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    Quote Originally Posted by Spring View Post
    So.. miki, in Croatian, it's only "plesati" for dancing? or.. something else?
    yeah, it's plesati

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring View Post
    but .. be careful with using it cause it can have tricky meanings.. same like in English

    oces da se igramo? ocemo se igrati? (a grownup to another one - use your imagination
    that is were my confusion stemmed from
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    Okey, I have to admit my kind I listed the words is a bit confusing
    And soory, it seems that I didn't read the topic focused enough, especialy the word "official"...

    I should have marked them if they are not unique, slang, dialect etc. .... but a good thing is made step by step, mostly at least. The list I posted was the first step so to say... so not perfect.

    And I never claimed all I have written is absolutly correct, its just from what I remeber of and what I am thinking its right, so mistakes are likely...

    Here is what I have said:
    "Probably a few are just synonyms, not pretty sure so feel free to discuss or correct me"

    I wrote both in chyrilic as I have no ser-cro keyboard layout on my pc, and my chyrilic one is a macedonian one, so there is no "c" for opcina, I did this allways when somthing was written diffrent to how I was able to write it without that "kvacice i crtice etc." For You its clear, even with the missed stuff but for a non native speaker/ beginner probably not. So I tried to make it clearer this way by using chyrillic.

    My words:
    I have no language pack installed so I have used chyrilic letter where its spelled diffrent from writing."

    As everyone (at least what I saw) was using first the croatian word followed by the serbian I did it this way as well.

    vjetar puse - vetar duva вјетар пуше - ветра дува (where does vetra duva? tell me please) - I think "vetra duva" is said in Serbian... like in the song "duni vetre malo sa neretve..."

    And ciko is well used, if you say "gdje je onaj ciko" you use "ciko", when you say "cika Branko je doso" than you use "cika" - maybe I am wrong, but this is how I learned it.

    zivci - nerve живци - нерве. (I have no idea which language is which in your sequence.. but in Serbian, there is both živci and nervi)
    zivci is used in both languages, but nerve only in serbian.

    Okey, as soon as I find the time for I'll do a better list of the words I've listed, so to stop confusing people and to make it clearer.

    Take it easy folks

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    okay.. peace! lol at least you gave us a discussion start point

    Serbian vetar duva (not vetra duva). Oni duvaju (travu) = They smoke (marijuana). Ja pušim Ronhill = I smoke Ronhill

    gdje je onaj čiko is Croatian and Serbian would be gde je onaj čika?

    I had seen what you said about your keyboard but Latin script is perfectly enough for Croatian (even without kvacice and crtice )

    How/Where did you learn the words btw?

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    Hmmm, I see there is actualy no "...official..." in the topic just "diffrences" so well... but nevermid.

    The words have diffrent sources.... mainly family, surounding, friends and every kind of ex. Yu music. Pick one here pick one there...

    "gdje je onaj čiko is Croatian and Serbian would be gde je onaj čika?"

    Aha okey, didn't know that. Thanks for updating me

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    I have many books in Croatian at home and I'm reading one now, so I'll expose some words I found different. I am not sure how to translate them, so correct me where I'm wrong.

    Miki, ako si mislio na rikverc - voziti unazad - u rikverc, rikverc smer, to koristimo.

    točno - tačno
    uopće - uopšte
    na nj - na nju-njega
    njezin - njen

    teka - sveska
    tjednik - nedeljnik (novine)
    krhke - krhe
    narančaste - narandžaste
    lječnik - lekar, lečnik
    kemikalije - hemikalije
    žalobnik - žalitelj
    sveučilište - škola ili fakultet ?
    krivnja - krivica
    šivaći stroj - šivaća mašina
    škrob - skrob
    prekrižen - prekršćen
    križ - krst
    kršćanska - hrišćanska
    pumphlače (za golf) - pumparice (za golf)
    suosjećanje - saosećanje
    zbiljska reč - istinska reč
    zbilja - zbilja - zaista
    kupalište - kupalište, kupaonica

    dizalo - lift, dizalica
    podvoljak -
    odvjetnik - zastupnik, advokat


    Then there are many verbs:

    općiti - opštiti
    sapeti - sputati
    nadomjestiti - zameniti
    generalizirati - generalizovati

    Then some different word cases and genders:
    držati jezik za zubima - držati jezik za zube
    kraj prljavog sudopera - kraj prljave sudopere
    .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerous & Moving View Post
    Tisuća - hiljada came to my mind
    to my mind it's just came glasba - muzika and nogomet-fudbal
    Eins.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Zwei..hier kommt die Sonne
    Drei.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Vier
    Fünf
    Sechs
    Sieben..
    Acht..
    Neun.....
    Ich hab' keine Lust.

