General chit chat off-topic discussion

[cameronparkhurst]

i wanted spain to win

[tigress_tim]

Me tooooo

[maldiviana]

i wanted to say so many things to him... wanted to make him know how am really feeling by words as much as i could express in them...sometimes end up "askimmmmm i dont understand" and i just go... oooooooooooh mummyyyyy!!!!! hehehe... his very little english and my not at all turkish speaks... anyhow.. have been the most amazing thing...becos this have made me want to learn another language...just for him plus...anyways..if i learn turkish mayb i will want to continue learnin more...... my weak point.... aaaaaaaaaaaargh!!! i just dont know to speak turkish...!!!
but... my will to learn or my will to atleast be able to say sumthin to him... made me find this site... and yes... ta daaaa!!! i have been able to say things wich i wated to say long time back...!!! mwah mwah!! to everyone in this site... (remeber these kisses are for u cheeks lol)

[cameronparkhurst]

yea turkish is hard- but 90 million speak this language -have you been to turkey? i go back in 4 weeks--istanbul and konya mostly but i have been to other cities. you know--day here--day there...i have 2 weddings to go to...i am very excited...i am getting good frequent flier miles though

[tigress_tim]

Originally Posted by maldiviana

....this have made me want to learn another language...just for him ....

This is one of the most strongest reasons a person can have to learn a language... ..LOVE

[OKREDHOT]

Can someone translate me the oath of MHP (nationalist party) ?

Allah'a, Kur'an'a, vatana, bayraga, millete ve silaha yemin olsun !
Sehitlerim, Gazilerim emin olsun !
Ülkücü Türk Gençligi olarak,
komünizm'e, kapitalizm'e, fasizm'e ve her türlü emperyalizm'e karsi mücadelemiz sürecektir.
Mücadelemiz, son nefer, son nefes, son damla kan'a kadardir !
Mücadelemiz, milliyetci Türkiye'ye, Turan'a kadardir !
Düsmeyecegiz, Yilmayacagiz, Yikilmayacagiz !
Basaracagiz, Basaracagiz, Basaracagiz !
ALLAH TÜRK'Ü KORUSUN ve YÜCELTSIN

[leaden]

Allah'a, Kur'an'a, vatana, bayraga, millete ve silaha yemin olsun ! / on the God, on Kur'an, on the motherland, on the flag and on the weapon be oath !
Sehitlerim, Gazilerim emin olsun ! / my martyrs, war veterans be sure
Ülkücü Türk Gençligi olarak, / as Idalist Turkish Younth
komünizm'e, kapitalizm'e, fasizm'e ve her türlü emperyalizm'e karsi mücadelemiz sürecektir. / our fight will go on against the communism, the capitalism, the fascism and against all kind of imperialism
Mücadelemiz, son nefer, son nefes, son damla kan'a kadardir ! / our fight will go on till last time, last breath, and of our last blood drop
Mücadelemiz, milliyetci Türkiye'ye, Turan'a kadardir ! / our fight will go on till nationalist Turkey, till Turan
Düsmeyecegiz, Yilmayacagiz, Yikilmayacagiz ! / we will not fall and dread, dread
Basaracagiz, Basaracagiz, Basaracagiz ! / we will achieve, we will achieve, we will achieve
ALLAH TÜRK'Ü KORUSUN ve YÜCELTSIN / Allah (God) protect the Turk and exalt the Turk

[cameronparkhurst]

wow---that's pretty bad--umm capitalism makes the world go round--it allows people to open their own businesses--and be makers of their own lives-a few nationalists just bombed my consulate in istanbul today killing 6--OF TURKS NOT AMERICANS...they killed their own people (i am sure by accident)--in the name of what????

[OKREDHOT]

yeah but i'm watching a lot of documentaries in turkey, it seems that nationalism is very strong in turkey, especially among youth (grey wolves)
it's sad

[cameronparkhurst]

okred where are you from? i think anytime people use violence is bad...that 1 act may hault my trip to turkey august 5th

[leaden]

i was in ŞIRNAK for my mission of military and i can say that our nationalism against some power who want to destroy Turkey and against the terrorism. this even is extension part of terrorism from the south east of Turkey to west of Turkey, they always want to stir up trouple.

[cameronparkhurst]

and they certainly did--its really unwise to bit the hand that feeds you-especially if the hand is the americans---can you tell me what this means? lanet olsun bu içimdeki insan sevgisine! lililililililililililili

[leaden]

i am try to say that terror is out of city at first but now we can see some action in the big city center and some important places. i don't say this country is enemy or this country is friend. i just say what i am against the terrorism and i don't like to see the guiltless people dieing on tv like today's event

[cameronparkhurst]

leaden -where are you from?

[OKREDHOT]

i live in belgium

how does the turkish people look at kurdish people ? are they brothers or enemies ?

[cameronparkhurst]

enemies

[OKREDHOT]

ok

i have another question about turkish culture : do people in turkey go often to the mosque ? are they very religious ? do most of people pray 5 time a day ? especially i want to know about the youth : are they religious ? do they drink alcohol ? and so on can you explain how is islam in turkey today

[cameronparkhurst]

when i am in turkey---i did not know any young people to go and pray..its weird they claim to be religious but they are not..its like they pick and choose..they all drink...smoke...all the guys have sex but most girls are virgins (so they say)...but i find THAT impossible..unless all these guy have sex with hookers or foreigners. but the guys want to marry virgins (they are such hypocrates)--i am american and not muslim and so my view is from what i see...

[OKREDHOT]

it's interessant, can we say then that turkish youth is becoming more european, western than oriental ?

[cameronparkhurst]

hhhmmmm i dont think you can say that...its really complicated

[cameronparkhurst]

and i would never call them oriental (1. its not pc...2. oriental refers to things like vases, rugs not people 3. we say asian)

as a culture i know they have asian ties but i dont see it..i would not consider them mid east or european either...i would call them Muslim Mediterranean . have you ever been to turkey?

[leaden]

Originally Posted by cameronparkhurst

leaden -where are you from?

from turkey

[OKREDHOT]

i'm going to turkey this summer, i don't know how turks will look at me if i'm trying to speak turkish (i am learning, i'm beginner). will they laugh at me, hate me or help me ? it's the first time i go in turkey

[cameronparkhurst]

hehehehe i know turkey--i meant the city

[leaden]

bursa

[cameronparkhurst]

okay--been there

[Milena]

Originally Posted by OKREDHOT

i'm going to turkey this summer, i don't know how turks will look at me if i'm trying to speak turkish (i am learning, i'm beginner). will they laugh at me, hate me or help me ? it's the first time i go in turkey

Hate you?Not at all.

We love when foreigners try to speak Turkish.

[OKREDHOT]

Cool

What turkish girls think about foreigners ? I mean are they most of the time open-minded or they wouldn't date a foreign man ? Because I like also a lot turkish girls, that's another reason why I want to learn turkish.