Learning French language

i guess you translated Je te dois, toujours from I owe you, forever or something like that, right?
but if you just say Je te dois in french, it's a bit strange lol, because all the people will ask you "owe WHAT?!".
it's like when you say to a british that you are better, he will (for sure) ask you "better THAN WHAT?!"

so i think you have to add tout (everything).
Je te dois tout

l'averse de l'étoile ==> l'averse étoilée (sounds better)

For a poetical correction, I let it to WannaBFluent, he does it so well…

i did the last one, now it's your turn

Originally Posted by WannaBFluent

i guess you translated Je te dois, toujours from I owe you, forever or something like that, right?
but if you just say Je te dois in french, it's a bit strange lol, because all the people will ask you "owe WHAT?!".
it's like when you say to a british that you are better, he will (for sure) ask you "better THAN WHAT?!"

so i think you have to add tout (everything).
Je te dois tout

Absolutely, "devoir quelque chose à quelqu'un" is a transitive verb so you have to add a complement: je te dois tant, je te dois beaucoup, je te dois tout or use sth else, like être redevable."Redevable" has a concrete meaning to me (money, favour, etc), but I can't find the right thing to say, I think it depends on the context.


Je te dois, toujours
Je te suis redevable, toujours
or
Je te dois toujours tout/tant/tellement

Est-ce que c'est possible d'être sans toi?
Instead of "d'être sans toi", you can say "de rester sans toi" or "d'exister sans toi". It sounds better to me.

Comme la nuit qui doit lendemain matin
Comme la nuit est suspendue au (lendemain) matin (as the night is hung upon the morning)

Comme la seule vague froide qui doit le beau regard de la mer
I'm not very sure about the sense, what about sth like this:
Comme la vague froide et isolée qui doit à la mer sa belle apparence
As the cold and lonely wave owes the sea its beautiful look
(it's just an assumption)

Comme la terre froide et assoiffée qui doit les caresses de lapluie
qui dépend (that depends) des caresses de la pluie
qui attend (that expects) les caresses de la pluie

Quand la pluie do ton regard pleure sur la nuit soyeuse
or quand la pluie de ton regard se déverse sur la nuit soyeuse (a person cries but rain pours right?)

Si tu ne sois pas un fin pour mes larmes et fatigues
Si tu ne mets pas fin à (If you don't put an end to...) mes larmes et mes fatigues
Comment je reviens de ces interminable routes
Comment reviendrai-je (How will I come back...?) de ces interminables routes?

It's just a little change of style but if you don't like you can skip it, with Hannibal's corrections it's perfectly understandable and correct.

Tu es le dieu d'amants, je te dois toujours
Tu es le dieu des amants (if the poet is a man, it would probably be "tu es la déesse des amantes")

Quand je dis to nom , il rafraichit le battement du moment
"dis" is correct, but as he sees the other as a god,"prononcer" makes it more theatrical, like a ritual
il ralentit le battement du moment/il ralentit (slows down/cools down) le rythme de l'instant présent (rafraîchir means that the temperature decreases )

Originally Posted by hannibal77

For a poetical correction, I let it to WannaBFluent, he does it so well… but here are a few commentaries :



- Est-ce que c'est possible d'être sans toi? -> Est-ce possible d'être sans toi ? (more beautiful, and you have the right to do that)

- Comment je peux libérer de la nuit qui est devant moi, sans toi? -> Comment puis-je… (more beautiful)

- Moi, qui est fatigué et sans âme -> Moi qui suis fatigué et sans âme ("Moi qui est" is wrong, but this is a mistake that even some francophones do ! Moi qui suis, toi qui es, lui/elle qui est, nous qui sommes, vous qui êtes, eux/elles qui sont)

- Je te rejoinds sous l'averse de l'étoile -> Je te rejoins…

- Quand la pluie de ton regard pleure sur la nuit soyeuse

- Si tu ne sois pas une fin pour mes larmes et [mes]fatigues -> Si tu n'es pas… (SI + indicatif, not SI + subjonctif)

- Tu es le dieu d'amants, je te dois toujours -> (Here I don't understand what you mean by "tu es le dieu d'amants), please explain it in english maybe, then I can help you)

- Quand je dis ton nom , il rafraichit le battement du moment -> rafraîchit, but to be honest, I think this is not an obligation anymore to put this accent here since the orthographical reform in the 1990s

Oh la la, I guess one of my best mistakes was "moi qui est", I never thought that it could be wrong!!!But I'm so glad I made such a mistake otherwise I never found out the right fromthank you so much....
In Persian after "si" we use subjunctive so I thought maybe in French it is the same...LOL
Actually he has sung this song for God, and in this part when he says "Tu es le dieu d'amants", I wanted to say " you are the God of lovers" or you are the God of people who are in love"...or something like that....
and in this sentence "il rafraichit le battement du moment" I wanted to say "When I say your name , it refreshes the pulse of moment"...does "rafraîchir" mean "refresh" in here....???

