Listen to these two songs:

Το άγαλμα - 1969
Στίχοι: Λευτέρης Παπαδόπουλος
Μουσική: Μίμης Πλέσσας
http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...s&song_id=1425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg_AY9Nx1b4 (Πουλόπουλος)


Ήρθαν τόσα βάσανα - 1972
Στίχοι: Άκος Δασκαλόπουλος
Μουσική: Μίμης Πλέσσας
http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...&song_id=11752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjTcsKBR5sI (Πουλόπουλος)

They're not the same, of course, but they're very similar in certain respects - it's almost like the later song "echoes" certain elements of the melody and accompaniment in the earlier song.

So I wonder whether Πλέσσας wrote Ήρθαν τόσα βάσανα for Πουλόπουλος in order to see if they could recreate their original success with Το άγαλμα.

What do you think? Do you think Πλέσσας deliberately wrote Ήρθαν τόσα βάσανα to sound similar to Το άγαλμα ?

Or did it just turn out that way because the same composer will often write the same way in different songs?

Originally Posted by David Halitsky

What do you think? Do you think Πλέσσας deliberately wrote Ήρθαν τόσα βάσανα to sound similar to Το άγαλμα ?

I believe that for some reason must you are right. But what does it matter?

It doesn't matter at all - they're both great songs. I was just curious to know what someone like you (with your much greater experience) would think?

In US rock music, it was always very common for a group to bring out a second song that sounded like an earlier song because the first song was such a hit.

So, like you said, it doesn't matter at all.

Meanwhile, please don't forget to let me know if you are OK with my last translation of Ψεύτρα κοινωνία, last post in this thread:

http://www.allthelyrics.com/forum/sh...=157002&page=5

If you read the post right before the last one, you'll see why I'm translating certain things a certain way.

Thanks as always.

Wow! Here's an AMAZING case of a composer writing the same song over again with different words:

Αγωνία - 1968
Στίχοι: Χαράλαμπος Βασιλειάδης
Μουσική: Γιώργος Ζαμπέτας
http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...s&song_id=2439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7BwkN9Hpes

Παιδί της νύχτας - 1972
Στίχοι: Νίκος Μπακογιάννης
Μουσική: Γιώργος Ζαμπέτας
http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...&song_id=11848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUTNBCkYgA4

Listen to the melody and arrangement for the two choruses:

From Αγωνία

Αγωνία με λαχτάρα να σε νοιάζομαι
αγωνία δυστυχώς να σε μοιράζομαι

From Παιδί της νύχτας

Παιδί της νύχτας
πού `χεις μέσα σου καρδιά
μοιάζεις πουλί
που `χει χαθεί μες στον νοτιά


I wonder if he was aware of what he was doing, or just did it unconsciously ...

Well, like Duffy says - what difference does it make? They're both great songs and Zambetas is among Greece's greats ...

Ο Σαλονικιός - 1985
Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVVcnB51Quk

Έχασες για πάντα τον αλήτη σου - 1998
Χρήστος Νικολόπουλος
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT0IBtIhLwQ

The songs aren't exactly similar in any particular place, but listen to the way Νικολόπουλος plays the bouzouki "against" the rhythm in both songs.

If you only heard Ο Σαλονικιός, and then one day you heard Έχασες για πάντα τον αλήτη σου, you would know right away it was Νικολόπουλος.

I guess that means that Νικολόπουλος has a recognizable "signature" as a composer, and according to a young friend of mine who is a Greek composer, that is a "god-given gift" - to be able to compose songs so that everyone knows right away they are yours and nobody else's.