Learning Persian and common questions

For sand could you also say mase as well?? I heard that means sand...
or is it wrong??

Originally Posted by amaryn

Soorati-Angel! Just noticed a mistake myself

I AM EATING: the root of the present tense is KHOR: therefore present continuous tense is:

man daram mikhoram
to dari mikhori
ou dareh mikhoreh
ma darim mikhorim
shoma darid mikhorid
anha daran mikhoran
-----------------------
I wasnot blessed. Now I am

If you say: I WAS EATING: (past tense root= KHORD)
man dashtam mikhordam
to dashti mikhordi
ou dasht mikhord
ma dashtim mikhordim
shoma dashtid mikhordid
anha dashtand mikhordan(d)

Our special teachers are very busy today. But they're informed
The formal/informal interests me too an awful lot.....

OoOo I see now. So when using present tense you use khor and when using past tense you use khord... and you would always add mi in front of both of them.
For present tense do you always have to use 'dar' and the following conjugated ones?? And the same as well for 'dasht' when using the past tense??

Yes, dear, when talking about the present continuous tense and the past continuous tense!

[QUOTE=Soorati_Angel;867416]For sand could you also say mase as well?? I heard that means sand...
or is it wrong??[/QUOT

yes youre right.shen=mase=sand shenha=mase ha=sands

salam
1.agar kasi vaghean bekhahad farsi ia har zabane digari ra iad begirad, behtar ast ke aval talafoz ia pronunciation an zaban ra iad begirad.
2. aval farsi meiar ia formal ra iad begirid bad be lahjehaie mokhtalef bepardazid. soali ke shoma darbareie esmhaie jam porsidid dar vaghe be tafavote beine lahjeie tehrani va farsie meiar bar migardad. farsi meiar daghighan hamanande khate neveshtari an ast.
1. اگر کسی واقعاً بخواهد فارسی یا هر زبان دیگری را یادبگیرد ، بهتر است که اول تلفظ آن زبان را یاد بگیرد. شما می توانید از یک لغتنامه فارسی تلفظ دار استفاده کنید.
2. اول فارسی معیار را یاد بگیرید بعد به لهجه های مختلف بپردازید. فارسی معیار دقیقاً مانند خط نوشتاری آن است. سوالی که شما درباره اسامی جمع پرسیدید به تفاوت بین لهجه تهرانی و فارسی معیار بر می گردد.

Mehrdad Followed the conversations above? Are there questions to be answered as to Sooratis sentences formal/informal.
We don't understand what you write. Please explain. Be good and have a closer look. We are lost without our teachers

Originally Posted by amaryn

Mehrdad Followed the conversations above? Are there questions to be answered as to Sooratis sentences formal/informal.
We don't understand what you write. Please explain. Be good and have a closer look. We are lost without our teachers

hi mr Amaryn.
I just said that first you (everyone who want to learn Persian) must learn formal language with Persian Alphabet.
you must focus on grammer and simple words.
if you learn Persian alphabet then you can use persian websites and e-books to practice.
use a babylon dictionary with persian glossaries. it's vary useful. I think Rosetta Stone language software has somthing for persian language.

Originally Posted by amaryn

Soorati-Angel! Just noticed a mistake myself

I AM EATING: the root of the present tense is KHOR: therefore present continuous tense is:

man daram mikhoram
to dari mikhori
ou dareh mikhoreh
ma darim mikhorim
shoma darid mikhorid
anha daran mikhoran
-----------------------
I wasnot blessed. Now I am

If you say: I WAS EATING: (past tense root= KHORD)
man dashtam mikhordam
to dashti mikhordi
ou dasht mikhord
ma dashtim mikhordim
shoma dashtid mikhordid
anha dashtand mikhordan(d)

Our special teachers are very busy today. But they're informed
The formal/informal interests me too an awful lot.....

Wow amaryn..u are gonna take my place as a teacher?u explained better than me, so i feel i can count on you when i'm away But to tell the truth, at first when i saw your first answer which was a bit wrong, i felt a little bit disappointed and i wanted to punish you with some more homework but now i changed my mind and it's so precious u found your mistakes without any help

Originally Posted by Soorati_Angel

I was trying to create sentences using the verbs I have posted before...
but I know for sure I made some sort of error in my sentece structure ... can someone correct me??

here they are:

- I gave a gift to Sara
Man ye hedie dadam be Sara (informal)
Man yek hedie dadam be Sara (formal)

- I have a car (present).
Man ye mashin daram (informal)
Man yek mashin daram (formal)
Or this one??
Man ye mashin dashtam (informal)
Man yek mashin dashtam (formal)
Is this one past tense then?!


