanpixie]

Please..could you translate this song in English?


Güzel aşık cevrimizi
Çekemezsin demedim mi?
Bu bir rıza lokmasıdır
Yiyemezsin demedim mi?


Yemeyenler kalır naçar
Gözlerinden kanlar saçar
Bu bir demdir gelir geçer
Duyamazsın demedim mi?

Aşıklar harabat olur
Hakkın katında kutlu olur
Muhabbet baldan tatlı olur
Doyamazsın demedim mi?

Çıkalım meydan yerine
Erelim Ali sırrına
Can-ü başı Hakk yoluna
Koyamazsın demedim mi?

Bu dervişlik bir dilektir
Bilene büyük devlettir
Yensiz yakasız gömlektir
Giyemezsin demedim mi?


***thanks

[JustMe]

owww its too complicated. and its full of meaning and really hard to understand correctly... even in turkish
i hope someone can translate it. good luck

[Oceanpixie]

Thank you for answering...Yes it is really difficult...but I didn't know that even for Turkish it was that hard...Anyway, I hope that someone would try

Until now I was able to find only the first lines...

Fellow dervish, you couldn’t handle
Our difficulties didn’t I tell you?
Here is sweet morsel of approval
You can’t eat it, didn’t I tell you?

[ilkin]

beautiful lover, didn't i tell you
that you couldn't bear our torment?
this is a morsel of consent
didn't i tell you that you couldn't eat it?

those who don't eat it remain helpless
blood spatters from their eyes
this is a moment, it comes and passes
didn't i tell you that you couldn't sense it?

lovers are like ruins
they are blessed in the presence of (god) the truth
love/affection/chitchat is sweeter than honey
didn't i tell you you couldn't be full up?

let's go out to the meydan
let's attain the secret of Ali
didn't i tell you that you couldn't commit
your soul, your head to the way of (god) the truth?

this dervishhood is a wish
it is a great wealth for those who know
it is a shirt without sleeves and collars
didn't i tell you that you couldn't don it?

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this is an alevi poem (nefes or breath) and it has many words or pharases that have deeper levels of meaning other than their plain meanings, which i won't venture to explain. the reader should bear in mind that there is much more to it than this rough translation gives away.

[Oceanpixie]

Originally Posted by ilkin

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this is an alevi poem (nefes or breath) and it has many words or pharases that have deeper levels of meaning other than their plain meanings, which i won't venture to explain. the reader should bear in mind that there is much more to it than this rough translation gives away.

Thank you by hearth for this translation
Indeed is really difficult and about the meaning, I started to read something about nefes and songs from the Asik..
Nor the grammatical construction nor the meaning are easy but is worth to read them and listen to them
Thanks again

[ilkin]

you're welcome