Learning Serbian /Croatian/Bosnian

Cool!

And... that kind of nouns (plural) is really... rarely used... (except "deca" )
I mean, only if you live on a farm you'll need words such as ždrebad or telad...

So it's not that important... not something you'll hear often.

child-dete, pl. form: deca
foal-ždrebe, pl. form: ždrebad
lamb-jagnje, pl. form: jagnjad

I'll just write croatian versions of this, cos 3 of them are different


child - dijete pl. form: djeca
foal - ždrijebe, pl. form: ždrijebad
lamb - janje, pl. form: janjad

i wrote it cos somebody has written that I can help with differences in croatian
so I hope nobody minds

thanks, i needed those croatian variants

Originally Posted by Dangerous & Moving

child-dete, pl. form: deca
foal-ždrebe, pl. form: ždrebad
lamb-jagnje, pl. form: jagnjad

I'll just write croatian versions of this, cos 3 of them are different


child - dijete pl. form: djeca
foal - ždrijebe, pl. form: ždrijebad
lamb - janje, pl. form: janjad

i wrote it cos somebody has written that I can help with differences in croatian
so I hope nobody minds

Yes it always helps having the Croatian varients as well. That way we can see the similarities/differences between Serbian & Croatian language. it also allows us to learn 2 languages in one ..

what happens when you apply cases to a complete name with different genders?

for example: joza šimunić's song

you use only the last name?
(pjesma joza šimunića)?

you use both?
(pjesma joze šimunića)?

or other?

it'll be pjesma joze šimunića...
because it's a guy you add an -a at the end of his surname... but because his first name ends with -a you change it to -e
.... Hope that helped...

Originally Posted by MarkoV

what happens when you apply cases to a complete name with different genders?

for example: joza šimunić's song

you use only the last name?
(pjesma joza šimunića)?

you use both?
(pjesma joze šimunića)?

or other?

Both name and surname have to be in correct case.
but
if it's a woman's name, then surname keeps it original form.
for example...

1. Ljubica Mitić
2. Ljubice Mitić
3. Ljubici Mitić
4. Ljubicu Mitić
5. Ljubice Mitić
6. Ljubicom Mitić
7. Ljubici Mitić

and if it was a man called Mitić, cases' forms would be:
(and they are the same when used alone or with the given name)

1. Mitić
2. Mitića
3. Mitiću
4. Mitića
5. Mitiću
6. Mitićem
7. Mitiću

But if you talk about woman only using her surname, then you add -eva (Mitićeva) if it's her maiden name, or -ka (Mitićka) if that's her married name*, and those forms are not used with first name. And of course, those are first declension nouns.

*many people don't know this rule, and use suffix -ka, nevermind if it's woman's married or maiden name.

good, i think i can remeber that i should practice cases by speaking or i'll never get them right.

odgovor baskarukebaskanoga je bio odličan *

thank you both!

* ili si žena? :S

devojčica
"baska ruke baska noge" is a phrase....
so there's no need (or way?) to change it's form..

anyway, you were understood, and you're welcome!

yes, that was what i was going to ask... if you use nicknames as names but you already answered

another doubt about genitiv...
i don't know how to explain, but you will understand with the example.

collection of kafka's books

you have to use it twice there? how?

kolekcija Kafkovih knjiga
Kafka's books > Kafkove knjige
but when it is in the genitive case such as collection of Kafka's books
you just use the same techniques with -ov- in it... lol

Kolekcija Aninih knjiga
Collection of Ana's books

lol I'm sorry if I don't answer it with details... but I hope it does help in some way :P

Baskarukebaskanoge is an expert and explaing it well

it helps a lot! thanks a lot

that's a lot learned for one morning :P
(here is 5 hours earlier than in europe)

You're waking up early or you don't sleep until morning?

Originally Posted by MarkoV

yes, that was what i was going to ask... if you use nicknames as names but you already answered

Nicknames also need to be changed sometimes. Like he said "baskarukebaskanoge" is a phrase, it's 4 words actually.

Originally Posted by picaflor

Hola, soy peruano.
Hello, I am a peruvian guy.

I understood that

Originally Posted by Vlada

You're waking up early or you don't sleep until morning?

I woke up early because of nightmares :S

Originally Posted by Vlada

Nicknames also need to be changed sometimes. Like he said "baskarukebaskanoge" is a phrase, it's 4 words actually.

well naturally a nick like yours needs to be changed because its a name but nicknames like baskarukebaskanoge or dangerous&moving where the question, if they adopted the category of name.

it would be a good idea to make this forum a sticky like the bulgarian learning forum. Maybe one of the moderators can facilitate that change - if they deem it reasonable that is. Hvala ti puno!!!