- I am eating kabab.
Man mikhordam kabab (or is this ‘I ate kabab’ (present tense)??)

- We went to school.
Ma be madrese raftim

- We are going to El Goli.
Ma be el goli raven (I feel like I’m using the present root wrong.. am I??!)
Should it be instead: ma be el goli raftim???

- Sara brought a gift to the party.
Sara ye hedie be mehmooni avard (informal)
Sara yek hedie be mehmooni avard (formal)

- Aynaz took the gift from Amin
Aynaz hedie ra bord az Amin

- You took the book
To hedie ra bordi
^- would there be a formal way of saying this??

- Sara saw Amin.
Sara Amin did

- I see the fish.
Man mahi ra binam
Or is it ‘man mahi ra didam’
Because I’m using present root…

- I heard the window break.
Man panjare shekaste ra shenidam.

- You hear music.
To muzik shenavi.

- I smell kabab.
Man kabab buidam.

- You are touching the sand.
To mase ra lams koni.
Or is it ‘to mase ra lams kardi.’

I gave a gift to Sara:
Man yek hediye be sara dadam(formal)
Man ye hediye dadam be sara/man ye hediye be sara dadam(informal)

I have a car (present)
Man yek mashin daram(formal)
man ye mashin daram(informal)

I had a car(past)
man yek mashin dashtam(formal)
man ye mashin dashtam(informal)

We are going to El Goli
ma darim be el goli mirim.

Sara brought a gift to the party
sara yek hediye be mehmani avard(formal)
sara ye hediye be mehmooni ovord(informal)

Aynaz took the gift from Amin
aynaz hediye ro az amin gereft/aynaz hediyaro gereft az amin(informal)
aynaz hediye ra az amin gereft(formal)

You took the book
to ketabo bordi(informal)
to ketab ra bordi(formal)

Sara saw Amin
sara amin ra did(formal)
sara amino did/sara amin ro did(informal)

I see the fish
man mahi ra mibinam(formal)
man mahi ro mibinam/man mahiyo mibinam(informal)

I heard the window break
man shekastane panjere ra shenidam

You hear music.\
to moozik ro mishnavi

Originally Posted by pinky_girl

I gave a gift to Sara:
Man yek hediye be sara dadam(formal)
Man ye hediye dadam be sara/man ye hediye be sara dadam(informal)

I have a car (present)
Man yek mashin daram(formal)
man ye mashin daram(informal)

I had a car(past)
man yek mashin dashtam(formal)
man ye mashin dashtam(informal)

We are going to El Goli
ma darim be el goli mirim.

Sara brought a gift to the party
sara yek hediye be mehmani avard(formal)
sara ye hediye be mehmooni ovord(informal)

Aynaz took the gift from Amin
aynaz hediye ro az amin gereft/aynaz hediyaro gereft az amin(informal)
aynaz hediye ra az amin gereft(formal)

You took the book
to ketabo bordi(informal)
to ketab ra bordi(formal)

Sara saw Amin
sara amin ra did(formal)
sara amino did/sara amin ro did(informal)

I see the fish
man mahi ra mibinam(formal)
man mahi ro mibinam/man mahiyo mibinam(informal)

I heard the window break
man shekastane panjere ra shenidam

You hear music.\
to moozik ro mishnavi

Thank you so much pinky_girl!!
I have one question for one of the sentences though,
so when for this sentence for example:
We are going to El Goli
ma darim be el goli mirim.
you always use 'darim' (or any other conjugation for the infinitive) when going somewhere or leaving??

And also, how do you use 'shod'??
does it mean 'got' or something, like ' i got shocked!'

generally we use this structure : subject+ dar+am/i/ad/im/id/and+ mi +present root+suffix for present continous, so whenever you see daram/dari/darad/darim/darid/darand , it will be present continous..

for example: to go (raftan)>>present continous

Man daram miram(informal)>>man daram miravam(formal)>>(I'm going)

to dari miri(informal)>>>to dari miravi(formal)>>>(you're going)

ou dare mireh(informal)>>>ou darad miravad(formal)>>>(he/she is going)

ma darim mirim(informal)>>ma darim miravim(formal)>>>we're going

shoma darid mirid(informal)>>shoma darid miravid(formal)>>you're going

anha daran miran(informal)>>anha darand miravand (formal)>>they're going

another example: to watch(didan)
man daram mibinam
to dari mibini
ou dare mibine
ma darim mibinim
shoma darid mibinid
anha daran mibinan

yeah, "shod" is something like "got" or "become"
for example : i got surprised>>>man surprize shodam
I got sick >>>man mariz shodam
i became happy>>>man khoosh hal shodam

now any question???

