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    Default I'm learning Arabic <3

    And it's just so hard to get.
    I'm starting to learn the Arabic script but it's still a little hard, seeing as vowels are misplaced in the words.
    I don't understand how to conjugate the words :/ But one thing I do know how to do is read in the English transliterations of al-3rbya.
    Please help me! how do you pronounce 2, 6, 8, and 9?
    I know 3-ayn
    5-kh
    7-ha
    But the other numbers are hard. Especially 2 because in different words it's pronounced differently.
    Ex. Hat2oul -the 2 isn't pronounced. But in a2oul, it's aqoul.
    Help me please and thankyou!

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    first I need to mention you that pronunciation from standard Arabic words changed beside the dialects...

    like ق / q change to :
    - sound "a" in syrian-lebanese and egyptian dialects (see sound 2 below)
    - sound "g" (but more lighter) in gulf and iraqi dialects (see sound 8 below)
    - sound "g" (strong) in moroccan/algerian dialects. usually they wrote it with number 9 like 9albi or G galbi (my heart).

    sound 2... it is sound like ء ... like a/i/u...so hat2oul sound like hat-oul, and a2oul sound like a-oul. in this case they add 2 cause wanna difference with 3. like ba2a and ba3a is two difference word, so cannot write it just like "baa" because it'd confused. hope you would understand.

    sound 8 you just met this in iraqi and gulf dialect... it sound like g but more lighter

    sound 6 like ط like in sound Tall but much stronger.

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    I want to add some information. sometimes you would find ' (apostrophe mark) along with the number like: 3' / 6' / 7' / 9'.
    3' is ghen (غ) not 3ein (ع) with one dot on it.
    6' is (ظ) Zho / strong Z not (ط) Tho / strong T.
    7' is like sound kha "5" (خ) just sometime you would find there's people write this instead.
    9' is like sound Dho / strong D (ض) not Sod / strong S (ص) with a dot on it.

    hope it'd help
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    shukran katheraan Arabic is so hard to learn for an English speaker. Especially with conjugations (الإقتران)
    I have another question too now, how come there are no pronunciations with 1 or 4? those are the only numbers not mentioned in a sentence.

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    4 it's rarely find for write (ذ) because in dialects they pronounce d like hada. and poorly 1 is left out

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    So i would write like this?
    h4a?
    and with the 3'- min 3'yri
    6'- 6'yman
    7'- 7'shouka

    8- so8yrah ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laylawayaam View Post
    So i would write like this?
    h4a?
    and with the 3'- min 3'yri
    6'- 6'yman
    7'- 7'shouka

    8- so8yrah ?
    write the meanings next to your words if u plz and in which dialect are they so we figure out what r u trying to say

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    h4a- hada- this
    min 3'yri- without, or is, depends on the sentence
    6'yman- i'm not sure what this means
    7'shouka- large spoon. (It's a Dominique song)
    8- so8yrah- young?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laylawayaam View Post
    h4a- hada- this
    min 3'yri- without, or is, depends on the sentence
    6'yman- i'm not sure what this means
    7'shouka- large spoon. (It's a Dominique song)
    8- so8yrah- young?
    hatha = hada
    min 3'yri= meen ghayri = who else but me
    6'yman = ??
    7'shouka = khashoga = large spoon in iraqi dialect
    so8yrah = sughayara = young

    usually the most using numbers in arabic when wrting in english letters are
    3 = AA
    2 = A
    6 = tt or tough T
    7= H or tough HH

    but
    4
    8
    5

    are not that much used
    and some people use them instead of some letters
    only arabs can figure them out depending one the previous sentence
    so dont bother yourself with them

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    It probably isn't used much by non-Arab speakers, but my boyfriend is arab and I want to learn as much as I can. It's a very interesting language.
    I know how to read arabic, just not the script that good, and I know how to pronounce the words but I need help with
    verb conjugations
    when is the ta-marbuta used?
    and the different alifs: ى‎ ي*ئ*
    I don't understand how to use them but I do know this: ي : y, or i

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    Tāʾ marbūṭa
    used at the end of words. It mostly exists in grammatically feminine words.

    Arabic nouns are either masculine or feminine.
    Usually when referring to a male, a masculine noun is usually used and when referring to a female, a feminine noun is used.
    In most cases the feminine noun is formed by adding a special character, the ta marbuta ـة ة, to the end of the masculine noun.

    look here in this link

    http://www.languageguide.org/arabic/grammar/

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    shukran, wlkan...لدي المزيد من الأسئلة

    Like the differences between the alifs

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    you can learn the difference between alifs from LAFLWSP

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