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    Default "Oriental-sounding" Greek songs with Arabic influence, not Turkish influence

    I think there are more "Oriental"-sounding Greek songs with Turkish influence than Arabic influence.

    But here is one where the influence is definitely Arabic, not Turkish (in my opinion, anyway.)

    Θέλω να την κάνω - 1994
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...&song_id=22730
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjDmFcdvxFo

    Can anyone think of any others?

    If you can, when you post them in this thread, please put a "Duffy - Do Not Read!" warning on them. That way, it won't be your fault if he accidentally listens to one and gets very upset.

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    There is a mamber hiere in the Forum called Yosis and he was looking for greek music which are covers of arabic music and he found several of them, most of them were new (modern) Songs - and as always I couldn't follow as most of the links I could not open.



    Ta filia sou eina fotia - original song: Inta Omri (M.A. Wahab)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db4X99t0eZA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtOY_P0k8SU (there are 100 Versions of enta omri, first time sung by Om Kolthoum)



    New song:
    Fadl Shaker "Ya Ghaeb" in greek: Sotis Volantis Poso mou lipies

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9nbiAopD8o
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrPS9Ilbexs


    Another classic cong:

    Ta mavra matia sou - arabic original: Nebtidi min hikaya (M.A. Wahab)


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhl2MnbZAps
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-aVo6dLGqw


    Some extraodenaray:

    Misirlou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW6qGy3RtwY (but I like Glykerias version more)
    Pulp fiction fans may know this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3h9p_c5-M



    Do you wanted such examples? Should I think about more?

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    Thank you so much, Tahira. (But you forgot to post the warning saying "Duffy - do not listen to these cuts!")

    Even though Greek covers of Arabic songs are a different category than Arabic-influenced Greek songs, I think Greek covers of Arabic are fascinating. (I was able to open all your links.)

    So I don't know what anyone else thinks, but speaking just for myself:

    Yes - absolutely. Please post whatever you come across. (Just remember to put the warning for Duffy on whatever links you post!!!)

    And thanks again.

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    Duffy: Be Aware of this song! :-)


    Glykeria has a lot of arabic influenced songs:

    Gifitpoulo sto hamam (greek Music, but sticked with arabic and turkish words) (Translation available in the allthelyrics Forums)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjPbFcDmfpo

    Here a Glykeria Medley, my personal favorites of here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p05mmgIx4Sk

    Horepse mou Tsiftetlli (Rosa Eskenazi)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkt47_-cXhw

    somthing almost similiar - unfortunatelly I could only find this cover, I think the original is by Kazantsidis "Exeis kormi arabik"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ZAnQMuQq0

    "Exo ntertia kai kaimoi"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwK7mbKAcAw



    Very modern, and I think the greek cover is better than the original (arabic: Hakim "le le le")
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX_0GqCDXiY


    Chicolata (Giogos Xanthiotis), there is an arabic Version and some Balkan (bulgarian?) Version - always called "Chokolata"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PmYM4943p8
    and this one "oute son exthr mou" is the same song
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7gEUvsIjLc

    This one is called "Senden Cok var" in turkish
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXXSR7xHh8I



    Something modern (Greek arabic cooperation of artists)
    Arabic/greek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ctQz9Jhck4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JFF4YJU3gk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuIwTHThPfo ( I have version on a CD with Amr Diab(?) singing in arabic, greek and arabic in change))
    Last edited by Tahira; 12-24-2014 at 04:43 AM. Reason: add info

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    Thanks for posting those links, Tahira! I'm working my way through the ones that are new to me.

    Meanwhile, at 525 pm 24Dec (local time Xanthi Greece), Glenti 101.1 FM was playing this:

    Duffy: WARNING! Do NOT listen!
    Μάτια μου γλυκά - 2007
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...&song_id=23533
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSJ4OSBqLHU

    I'm sure you'll agree that the influence here is completely Arabic - listen to the strings at the beginning, not to mention the beat. Which of the Arabic rhythms is this one?

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    Definetelly, yes.
    Although at the first moment the song reminded me on "pos to mou ksana" and I realized that it is the same singer.

    Rhythm: Masmoudi (this rhythm is used very very often in arabic Music, I would say ist one of the main rhythms)

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    Thanks, Tahira. Thought it was masmoudi ... but just wanted to be sure ...

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    Another one, which is typical egypt

    Greek Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4hYuYiKdkQ
    arabic original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLd1a50Yfw (Hakim)

    Saidi rhythm
    I am sure, there must be more Hakim covers; he is very very popular in Egypt.

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    Liked your clip of Evdomo ourano, Tahira. Solid performance.

    This one is VERY Arabic-influenced. I would be surprised if there aren't dancers using it in their shows somewhere:

    Οι μάγκες δεν υπάρχουν πια - 1979
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...s&song_id=4144
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16NKnjGFqzU (this is Haroula's version)

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    What about this one, Tahira?