Can someone help for these vocabularys:

-dige(h)
-ke(h)
-vase

??

Thank you for giving me a clear idea for all of it!! Thanks so much pinky_girl!!

Originally Posted by Soorati_Angel

Thank you for giving me a clear idea for all of it!! Thanks so much pinky_girl!!

It's my pleasure azizam

[QUOTE=ps;868162]Can someone help for these vocabularys:

-dige(h)
-ke(h)
-vase

Ke= means "that" and it can be used instead of :which/where/who....
for example :
1-the car which is black is mine>>> Mashini ke siyah ast male man ast.
2-the school where i go....>>>madreseyi ke man miram....
3-the child who was playing...>>>bacheyi ke dasht bazi mikard

vase=means "for"..in Farsi for the word "for" we can say :baraye/vase...but the difference is that "vase" is very informal and "baraye is more formal.
examples:
Vasam= for me
Vasat= for you
vasash=for him/her
vasamoon= for us
vasashoon=for them

barayam=for me(formal)
barayat=for you
barayash=for him/her
barayeman=for us
barayeshan=for them

however "baraye" is formal but with some changes it can be used as informal. if u say :
baram= for me
barat=for you
barash=for him/her
baramoon=for us
barashoon=for them
then it will be like "vase" which is informal

Dige= has different meanings depending on the sentence, sometimes it means "no more/any more"
e.x= i don't want anymore= man dige nemikham
I don't smoke anymore=man dige sigar nemikesham
sometimes it doesn't have any meaning!!!!
e.x :Boro dige!= go away
let's see what other teachers think about "dige"...!!!

pinky_girl;

yeah, I see... Thank you very much. I get hope for Learning Persian language. =)
And can you explain the vocabulary "be(h)", too? Or someone else?

Khodahafez

Originally Posted by ps

pinky_girl;

yeah, I see... Thank you very much. I get hope for Learning Perisna language. =)
And can you explain the vocabulary "be(h)", too? Or someone else?

Khodahafez

you're welcome dear...! well" be" is a kind of preposition. and if i want to say an equivalent in English, it's like "to"!

for example :
I go to school>>>Man be madrese miram
He gave the book to me>>>Ou ketab ra be man dad.
He said to me >>>Ou be man goft.

is it clear now??

Originally Posted by pinky_girl

you're welcome dear...! well" be" is a kind of preposition. and if i want to say an equivalent in English, it's like "to"!

for example :
I go to school>>>Man be madrese miram
He gave the book to me>>>Ou ketab ra be man dad.
He said to me >>>Ou be man goft.

is it clear now??

Areh... Kheyli mamnoon azizam.

Khodahafez

[QUOTE=pinky_girl;868473]

Originally Posted by ps

Can someone help for these vocabularys:

-dige(h)
-ke(h)
-vase

Ke= means "that" and it can be used instead of :which/where/who....
for example :
1-the car which is black is mine>>> Mashini ke siyah ast male man ast.
2-the school where i go....>>>madreseyi ke man miram....
3-the child who was playing...>>>bacheyi ke dasht bazi mikard

vase=means "for"..in Farsi for the word "for" we can say :baraye/vase...but the difference is that "vase" is very informal and "baraye is more formal.
examples:
Vasam= for me
Vasat= for you
vasash=for him/her
vasamoon= for us
vasashoon=for them

barayam=for me(formal)
barayat=for you
barayash=for him/her
barayeman=for us
barayeshan=for them

however "baraye" is formal but with some changes it can be used as informal. if u say :
baram= for me
barat=for you
barash=for him/her
baramoon=for us
barashoon=for them
then it will be like "vase" which is informal

Dige= has different meanings depending on the sentence, sometimes it means "no more/any more"
e.x= i don't want anymore= man dige nemikham
I don't smoke anymore=man dige sigar nemikesham
sometimes it doesn't have any meaning!!!!
e.x :Boro dige!= go away
let's see what other teachers think about "dige"...!!!

That was very helpful! I had no idea how you would use these until you explained it now! Merci pinky_girl!!

khahesh mikonam guysssssssi'm glad it was helpful