Learning German language

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    Steena said:

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    As in the French language you have to learn the gender of things You are right about the Tür, though nothing would indicate it being female it is "Die Tür", meaning "sie" in conclusion. While it is "Der Fernseher" - what's so male about a TV?
    होता है जो होना है ... वक़्त ही शायद खुदा है ...
    कौन कहता है आदमी अपनी किस्मत खुद लिखता है?
     
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    so Fernseher would get 'er'? that was my original questions do objects get the sie/er pronoun or es.

    Der Fernseher ist teuer. Er kostet viertausend Euro.
     
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    Yes they do Fernseher would be substituted by the pronoun, "er"
    The German word for girl, to me, seems one of the hardest to find out the gender. While a girl is clearly female, it is neuter in the language.
    Das Mädchen spielt draußen. Es lacht dabei.
    होता है जो होना है ... वक़्त ही शायद खुदा है ...
    कौन कहता है आदमी अपनी किस्मत खुद लिखता है?
     
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    yes, SEXISM. Also with the word that I was taught in school that no one uses now: das Fräulein. Probably hasn't been used since the 19th century

    EDIT: excluding this though http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A4ulein_Wunder
     
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    Kaulitz_girl_483 said:

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    hey
    whats the difference between "brennt" and "verbrennen"
    ehmmm if i say "Das Haus brennt" and "Das Haus verbrennen"
    its the same meaning? what would be? "this house burns"?
     
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    Generally they are used in quite the same way, but looking at your sentence no one would actually say "Das Haus verbrennt." There's no rule against it, yet things that big don't burn this way ... For me verbrennen ist used with smaller things, like wood. And "brennen" has much more meanings, like biting on the skin, cauterize in a chemical way -- for none of these you would use "verbrennen". Still, the general "rule" would say that you can use both in the same way. If you're not sure, rather use "brennen".
    होता है जो होना है ... वक़्त ही शायद खुदा है ...
    कौन कहता है आदमी अपनी किस्मत खुद लिखता है?
     
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    Kaulitz_girl_483 said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steena View Post
    Generally they are used in quite the same way, but looking at your sentence no one would actually say "Das Haus verbrennt." There's no rule against it, yet things that big don't burn this way ... For me verbrennen ist used with smaller things, like wood. And "brennen" has much more meanings, like biting on the skin, cauterize in a chemical way -- for none of these you would use "verbrennen". Still, the general "rule" would say that you can use both in the same way. If you're not sure, rather use "brennen".
    ahhh okay
    i made that example about "Haus" xD
    Der himmel brennt
    Die traume verbrennt

    i noticed the difference in there xD
    the sky burns
    the dreams burn
    is allright?
     
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    If you keep in mind that it is "Die Träume verbrennen", it sounds OK.
    होता है जो होना है ... वक़्त ही शायद खुदा है ...
    कौन कहता है आदमी अपनी किस्मत खुद लिखता है?
     
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    TheNuttyOne said:

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    is this correct?

    Alle sind groß, ausser einem Mann, der klein ist.
     
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    Steena said:

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    Yes
    außer is commenly written with the sharp s as well.
    होता है जो होना है ... वक़्त ही शायद खुदा है ...
    कौन कहता है आदमी अपनी किस्मत खुद लिखता है?
     
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    how does 'sich' change the verb's meaning? What is the difference between gehen/sich gehen and fallen/sich fallen etc
     
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    Steena said:

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    The difference is that the latter doesn't exist
    "sich" is an indicator of a reflexive verb, which gehen and fallen are not
    You cannot fall or walk yourself.
    होता है जो होना है ... वक़्त ही शायद खुदा है ...
    कौन कहता है आदमी अपनी किस्मत खुद लिखता है?
     
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    I can read or write German quite correctly but the problem comes when I'm asked to form sentences. Can you please suggest some way i can understand the genders of the nouns? is there any specific rule regarding the use of der, die and das? Please help.
     
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    I think most people have exactly the same difficulty...the problem is just that there really are no specific rules to say when der, die or das is used. What people usually do is look at what kind of gender fits for the specific object/noun which typically results in a funny use of articles. I'm afraid only reading and remembering the correct articles for every single noun will help. Mind you, however, even German people occasionally get mixed up with them.
    We are Brothers
    of the North
    who are sharing the All-Father's Blood
     
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    Thanks for helping me, Cosmonaut! I'm learning this language at school level, actually. My teacher too said the same, but I found it quite difficult to remember the proper articles' uses. Too bad; I'll have to learn the harder way... but at least it'll help me in the exams. Thanks again!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suveer View Post
    Thanks for helping me, Cosmonaut! I'm learning this language at school level, actually. My teacher too said the same, but I found it quite difficult to remember the proper articles' uses. Too bad; I'll have to learn the harder way... but at least it'll help me in the exams. Thanks again!
    If you're good at memorization the book I use has a list of endings for each gender so:

    Masculine (der): -ant (Konsonant); -ast (Kontrast); -ich (Teppich), -ig (Hoenig), -ismus (kapitalismus); -ling (Fruehling); -or (Motor), -us (Rhythmus)

    Feminine (die): -a (Pizza); -anz (Eleganz); -rei (Bucherei); -heit/-keit (Krankheit); -gie (Biologie), -ik (Panik), -in (Lehrerin), -schaft (Partnerschaft), -sion (Explosion), -taet (Universitaet), -ung (Regierung), -ur (Natur)

    Neuter (das): -chen (Maedchen), lein (Buechlein), -ma (Drama), -tel (Viertel), -um (Album)

    There are exceptions but they work most of the time:
    they say -ant is Masculine but Restaurant is Neuter,
    and -anz is supposed to be Feminine but Tanz is Masculine etc.

    The only one you can count on is that all plural nouns are die (Feminine)
    Last edited by TheNuttyOne; 02-19-2010 at 01:11 PM.
     
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    Hi Nuttyone,
    I have never been aware of this! :-) But you are totally right !

    COncering the word RESTAURANT it might be different as it is a french word or a lean word from latin.

    And concerning TANZ, here it ia a complete word Tanz/Dance, "anz" is not an ending as in the other words you have mentioned above.
     
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    Suveer said:

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    Hey, this was really useful... It's somewhat like a rule. Thanks, TheNuttyOne! I hope I can use this in my tests...
     
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    TheNuttyOne said:

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    am schlechtesten / der schlechteste
    am besten / der beste

    What's the difference, when are they used?
     
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    Tahira said:

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    Schlecht / schlecht / am schlechtesten
    BAD - worse - the worst


    Gut / besser / am besten
    good / better / the best


    These words are used if you compare something.
    Although I am german I only can explain it to you in this simple way, I cannot do it grammatically. But these words are used the same way as in English/American.

    Hope my answer did help you a little bit further