Originally Posted by WannaBFluent

i guess you translated Je te dois, toujours from I owe you, forever or something like that, right?
but if you just say Je te dois in french, it's a bit strange lol, because all the people will ask you "owe WHAT?!".
it's like when you say to a british that you are better, he will (for sure) ask you "better THAN WHAT?!"

so i think you have to add tout (everything).
Je te dois tout

l'averse de l'étoile ==> l'averse étoilée (sounds better)


i did the last one, now it's your turn

Yeah , that's totally right...I meant "I owe you always"
Oh ok, so u gotta make clear why you owe someone
thanks<3<3

Originally Posted by Enoo

Absolutely, "devoir quelque chose à quelqu'un" is a transitive verb so you have to add a complement: je te dois tant, je te dois beaucoup, je te dois tout or use sth else, like être redevable."Redevable" has a concrete meaning to me (money, favour, etc), but I can't find the right thing to say, I think it depends on the context.


Je te dois, toujours
Je te suis redevable, toujours
or
Je te dois toujours tout/tant/tellement

Est-ce que c'est possible d'être sans toi?
Instead of "d'être sans toi", you can say "de rester sans toi" or "d'exister sans toi". It sounds better to me.

Comme la nuit qui doit lendemain matin
Comme la nuit est suspendue au (lendemain) matin (as the night is hung upon the morning)

Comme la seule vague froide qui doit le beau regard de la mer
I'm not very sure about the sense, what about sth like this:
Comme la vague froide et isolée qui doit à la mer sa belle apparence
As the cold and lonely wave owes the sea its beautiful look
(it's just an assumption)

Comme la terre froide et assoiffée qui doit les caresses de lapluie
qui dépend (that depends) des caresses de la pluie
qui attend (that expects) les caresses de la pluie

Quand la pluie do ton regard pleure sur la nuit soyeuse
or quand la pluie de ton regard se déverse sur la nuit soyeuse (a person cries but rain pours right?)

Si tu ne sois pas un fin pour mes larmes et fatigues
Si tu ne mets pas fin à (If you don't put an end to...) mes larmes et mes fatigues
Comment je reviens de ces interminable routes
Comment reviendrai-je (How will I come back...?) de ces interminables routes?

It's just a little change of style but if you don't like you can skip it, with Hannibal's corrections it's perfectly understandable and correct.

Tu es le dieu d'amants, je te dois toujours
Tu es le dieu des amants (if the poet is a man, it would probably be "tu es la déesse des amantes")

Quand je dis to nom , il rafraichit le battement du moment
"dis" is correct, but as he sees the other as a god,"prononcer" makes it more theatrical, like a ritual
il ralentit le battement du moment/il ralentit (slows down/cools down) le rythme de l'instant présent (rafraîchir means that the temperature decreases )

Oh I loved your corrections very much, specially these ones "Comme la nuit est suspendue au (lendemain) matin/ Comme la vague froide et isolée qui doit à la mer sa belle apparenceare/qui dépend (that depends) des caresses de la pluie".... They are exactly the ones that I was trying to say but it was like I couldn't find the right words for saying them....thank u so much....<3<3<3

You guys are so fast...I didn't expect you to reply so soon, but you surprised me
All of you did a great job and I appreciate that very very much.....
Thanks a million , Merci mille fois , ye donya mamnoon

Originally Posted by pinky_girl

You guys are so fast...I didn't expect you to reply so soon, but you surprised me
All of you did a great job and I appreciate that very very much.....
Thanks a million , Merci mille fois , ye donya mamnoon

the early bird catches the worm! lol. i just wanted to know, where do you come from? Iran? do you speak persian? maybe kurdish (i wanna learn kurdish)? what's your native language?

Khahesh mikonam, pinky girl. Fekr konam ke shab hasti haha.

Originally Posted by WannaBFluent

the early bird catches the worm! lol. i just wanted to know, where do you come from? Iran? do you speak persian? maybe kurdish (i wanna learn kurdish)? what's your native language?

