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Originally Posted by Zachre

I'll take that as a compliment of maturity haha

Well, you always say you're not a kid anymore, and you're being mysterious when it comes to ur age, so yeah, 30-something It's a good guess.

Ok guys, this is not the right place to do this but, with respect, this crip stuff really is not a joke. I've got some background in this, but you American rappers also oughta know just as well as me, how deep it can go into the industry. Gangs, drugs, money, power. If you don't already know and you think you might some day actually get somewhere in the rap-music world, you'd better start educating yourself. Be prepared, try to learn what it looks like and what it is.

Today's gang world could make the Mafia look like a cheap Bonnie and Clyde imitation. Mafia types may be smarter, but that usually just means they're less dangerous to the common folk.

It used to be just the Bloods and the Crips (pretty much every other gang claimed affiliation to one of the other) but the Mexicans keep getting stronger and stronger and stronger. MS13, check 'em out, but they're old news, just scratching the surface of what's happening now.

Molotova, most Americans really should know more about this, like they've been to school on it, but I know it doesn't usually come across just right in Europe, except maybe on NatGeo .. lots of great documentaries there, but sometimes even they don't get it quite right or complete. But there are lots of websites that give some really good info on gangs. If I can find some of the best ones now, I could post them here (somewhere on ATL) or put them in a PM.

But it also happens that very recently I've run across some cultists in an indirect way, and cults are the same thing. And let me tell you (again respectfully) that it's nothing to laugh at. It can be scary as hell. But where they both come from (gang and cult) is somebody getting control of somebody else, with a smooth line about a "home" and "family" that they (supposedly) never had, or maybe some big wrong was done to them. Even if none of that is quite true (ain't we all had hard times), gang and cult leaders are masters at getting inside people's heads, manipulating emotions, and then stealing or totally wrecking a kid's life.

But all I really wanted to say is that gang (and cult) members are people too, there's just something missing, and sometimes what's missing is just simple respect for/acknowledgement of being "somebody". Anybody can (and should) be talked to like a worthy human being first. I mean unless they're pointing a loaded AK at you and God help you if it's an 11-year-old holding that gun, coz he may be so scared he'll pull the damn trigger without even thinking. It happens. Ain't no jokes here.

Lilpac came here wanting some help with his lyrics and Tyler he told you that yes it is from personal experience but you said no, but you don't really know and I'm not gonna call him a liar.

But lilpac I'll say exactly what Tyler said at first: Listen to Rap, lots of the best rap, not the cheap stuff that even I could write and then put some true feeling (some heart) into it. Don't just write empty-headed stuff, get down inside yourself and your feelings. Like maybe write about how or why the Crips got you in, something like that.

But now I'll tell you ... if it's not there, if there's nothing to write about there, then what are you doing in a gang? Just think about it.

Iet thanks bros an tyler. . I dont gaf wat u think ima crip and. Always will be. Bc thers no gettin out. So gf yoself

Sure, I go fxck myself on a regular basis. Ciaooo Lil' Pac.