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    I have a candy in my hand, there is HR, BIH on the package and it's said:
    šećer - šećer
    reduciran - redukovan
    bezmasna suha tvar - bezmasna suva materija
    preljeven kakaovim kremom - preliven kakao kremom
    kakaova masa - kakao masa
    sustav - sastav
    sol - so
    sredstvo za rahljenje - sredstvo za dizanje testa

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    minuta (ženski rod na hrvatskom) - minut (muški rod na srpskom)
    I'm stronger than the tricks played on your heart. We look at them together then we take 'em apart. Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ina View Post

    sveučilište - škola ili fakultet ?
    fakultet - university

    Quote Originally Posted by ina View Post
    prekrižen - prekršćen
    what does 'prekršćen' mean in serbian ? in croatian you have 'prekrsten' which is 'to change faith', you sure you didn't mean that ?

    because 'prekrižen' means 'crossed out', in this sense maybe you have a list of names and you crossed out one because you didn't like it, and there is also 'prekriziti ruke' - to make a cross with your arms.

    Quote Originally Posted by ina View Post
    nadomjestiti - zameniti
    there is also zamijeniti

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    kupalište - kupalište, kupaonica
    in croatian "kupalište" is a bathing-resort and "kupaonica" is the bath you have at your home, what is it in serbian ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ina View Post
    dizalo - lift, dizalica
    you can also say 'lift'

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    sveučilište bi na srpskom bilo univerzitet, sveučilište nije fakultet.
    ''Glupost je sama u sebe zaljubljena i njeno je samoljublje bezgranično.''

    ''Siamo niente senza fantasie''

    ''Наверное мне место на луне, но страшно оставаться в темноте''

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    Merhaba - Turkish
    Marhaba - Arabic

    Kupaonica ~ kupatilo, kupalište=kupalište (hamam), ali sam mislila da je u knjizi mislio na kupatilo.

    salam in Arabic is peace
    Salam Aleykum is a greeting too - "peace to you"

    prekrstili - make a cross, to cross, to becross
    prekriziti ruke - prekrstiti ruke - fold your arms

    prekrstiti - to baptize, to christen
    prekstiti svoje ime - to change your name
    pokrstiti se - become a Christian
    Varvari su se pokrstili u hrišćanstvo... Barbarians were made Christians

    Ako pređeš u Islam, recimo, ne možeš da se prekrstiš već preobratiš.

    We have nadomestiti but it's rarely used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangerous & Moving View Post
    sveučilište bi na srpskom bilo univerzitet, sveučilište nije fakultet.
    a koja je razlika između univerziteta i fakulteta?

    edit: + ja sam mislila da marhaba znači dobrodošli (na arapskom)?
    I'm stronger than the tricks played on your heart. We look at them together then we take 'em apart. Adding up the total of a love that's true, multiply life by the power of two.

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    I found more:

    fantazma - fantazija
    zrcalo - ogledalo
    točka - tačka
    također - takođe
    tvar - materija, tvar u filozofiji
    tvoriti - tvoriti, stvarati, sačinjavati
    gol - go
    umjetno - veštačno
    osobno - lično, osobno
    obratno - obratno, obrnuto
    prijašnji - pređašnji
    utjecaj - uticaj
    shvaćanja - shvatanja
    stjecanje - sticanje
    ovisnost - zavisnost
    karizma - harizma
    predodžba - zamisao
    glib - blato, blatište
    ugruhan - ugruvan
    opaćine - grozote
    slušatelj - slušalac
    slušateljstvo - slušaoci; slušalaštvo ?

    djelomično rešenje - delimično rešenje
    vanjski izgled - spoljni izgled
    unutarnji problem - unutrašnji problem
    posve odvojen - krajnje odvojen
    u uzaludnu pokušaju - u uzaludnom pokušaju
    koje čine jezgru - koji čine jezgo
    me obuze posvema - me obuze svog/svuda


    usredočiti se - usredsrediti se
    doimati - imati dojam / utisak
    manipulirati - manipulirati, manipulisati
    legitimizirati - legalizovati
    inzistirati - insistirati
    Last edited by ina; 07-10-2009 at 11:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pthalo View Post
    a koja je razlika između univerziteta i fakulteta?

    edit: + ja sam mislila da marhaba znači dobrodošli (na arapskom)?
    Sveučilište
    http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sveu%C4%8Dili%C5%A1te

    Fakultet
    http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fakultet
    ''Glupost je sama u sebe zaljubljena i njeno je samoljublje bezgranično.''

