Learning Russian language

Originally Posted by Milan.

Хвала. Finally something easy.

Нема на чему Milan,do u learnin Russian,right?

Originally Posted by i'm little one

Нема на чему Milan,do u learnin Russian,right?

Well I'm trying, I know some basic things. Падежи aren't difficult but O (unaccented) is killing me.
Btw I love russian songs, they are helping me with that O.

oh that ''o'' is really a simple thing

Evo ovako, svako nenaglašeno ''o'' se izgovara kao nekakvo zatvoreno a. to je jedna od redukcija (akanje). Postoji i tzv. ikanje kad se nenaglašeno е ili я izgovaraju kao ''i''

Originally Posted by Milan.

Well I'm trying, I know some basic things. Падежи aren't difficult but O (unaccented) is killing me.
Btw I love russian songs, they are helping me with that O.

well Russian and Serbian have some simular things in grammar but sometimes serbian makes me problems too so its normalПадежи in serbian make me confused a liitle sometimes,what can i do
i wish u good luck with Russian

Originally Posted by Dangerous & Moving

oh that ''o'' is really a simple thing

Evo ovako, svako nenaglašeno ''o'' se izgovara kao nekakvo zatvoreno a. to je jedna od redukcija (akanje). Postoji i tzv. ikanje kad se nenaglašeno е ili я izgovaraju kao ''i''

Its easy for you ))))))))))))))

Hvala! Ma meni je problem u tekstu da prepoznam šta je naglašeno kad neke reči prvi put čujem, a u pesmama lakše skontam.

Ah, da zaboravih na to. Istina, to je problem kad prvi put vidiš neke riječi, ne znam kako ti učiš, ja studiram ruski pa nama uglavnom kad čitamo tekstove prvi put bude naglasak na riječima koje ne znamo. Uglavnom, ako imaš rječnik uvijek ti je naglasak označen. No s vremenom kako pamtiš riječi, znaš gdje su naglašene i onda drugi put nemaš problema. Ako učiš sam, a ne znam, isto tako, kako pamtiš riječi, pamti ih gdje su naglašene pa neće biti problema

Originally Posted by Dangerous & Moving

Ah, da zaboravih na to. Istina, to je problem kad prvi put vidiš neke riječi, ne znam kako ti učiš, ja studiram ruski pa nama uglavnom kad čitamo tekstove prvi put bude naglasak na riječima koje ne znamo. Uglavnom, ako imaš rječnik uvijek ti je naglasak označen. No s vremenom kako pamtiš riječi, znaš gdje su naglašene i onda drugi put nemaš problema. Ako učiš sam, a ne znam, isto tako, kako pamtiš riječi, pamti ih gdje su naglašene pa neće biti problema

ohh pls dears,talkin in English if u can coz not everybody ll understand u,and maybe someone wants to know about that too

Oh, I'm sorry, next time I'll write in english xD

Originally Posted by Dangerous & Moving

Oh, I'm sorry, next time I'll write in english xD

i dont mind about Serbian coz its a practice for me to read and learn new words,so hope one day ill write smth too

How do you pronounce Даниил [danil] or [danjil] ? Why two И?
About Филипп, why is there two П?

Originally Posted by Milan.

How do you pronounce Даниил [danil] or [danjil] ? Why two И?
About Филипп, why is there two П?

We pronounce it as [danjiil] (with stress falling on last и, Дани'ил)
A good question why it has 2 и, I have no idea about it...

As for Филипп, Wikipedia says that it comes from greek name Philippos (Φίλιππος). So you see there were two п's in original word, maybe that's the answer.

Даниил its russian form of jewish( Judaic)biblical name Даниэль.
u asked why 2 "И"?well ive never thought about it just keep in ur mind that some names in Russian language can have double letters without any rules,just coz it came from other languages

Thank you both, I was listening Филипп Киркоров on utube. Notice his real name is in bulgarian Филип so I was curious.

So, Milan, do u like Киркоров?

Originally Posted by haydee

So, Milan, do u like Киркоров?

He's а great performer. I like Zhestokaya lyubov and Poleteli.

Originally Posted by Milan.

He's а great performer. I like Zhestokaya lyubov and Poleteli.

i like his songs "ты поверишь","ты,ты ,ты" and that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhRK05ZESdo

"For instance, the word год (year) is actually pronounced as гот, the word глаз (eye) sounds like глас, the word бог (god) is said бох, etc."

Is this true? I found it on masterrussian.com
I'm confused, I thought Ukrainians pronounce Г as Х. I know that in some words V is pronounced like F but I didn't know about Г.

Originally Posted by Milan.

"For instance, the word год (year) is actually pronounced as гот, the word глаз (eye) sounds like глас, the word бог (god) is said бох, etc."

Is this true? I found it on masterrussian.com
I'm confused, I thought Ukrainians pronounce Г as Х. I know that in some words V is pronounced like F but I didn't know about Г.

Бог is indeed usually pronounced as бох. Some people say it as бок (which sounds weird to me and probably isn't correct). And богу - we can say it two ways: [богу] and [бог'у]. This word comes from Church Slavonic, where г was pronounced as х. And in Russian the pronunciation remained. But in other words г in the end is pronounced as к (дог = [док]).

If u can read Russian, here's a link about it: http://www.gramota.ru/book/village/map14.html

Ok, so how about this question? ... beginning with another language as an example .....

In Polish, if "v" is on the end of a word then it's usually pronounced "f", true? And is that also true for Russian? For example, some or all Russian names?

More clearly: Is pronunciation usually or sometimes different if Russian г , Ф or в are on the end of a word?

Originally Posted by jandros

Ok, so how about this question? ... beginning with another language as an example .....

In Polish, if "v" is on the end of a word then it's usually pronounced "f", true? And is that also true for Russian? For example, some or all Russian names?

More clearly: Is pronunciation usually or sometimes different if Russian г , Ф or в are on the end of a word?

Yes, it's true for Russian (I don't know about Polish)
there are voiced consonants: б, в, г, д, ж, з
and voiceless: п, ф, к, т, ш, с

If a voiced consonant is at the end of the word, it sounds like its voiceless analog. A voiceless consonant at the end doesn't change.

I hope it doesn't confuse u So I'll give examples:

код/code = [kot]
кот/cat = [kot]

рог/horn = [rok]
рок/fate = [rok]

Names of course follow this pattern.
Иванов = [Ivanof]