Bulgarian chit-chat off topic PART 3

Originally Posted by NyLoN_BoY

I don`t know and I don`t wanna think about it

from that, i guess you disapprove of communism?

Originally Posted by LadyDiamond.дама диамант

mersi niki

blagodarja is so much cooler as a word than mersi

guys, i will write the post tomorrow, because it`s way more complicated then i thought and ... yes... so check the thread tomorrow, ok? sorry.

And I don`t wanna talk politics, let`s change the topic, ok?

Are you guys finished with the politics?

Originally Posted by Nere

are you one of those people trying to learn your grandparents' language, or something like that? if so, nope but welcome anyway!

No, because I can already speak my language.

Originally Posted by NyLoN_BoY

FYROM. This country was created 20 years ago...

Before that FYROM was part of yougoslavia (logically) and before that was part of bulgaria. before that was part of ottoman empire and before that was part of the great bulgarian empire.

And before that it was part of the Macedonian Empire. What, forgot to state that fact?

Originally Posted by NyLoN_BoY

The things about how Alexander makedonski ( as we call alexander the great) was from macedonian ethnicy are pure lie. He was greek and he is called makedonski only because he was from greek part of macedonia. He spoke greek, he was feeling greek and he prove that he is greek.

Just because FYROM was created 20 years ago, it isn't fair to say Alexander the Great was "Greek" because Greece was created 200 years ago. 2000 years ago, however, there were ancient countries like, Sparta, Illyrium, Achaia, Arta, Macedonia, ...what, no Greece? Just because it is part of the "Greek" land now, doesn't mean it's Greek.

Originally Posted by NyLoN_BoY

And yes, all countries try to steal historical figures, true, but the FYROM people try to steal all of our history and say that we are...hm...nothing... aliens

Gee I wander why. Does Zaidi Zaidi ring a bell? Although the person who wrote, and sang the song, was born in FYROM , and is FYROMian, and sang it in FYROMian, somehow, according to you guys, It's a Bulgarian song.

Oh and if you didn't guess already, I am FYROMian

See this ethnic map of the Balkans from 1861. Do you see your Macedonian brothers somewhere on there? :]

http://www.srbija.narod.ru/karta/ist...ethnic1861.jpg

teh, what's a map

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/histo...serbs_1914.jpg

Now let's see about this song that makes you all so proud of being Macedonian :]

Now, the the fisrt records of it were found in a songs & poems book published by Liuben Karavelov in 1878. Long before Sarievski was ever born (that's who you claim to have written the song, right?)

Now let's take a closer look at some of Karavelov's abovementioned poems.

(НА ВАСИЛА ЛЕВСКИ)

Сбирайте са, моми, булки,
и млади ергене!
Да чуете барем една
песен и от мене...
Събрахте са. Знайте сега,
че моята песен
не весели младо сърдце, -
мерише на плесен.
"Слънце ярко, слънце светло,
зайди, помрачи са;
а ти, ясна месечинко,
бягай, удави са!
Не светете на турските
кръвави тирани,
които са телата ни
покриле със рани;
не светете на гръцките
духовни търговци,
които са испояле
свойте мирни овци;
не светете на нашите
дебели хаджие,
които са най-първите
хорски кеседжие;
не светете на нашите
кални вестникари,
които са совестьта си
за кокал продале;
не светете на нашите
писатели черни,
които са на турците
чеда мили, верни;
не светете на нашите
учители - крави,
кои носат изгнил мозак
вов кратуни здрави!
Слънце ярко, слънце светло,
небесно светило!
Не нагрявай веч старото, -
то е мъртво, гнило!
Месечинко, виторожко,
не свети богато
над гюбрето, над боклукът,
над хорското блато!
Съберете свойте лучи,
роскошно изгрейте,
над младото, пролетното
свет Христов излейте;
осветлете българската
бесилница света,
която е възвдигната
от ръка проклета!
Тука виси добар юнак,
или млада сила,
която е воскресила
свойта майка мила;
която е пробудила
свойто мило племе,
която е посеяла
ново, здраво семе."

БУЛКА ВЪРВИ ИЗ ГОРА ЗЕЛЕНА

Булка върви, булка върви през гора зелена,
като върви, като върви, жално-милно плаче,
жално-милно плаче, джанам, плаче и нарежда :
" Черней, горо, черней, сестро, двама да чернейме,
ти за твойте листи, горо, аз за първо либе.
Тебе та е, горо-ле сестро, слана осланила,
мене ма е, горо-ле сестро, мама оженила,
мама оженила, горо-ле сестро, за лудо-младо либе.
Нощя ходи, горо-ле сестро, по широко поле,
деня ходи, горо-ле сестро, из дълбоки доли.
Вечер иде, горо-ле сестро, армаган ми носи,
армаган ми носи, горо-ле сестро, се кървави дрехи,
се кървави дрехи, горо-ле сестро, се търговски глави.
Черней горо, черней, сестро, двама да чернейме -
ти за твойте листи, горо, аз за първо либе.
войте листи, горо-ле сестро, пак щът да покарат,
мойта младост, горо-ле сестро не ще се повърне.

**I took the poems' text from the forum "Macedonia's voice"

Originally Posted by macorules94

teh, what's a map

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/histo...serbs_1914.jpg

Your map was made by someone called Dr. Svijic and it says "From a Serbian point of vue" .. come on! I wonder why didn't they say our lands were inhabited by Tatars ;]

I knew it will become such a situation ... so Nere do u now see why I said we'd better avoid such topics...
macorules94 or Michael or Majkl, as u wish, don't forget ur in a BULGARIAN chit-chat!

What do you expect? ... Balkan syndrome :P

There are many different points of views on Macedonia and bulgaria and greece and such so lets keep the Bulgarian chit-chat about Bulgaria

macorules, if it was a thank u button here, i'd thank u for that useful post lol

Originally Posted by tedinkyyy

Всеки със зора си... кой се интересува от Древна Македония, кой от Андреа и Николета Лозанова...

men me interesuva i drevna makedoniq i drevna andrea xD

Древна Андреа? лол.

Древна Малина??? :d

Originally Posted by tedinkyyy

I knew it will become such a situation ... so Nere do u now see why I said we'd better avoid such topics...

aaaa tedi, as you wish but, it doesn't seem too bad to me, people are being civilised

Originally Posted by Nere

aaaa tedi, as you wish but, it doesn't seem too bad to me, people are being civilised

if it was live conversation now everybody would fight with everybody hahaha

yea balkan fight I have realised that I need to be very carefull what I'm saying/writing when talking with southern slavs because you get easily agressive about some subjects

Originally Posted by crazytofik

yea balkan fight I have realised that I need to be very carefull what I'm saying/writing when talking with southern slavs because you get easily agressive about some subjects

this is nothing, try to talk with serbians hahaha
Believe me, I did, you don`t wanna do it hahaha u picku materino

yea ... we poles are mostly like "i dooon't ****ing caaare dude what do you think about me, leeet's drink together" xD but try to say some lie about history especially II WW like "oh it was poles that killed jews and start the II WW" ... the whole polish nation would smash you up xD

Originally Posted by crazytofik

yea ... we poles are mostly like "i dooon't ****ing caaare dude what do you think about me, leeet's drink together" xD but try to say some lie about history especially II WW like "oh it was poles that killed jews and start the II WW" ... the whole polish nation would smash you up xD

well most bulgarians are pretty the same... but we get mad for other history period haha