    Με τελείωσες - 1985
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...ls&song_id=349
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDGb1Y0XRNo

    Do you think it's a cover of an Arabic original?

    Or an original Greek song deliberately "modelled" after Arabic songs?

    Here's another - I'm pretty sure this one is NOT a cover:

    Ζήτω τα παράλογα - 1998
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...s&song_id=3595
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dLa2WLlpU
    Last edited by David Halitsky; 12-27-2014 at 01:30 AM.

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    I think the first one
    "Με τελείωσες ",
    is a greek song, modelled (I like this expression) arabic. At the first moment I thought the way, the girls are singing reminded me on bulgarian voices. I think ist called polyphone ?

    The 2nd one, "Ζήτω τα παράλογα "
    I like very much, I didn't know it before. And it sounds quite arabic, but I agree with you I think its not a cover song. At least I do not know an arabic song which sounds like this one.

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    I can definitely understand why you like Ζήτω τα παράλογα, Tahira. The whole song is great for hip-work, but the section from 2:06 to 2:19 is REALLY great for hip-work. Any dancer who knows what she's doing can really catch those accents ... Oops - sorry! I forgot I wasn't supposed to talk to you about beledi/ras sharqi in this forum!

    Regarding the first song, "Με τελείωσες ", I don't know anything about Bulgarian or polyphone, but I bet if you posted the song in the Slavic forum and asked the question, you'd get an answer. Of course, you'd probably get at least one answer from one idiot claiming the Greeks stole the song from the Bulgarians - heh heh heh.

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    This is what I meant with bulgarian voices

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcgDhpS3uo


    I wanted to thank you for all this interesting discussions you started and make us thinking over the Music. I have never learned as amuch about Music as in the past 2 weeks!

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    No need to thank - my privilege to be part of this community!

    Regarding the Bulgarian example - here's my guess. The "multi-voice" (polyphonic) style goes all the way back to Eastern Orthodox church singing that began in the middle ages. But then, due to contact with (and conquest by) the Ottoman turks, Turkish-flavored melodies began to be overlaid on the original "church" style.

    But like I said, that's just my guess.

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    Also, I'm sure you know this one, but I'll post it anyway just in case:

    Μία είναι η ουσία - 1984
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...s&song_id=4017
    https://www.allthelyrics.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=132686
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEQUPriQMcU

    LOVE the oud and the bouzoukee working together ... Ali Hafid ("Mr. Mach Mach") and Avram Pengas used to do bouzouki/oud duets at the Feenjon - just freakin beautiful (Ali played the oud as well as dumbek.)

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    Glenti also played this one this afternoon (nighttime there)

    Όλα θα τα πληρωθείς
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...&song_id=58183
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbpUOEWaXPA

    Glenti also played these two tonight (12/28 in Xanthi):

    Ανέβα στο τραπέζι μου 1983
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...s&song_id=6764
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hy9urXG63o

    Χαράτσι - 1984
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...ls&song_id=702
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LITKNYOy-kY
    Last edited by David Halitsky; 12-27-2014 at 10:15 PM.

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    Good Morning David, you are a "treasure box" everytime you open it, there comes out something special and new!

    I didn't know the Songs, despite "Aneva sto trapezi", and from this song I have CD by Zynet Zali where she sings the song in greek and turkish.

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    Thanks for the kind words, Tahira. But if you really knew me, you'd know I'm more like Pandora's box than a treasure box.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora%27s_box

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    uuuuuhhhhh, so I better watch out !

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    Whenever I cannot open one of the YouTube links you and Duffy or Amthystos are posting I try to find the song in another video clip.
    Coincidentally I cam across this one Feggari Hlomo, with oriental touch, I imediatelly fell in love with this song didin#t know it before.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_KcCH_gIuY
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...ls&song_id=639

    Besides that Bithikotsis is mentioned, I have read the name several time before in your other postings.

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    That IS a great song, Tahira. And the instrumental break starting around 2:04 definitely sounds more Arabic than Turkish .

    By the way, can you read Greek?

    If so, I'll start practicing on you, as well as Amethystos and Duffy (heh heh heh) ...

    Also, here's another one that Glenti played at 5:08 AM New Year's Day in Xanthi:

    Μια αγάπη δεν τελειώνει - 1998
    http://www.stixoi.info/stixoi.php?in...s&song_id=8051
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxl_P8NN4MA
    Last edited by David Halitsky; 12-31-2014 at 08:18 PM.

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    Oh yes, I felt like being in an egyptian night Club :-)

    Yes, I can read greek, I can also write, but I do not know how to switch in greek letters on my computer.
    But I have to say my english is better than my greek.

    By the way: Chronia Pola!

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