Is masturbation sin

Correct me if i am wrong,if you are a member of the alllyrics site you have access to the christian community?????if thats the case i feel people need to be careful whose advise they take ,some of the people responding might not be saved.

The bible clearly says in col 2 vs 8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit according to the traditions of men,according to the basic principles of the world and not according to Christ.My advise is for one to spent a lot of time in the word because as you do so your discernment level goes higher and then you can be able to discern whether its God or just man speaking.This applies to every area in ones life.

So just take heed whose advise you take.

Masturbation is not and has never been a sinful except when pronounced by some religious authority; particularly Catholicism. I have read every one of the postings to this message board and see nothing but conflict and misinformation. How can people actually learn if there is no an aligned force of instructors who teach the morals and dogmas, the true understanding of something and any potential ramifications.

I am 19 years old and have been masturbating since I was 13 when I first actually ejaculated. There is nothing to it other than it feels good and it has helped me control the usual guy problem of premature ejaculation. I have done it with friends of both genders. Girls are more inquisitive and enjoy watching it because it is something that is solely male. I belong to a masturbation group that meets whenever we feel like it and it includes both genders who just want to give a show of their pleasure or get a charge out of being watched and they do it.

When I was in high school I was just like many other guys who were Varsity athletes in two sports who just liked doing it. I taught my younger brothers how to do it along with many others guys. Most guys just need to get past the self consciousness part and they find no problem completing it. I am repulsed by pornography and about as racy as I get in print form is Maxim Magazine and I respect and appreciate the female mind and its connection to sex and meaningful relationships. Now please DO NOT JUDGE ME, but I have masturbated on several occasions with my older sister and she taught me a few things about girls. We did it a few times but when I finally got so caught up in the moment and let her masturbate me to ejaculation I could feel the wrongfulness of the action. She just giggled and now we just quietly joke about it, but will never do it again.

I am a Christial and have been saved. I attend an Assemblies of God Church where the hell fire and brimstone messages really appeal to me. There are times when I just succumb to what I can say is nothing but lust and fantasy and I masturbate in the nearby forest and orange groves just to feel the freedom of open air and I guess a bit of rebellion. I often pretend I am being watched by a couple, but never in a million years would I ever do it where anyone could really see me.

I have researched it in the bible and through commentaries, discussions with my professors at Azusa Pacific University and internet discussion boards which is how I found this forum. I do not feel nor can I ever support the position that masturbation is sinful in nature at all. Private thoughts and fantasies are just that - private! The Onanism thing is grossly out of context just as is the issue of women using birth control in the Catholic Church. There is nothing adulterous or prurient about thinking of an woman; even if she is the hot married mom down the street, unless one is weak and unable to control one's own passions and tries to act upon the thoughts. Like I said, I'm 19 and I am amazed how many older women in their 30s are infatuated and curious about teenagers and they are the ones who usually make the first move. A few months ago my friends and I were surfing when two women -both 32- and on vacation here asked us if we wanted to "throw caution to the wind and just have some meaningless vacation. When I found out that the one I found most attractive was married with a family in Oklahoma I shut that whole thing down! My friend was OK with it.

We talked about religion and politics of sex, a conversation which they initiated and especially about the masturbation as sin issue. Both were practicing Roman Catholics. When my friend and I sneaked off with each of them into a room by ourselves I was very surprised that her thing was wanting to watch me ejaculate. Her boyfriends were all Catholic and very inhibited and the only way she had seen it happen was in a video. I explained how porn disgusts me and we talked about it and how it related to sin. It was actually one of the deepest and most interesting converation I ever had with a woman. Of course she was not an 18-19 year old inexperienced bimbo either and that was refreshing. I did it for her and she seemed genuinely open and curious because while I was doing it the first time we talked about things. No other touching that time. About a half hour later she did it for me and then asked me if I wanted to watch her do it. It was definitely an experience and I finally understood the whole girl pleasure thing and of course the "G-Spot" which I still do not get very well. We ended up having sex a couple times and then parted ways. She would not give me her number or where they were staying and I'm still pretty sure her name "Amber" was bogus too.

After it was all over I did feel like a hollow being for a while and now I understand what girls go through when they are used for sex without any commitment or at least fulfillment and I have promised myself I will never do it that way again. I think I was infatuated with her looks and her body and it felt like I had just broken up with her. That was the only feelings and guilt I had, more than ever before. I felt that was God talking to me and telling me enough was enough! I've really become a different person; a better person because of masturbation, but I'm still positive there is nothing sinful about it. Of course the whole fornication issue and the admonishments of Ephesians deepened my thoughts and I really felt bad about the night except the masturbation part. I felt I did something nice and strangely fun for her and it satisfied her curiosity I guess. So after all this babbling, rambling and rationalization I thank you for reading it and that it provokes theoughts in your mind over the sin vs. no sin debate in your own mind.