LOLI come from Iran and I speak Persian(Farsi)

Originally Posted by hannibal77

Khahesh mikonam, pinky girl. Fekr konam ke shab hasti haha.

You mean "shad'???(glad/happy) yeah I'm totally happy And If you mean "shab"(night)...here is 9 A.M right now

Euh oups… bale bale, shad baashi, va shab beh kheir agar dar shab minevisi.

Originally Posted by hannibal77

Euh oups… bale bale, shad baashi, va shab beh kheir agar dar shab minevisi.

yeah now you said it rightI think the difference between Iran's time and France time is 2 :30 hours...now here is 5:30 P.M and in France it should be 3 P.M

so you don't speak Kurdish? but Kurdish looks like Farsi, isn't it?

Originally Posted by pinky_girl

Actually he has sung this song for God, and in this part when he says "Tu es le dieu d'amants", I wanted to say " you are the God of lovers" or you are the God of people who are in love"...or something like that....

Oh okay I misunderstood it a little then. You can say "Tu es le Dieu des amants" or "Tu es le Dieu des gens qui s'aiment" (you are the God of people who love each other).

Originally Posted by pinky_girl

and in this sentence "il rafraichit le battement du moment" I wanted to say "When I say your name , it refreshes the pulse of moment"...does "rafraîchir" mean "refresh" in here....???

"To refresh the pulse" → "Raviver (to revive) les battements" / "redonner un pouls" (the second one is more medical) but they're used when speaking of a heart. Speaking of a moment, it would be a little weird. Maybe something like "il ravive/il redonne vie à l'instant présent" would fit.

Originally Posted by pinky_girl

Oh I loved your corrections very much, specially these ones "Comme la nuit est suspendue au (lendemain) matin/ Comme la vague froide et isolée qui doit à la mer sa belle apparenceare/qui dépend (that depends) des caresses de la pluie".... They are exactly the ones that I was trying to say but it was like I couldn't find the right words for saying them....thank u so much....<3<3<3

You're welcome, my dear! I'm so glad you liked them!!

Originally Posted by WannaBFluent

so you don't speak Kurdish? but Kurdish looks like Farsi, isn't it?

No I don't...and Kurdish is way too different from Persian..I had a friend who spoke Kurdi and I coulnd't understand what she said...maybe some of the words are similar to Persian but the rest is different...

Thanks dear Enoo, you did a great job<3<3<3<3

All these hearts made me blush, dooste man

How to express a condition in French:



In the present:
Si + Imperfect + Present conditional:
Si je le voyais, je te le dirais. (If I saw it, I would tell you)
Ø + Present conditional + Present conditional:
Je le verrais, je te le dirais. (same meaning)



In the past:

- the most used:
Si + Pluperfect + Past conditional, 1^st form:
Si je l'avais vu, je te l'aurais dit. (If I had seen it, I wouldhave told you)
Ø + Past conditional, 1^st form + Past conditional, 1^stform
Je l'aurais vu, je te l'aurais dit. (same meaning)

- rarely used and only in books (or when speaking, just for bragging ):
Si + Past anterior + Past conditional, 2^nd form:
Si je l'eus vu, je te l'eusse dit. (same meaning)


A website for French conjugations: http://leconjugueur.lefigaro.fr/ (enter the verb and click on "conjuguer")

Originally Posted by Enoo

Si je l'eus vu, je te l'eusse dit.

This will always make me laugh!

Originally Posted by Enoo

How to express a condition in French:



In the present:
Si + Imperfect + Present conditional:
Si je le voyais, je te le dirais. (If I saw it, I would tell you)
Ø + Present conditional + Present conditional:
Je le verrais, je te le dirais. (same meaning)



In the past:

- the most used:
Si + Pluperfect + Past conditional, 1^st form:
Si je l'avais vu, je te l'aurais dit. (If I had seen it, I wouldhave told you)
Ø + Past conditional, 1^st form + Past conditional, 1^stform
Je l'aurais vu, je te l'aurais dit. (same meaning)

- rarely used and only in books (or when speaking, just for bragging ):
Si + Past anterior + Past conditional, 2^nd form:
Si je l'eus vu, je te l'eusse dit. (same meaning)


A website for French conjugations: http://leconjugueur.lefigaro.fr/ (enter the verb and click on "conjuguer")

Whooooa...c'est vraiment difficile Je dois travailler beaucoup à l'apprendre
Mais merci mon chèr Enoo