    ''Siamo niente senza fantasie''

    ''Наверное мне место на луне, но страшно оставаться в темноте''

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    Quote Originally Posted by pthalo View Post
    a koja je razlika između univerziteta i fakulteta?

    edit: + ja sam mislila da marhaba znači dobrodošli (na arapskom)?
    marhaba je nešto kao Ćao.

    Univerzitet se sastoji od više fakulteta i institucija, valjda.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoka View Post
    sevdah - ?
    sevdah - ljubav, ljubavni zanos/polet
    (obavezno da zapamtiš tu reč )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ina View Post
    .....
    My comments @ ina, in bold:

    krhke - krhe (I think that krhke is the correct word in Serbian too)

    žalobnik - žalitelj (žalitelj is also a Croatian word, Serbian is simply - podnosilac žalbe
    CR: sudac, žalitelj, odvjetnik, skrb
    SR: sudija, podnosilac žalbe, advokat, socijalna pomoć

    sveučilište - univerzitet

    Fakultet (Faculty) is a part of univerzitet (University)

    prekrižen - prekršćen ?! prekrižen exists in Serbian as well but with a different meaning .. I sama si kasnije rekla "prekriziti ruke - prekrstiti ruke - fold your arms" so.. I do not think you can say "prekrscene ruke" but "prekrstene ruke". Prekrižena može biti reč na listu papira.
    Prekršten je neko ko je promenio veru (sa t ne sa ć) a ne bih da tvrdim na šta se u CR misli pod prekrižen.

    kupalište - kupalište, kupaonica (kupaonica is not the same as kupaliste, and it's actually a CR word, meaning - bathroom; SR: kupatilo and kupalište is the same and means bathing place - like turkish bath)


    držati jezik za zubima - držati jezik za zube (SR is also držati jezik za zubima and not ..za zube)

    umjetno - umetnuto (doesn't umjetno mean veštačko? EN: artificial)
    osobno - osobito (doesn't osobno mean lično?! EN: personally)

    prijašnji - pređašnji (maybe prethodni)

    predodžba - zamisao (I believe predožba is ideja EN: idea)

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    umjetno - umetnuto (doesn't umjetno mean veštačko? EN: artificial)
    osobno - osobito (doesn't osobno mean lično?! EN: personally)
    true
    ''Glupost je sama u sebe zaljubljena i njeno je samoljublje bezgranično.''

    ''Siamo niente senza fantasie''

    ''Наверное мне место на луне, но страшно оставаться в темноте''

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    Thanks D&M

    And.. i just saw this:
    Quote Originally Posted by miki444 View Post
    fakultet - university

    what does 'prekršćen' mean in serbian ? - nothing
    in croatian you have 'prekrsten' which is 'to change faith' - same in Serbian (npr. iz pravoslavne u katolicku i obrnuto)

    because 'prekrižen' means 'crossed out', in this sense maybe you have a list of names and you crossed out one because you didn't like it, and there is also 'prekriziti ruke' - to make a cross with your arms. - yep.. SR: prekrizen, precrtan

    there is also zamijeniti - SR: zameniti

    in croatian "kupalište" is a bathing-resort (same in SR) and "kupaonica" is the bath you have at your home, what is it in serbian ? - already answered that one..

    you can also say 'lift'

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    Here's something that might be interesting.. There are examples with their Croatian/Bosnian variant on one side and Serbian on the other side. Although I must say that there are some examples they listed as being Croatian although I'd equally use them in Serbian. e.g.
    Croatian/Bosnian
    Imas li ga ti?
    Serbian
    Da li ga ti imas?

    And no wonder I don't know what is correct anymore... There's Croatian:
    za moga brata
    opposite to Serbian and Bosnian
    za mog brata

    I could bet that in all languages "za mog" used to be correct

    Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, a textbook: with exercises and basic grammar

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    Well, it's also Croatian : Moga, Mojega
    While Serbian is: mog/mojeg

    On je video mojeg (acc. masc. sing.) ujaka = He saw my uncle.
    On se plaši mog ujaka (gen. masc. sing.) = He is afraid of my uncle.


    But, to be honest, I'd use "mog" in both cases and regarding mojega, it reminds me of "sve moj do mojega" Which tells us it's also used in Serbian although I believe it's not correct.

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