I love the Lord and would never again complicate my walk with him I think you can reply to me via E-mail where I will gladly answer any of your questions in a serious and direct fashion, despite my humorous screen name. Good bye for now,
Kevin

Originally Posted by JoePudpounder

Masturbation is not and has never been a sinful except when pronounced by some religious authority; particularly Catholicism. I have read every one of the postings to this message board and see nothing but conflict and misinformation. How can people actually learn if there is no an aligned force of instructors who teach the morals and dogmas, the true understanding of something and any potential ramifications.

I am 19 years old and have been masturbating since I was 13 when I first actually ejaculated. There is nothing to it other than it feels good and it has helped me control the usual guy problem of premature ejaculation. I have done it with friends of both genders. Girls are more inquisitive and enjoy watching it because it is something that is solely male. I belong to a masturbation group that meets whenever we feel like it and it includes both genders who just want to give a show of their pleasure or get a charge out of being watched and they do it.

When I was in high school I was just like many other guys who were Varsity athletes in two sports who just liked doing it. I taught my younger brothers how to do it along with many others guys. Most guys just need to get past the self consciousness part and they find no problem completing it. I am repulsed by pornography and about as racy as I get in print form is Maxim Magazine and I respect and appreciate the female mind and its connection to sex and meaningful relationships. Now please DO NOT JUDGE ME, but I have masturbated on several occasions with my older sister and she taught me a few things about girls. We did it a few times but when I finally got so caught up in the moment and let her masturbate me to ejaculation I could feel the wrongfulness of the action. She just giggled and now we just quietly joke about it, but will never do it again.

I am a Christial and have been saved. I attend an Assemblies of God Church where the hell fire and brimstone messages really appeal to me. There are times when I just succumb to what I can say is nothing but lust and fantasy and I masturbate in the nearby forest and orange groves just to feel the freedom of open air and I guess a bit of rebellion. I often pretend I am being watched by a couple, but never in a million years would I ever do it where anyone could really see me.

I have researched it in the bible and through commentaries, discussions with my professors at Azusa Pacific University and internet discussion boards which is how I found this forum. I do not feel nor can I ever support the position that masturbation is sinful in nature at all. Private thoughts and fantasies are just that - private! The Onanism thing is grossly out of context just as is the issue of women using birth control in the Catholic Church. There is nothing adulterous or prurient about thinking of an woman; even if she is the hot married mom down the street, unless one is weak and unable to control one's own passions and tries to act upon the thoughts. Like I said, I'm 19 and I am amazed how many older women in their 30s are infatuated and curious about teenagers and they are the ones who usually make the first move. A few months ago my friends and I were surfing when two women -both 32- and on vacation here asked us if we wanted to "throw caution to the wind and just have some meaningless vacation. When I found out that the one I found most attractive was married with a family in Oklahoma I shut that whole thing down! My friend was OK with it.

We talked about religion and politics of sex, a conversation which they initiated and especially about the masturbation as sin issue. Both were practicing Roman Catholics. When my friend and I sneaked off with each of them into a room by ourselves I was very surprised that her thing was wanting to watch me ejaculate. Her boyfriends were all Catholic and very inhibited and the only way she had seen it happen was in a video. I explained how porn disgusts me and we talked about it and how it related to sin. It was actually one of the deepest and most interesting converation I ever had with a woman. Of course she was not an 18-19 year old inexperienced bimbo either and that was refreshing. I did it for her and she seemed genuinely open and curious because while I was doing it the first time we talked about things. No other touching that time. About a half hour later she did it for me and then asked me if I wanted to watch her do it. It was definitely an experience and I finally understood the whole girl pleasure thing and of course the "G-Spot" which I still do not get very well. We ended up having sex a couple times and then parted ways. She would not give me her number or where they were staying and I'm still pretty sure her name "Amber" was bogus too.

After it was all over I did feel like a hollow being for a while and now I understand what girls go through when they are used for sex without any commitment or at least fulfillment and I have promised myself I will never do it that way again. I think I was infatuated with her looks and her body and it felt like I had just broken up with her. That was the only feelings and guilt I had, more than ever before. I felt that was God talking to me and telling me enough was enough! I've really become a different person; a better person because of masturbation, but I'm still positive there is nothing sinful about it. Of course the whole fornication issue and the admonishments of Ephesians deepened my thoughts and I really felt bad about the night except the masturbation part. I felt I did something nice and strangely fun for her and it satisfied her curiosity I guess. So after all this babbling, rambling and rationalization I thank you for reading it and that it provokes theoughts in your mind over the sin vs. no sin debate in your own mind.

I love the Lord and would never again complicate my walk with him I think you can reply to me via E-mail where I will gladly answer any of your questions in a serious and direct fashion, despite my humorous screen name. Good bye for now,
Kevin

Try to get affended at what I am about to say to all of you. But I am an American who was exactly like all of you but have been able to see a broader picture of society today by residing for the past 6 years in a developing country in South America. I have noticed that teenagers and society in general in this part of the world (and I can only imagine that other cultures and societies in the world also) have a different perspective on sex than today's mainstream view (which is at its fullest in the US). Remember I am an American who has had my full share of sexual experiences and the desires of it through out my high school years and after. I know the pressures of "enjoying" sex and the temptation of it well. It isn't exactly what you would expect. If you did a world survey you would find that a surprising big number of people don't masterbate more so with the girls. I must agree that boys seem to do it more. However, the notion that it is "normal" and "a need" is just rubbish. That's just modern day thinking and "Western" at that. Have you heard the expression "The decline of Western Civilization"?

So please consider the fact that especially in today's American society sex has been tarnished and perverted tremendously. Same goes for many European countries. It is very common (not in the States) for people to not masterbate and "to wait until marriage". An idea unheard of in the US, I know, but that doesn't mean that the whole world is like you are. In fact, I have noticed how completely different the world actually is than our Americanized Society. You just don't even know and I bet you have never experienced another culture save a vacation trip and Mexico and Canada. So those "statistics" that offer high percentages for people that masterbate are based mostly of North American and/or European people who, for generations ago now, have been, successfully may I say, bombarded with more sleezy and meaningless regards towards sex. And what's the result? = A totally misunderstood conception of what God intended sex to be. And if I may go further, It's an obvious tactic of Satan or the Devil or Evil or negative energy (whatever you want to call it) to destroy us in the end. In layman's terms, there's an evil force out there that is to be wrecken with who's soul purpose is to see to it that you be and remain in spiritual ignorance because this in the end destroys you. Let me say that today's teens need a major, I mean major, revamp of their perspective on sex and a whole lot of other things and it's only going to get worse in the generations to come. Please return fast Jesus! Amen.

So I have come to the conclusion that masterbation is just another example of the decline of modern day morals along with worse trends like early sex, girl on girl experimenting, "complete" homosexuality, and other even more immoral "habits" that naturally, looking at the course of things, will also become "accepted" soon.

Bottom line: Is masterbation a sin? Yes because it is a perversion of sex. Sex wasn't meant to be like this. It was meant to be shared with your spouse. That's God's Law, plain and simple. It becomes an obstacle for God to be in your life. Now are you a sinner and are going to hell? NO, unless you think like many of those who have posted here refusing to see masterbation as it is in spite of the many good responses against it. If you can't knock the habit but you at least feel guilty afterwards as you say then at least you are on the right path. It's the Holy Spirit convicting you of sin. You just need to hang in there, perservere and eventually drop this useless deed that robs you if REAL blessings from God. This isn't the only thing that christians have trouble with, you know. There are so many other things that we are all called on to tackle and improve on in order to show that we are indeed christians worthy to be called his true followers.

Stop doing it. It doesn't help you at all.

Hope this helps.

And JoePudPounder ... dude you are just off the wall. Distorted and mistaken. You are just young (19) and infatuated with sex. When you get older you'll see how superficial all the things you told us about really are. And hopefully how unhelpful your advice is to our friend here.

what is sexual immorality? masturbation is sexually immoral.

Originally Posted by judd

what is sexual immorality? masturbation is sexually immoral.

I saw your post asking if masturbation is a sin. I'm not really going to answer that question directly because really the only one who is able to answer that in your life is God, if you have a relationship with Him. What I CAN tell you is that masturbation is an addiction that can soon control your life and cause serious problems in your relationship with others. When the act of masturbation gets put before a spouse or is constantly on your mind, like the next hit for a drug addict, it soon controls your behavior, thoughts, and judgments. I can say this because I almost lost my marriage over this. There is a website (link deleted) and the founder of this site has studied masturbation / sex addiction extensively. My awareness of masturbation and looking at pornography as an addiction is what has helped saved my marriage! There are AWESOME recovery groups established around the country called Freedom Groups that are focused solely on this issue. My spouse is attending a Partners Recovery Group that has enabled her to work on the issues she has brought into the marriage as well. Men of all ages attend my group from young adults to senior citizens. Most have been "exposed" in their addiction because it grows worse over time. Soon your masturbation will not be enough and the addiction forces you to seek riskier levels of satisfaction. Did you know that when you masturbate a chemical gets released in your brain (dopamine) which is the same chemical that drug addicts deal with? God created us so that when the orgasm happens with a spouse, the dopamine is washed over with another chemical that balances it out. I would highly encourage you to look at the resources on that website, see if there is a Freedom group in your area, and purchase the book The Final Freedom, which is for sale there. I will be praying for you - that God will give you clarity as to what extent the need to masturbate affects you and controls you in your daily life.

Blessings.