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    Default Learning Albanian language

    Italics is Tosk Albanian, and regular script is Gheg

    Hello // Tungjatjeta //

    Good Morning // Mirėmėngjes //

    Good Evening // Mirėmbrėma //

    Good Night // Natėn e mirė //

    Good Day // Mirėdita //

    Good-Bye // Ditėn e mirė //

    How are you? // Si je (Plural: Si Jeni) //

    How is he? // Si ėshtė ai //

    How is she? // Si ėshtė ajo //

    How are they? // Si janė ata //

    Where are you going? // Ku shkon? //

    When are you going? // Kur do tė shkosh //

    What time is it? // Ora sa ėshtė //

    What's up? // Ē'bėn? //

    Nothing. // Asgjė //

    Thank-you // Faleminderit //

    You're Welcome // Ska pėr se //

    How's it going? // Si kalon? //

    What did you do today? // Ē'far ke bėrė sot? //

    Call me (later) // Mė thirr nė telefon (mė pastaj) //

    See you later // Shihemi mė vonė //

    Take care // Kujdesu pėr veten //

    Send (my) regards // Bėji tė fala (nga mua) //

    The list will grow, if you want to know how to say something, just ask and we will translate it for you and add it to this list : )

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    Default Learning Albanian language

    So I'll beg somebody of the moderators to remove that list here so you can post all the learning stuff in this thread.You know, the more ordered it is, the better job is done
    Eins.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Zwei..hier kommt die Sonne
    Drei.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Vier
    Fünf
    Sechs
    Sieben..
    Acht..
    Neun.....
    Ich hab' keine Lust.

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    The list was posted before you opened this topic so, it looks now like Balkaneuro opened it but I hope you don't mind..
    And anyway, now you can collect all Albanian learning stuff here ..

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    Hello // Tungjatjeta // Tungjatjeta

    Good Morning // Mirėmėngjes // Mirėmėngjes

    Good Evening // Mirėmbrėma // Mirėmbrėma

    Good Night // Natėn e mirė // Natėn e mirė

    Good Day // Mirėdita // Mirėdita

    Good-Bye // Ditėn e mirė // Ditėn e mirė

    How are you? // Si je (Plural: Si Jeni) // Qysh je (Pl. Qysh Jeni)

    How is he? // Si ėshtė ai // Qysh ėshtė ai

    How is she? // Si ėshtė ajo // Qysh ėshtė ajo

    How are they? // Si janė ata // Qysh janė ata

    Where are you going? // Ku shkon? // Ku po shkon

    When are you going? // Kur do tė shkosh // Kur po shkon

    What time is it? // Ora sa ėshtė // Sa ėshtė ora

    What's up? // Ē'bėn? // Qka bane?

    Nothing. // Asgjė // Kurgja

    Thank-you // Faleminderit // Faleminderit

    You're Welcome // Ska pėr se // Ska pėr se

    How's it going? // Si kalon? // Qysh po kalon?

    What did you do today? // Ē'far ke bėrė sot? // Qka ke ba sod?

    Call me (later) // Mė thirr nė telefon (mė pastaj) // Thirrum ne telefon (ma von)

    See you later // Shihemi mė vonė // Shihemi mė vonė

    Take care // Kujdesu pėr veten // Kujdesu pėr veten/ Kalofsh mir

    Send (my) regards // Bėji tė fala (nga mua) // Bėji tė fala (nga mua)

    *Alot of Gheg speakers understand and use "Si je, Si ėshtė ai/ajo ...etc" instead of the "Qysh je" phrases
    Ti nuk gjen dot forcen tme shohesh ne sy ndihem i lenduar kur jemi te dy.

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    hmm may I ask sth? so that "gheg" is what Albanians out of Albania speak and the another is what Albanians in Albania speak?
    Eins.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Zwei..hier kommt die Sonne
    Drei.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Vier
    Fünf
    Sechs
    Sieben..
    Acht..
    Neun.....
    Ich hab' keine Lust.

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    Balkaneuro, RrushiiTushii, thanks so much for this thread!! Your help is very-very useful))

    I'd like to know gheg analogs of these phrases:
    Une do te shkoj/Ti do te shkosh/Aj do te shkoje/Ne do te shkojme/Ju do te shkoni/Ata do te shkojne

    I heard they differ a lot in two dialects.

    @tedinkyyy hmm, I think gheg is spoken in Kosovo and northern Albania, and tosk - in southern Albania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spring View Post
    The list was posted before you opened this topic so, it looks now like Balkaneuro opened it but I hope you don't mind..
    And anyway, now you can collect all Albanian learning stuff here ..
    No problem : D Thank you for making the new thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by haydee View Post
    Balkaneuro, RrushiiTushii, thanks so much for this thread!! Your help is very-very useful))

    I'd like to know gheg analogs of these phrases:
    Une do te shkoj/Ti do te shkosh/Aj do te shkoje/Ne do te shkojme/Ju do te shkoni/Ata do te shkojne

    I heard they differ a lot in two dialects.

    @tedinkyyy hmm, I think gheg is spoken in Kosovo and northern Albania, and tosk - in southern Albania.
    haydee is right tedinkyy, tosk is spoken among albanians in albania and albanians mostly from southern albania, and southern macedonia, gheg is spoken in the north of albania, all of kosova, and in northern macedonia
    then montenegro's dialect is somewhat similar to gheg but different, whereever else there is Albanians their language is closer to tosk

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    Whenever you get the chance RushiiTushii update this with gheg also, for haydee, i'm not sure if its different or totally the same in gheg

    Future Tense

    I will go // Unė do tė shkoj //

    You will go // Ti do tė shkosh //

    He will go // Ai do tė shkojė //

    She will go //Ajo do tė shkojė

    We will go // Ne do tė shkojmė //

    You will go (Plural) // Ju do tė shkoni //

    They will go // Ata do tė shkojnė //

    Present Tense

    I am going // Unė shkoj //

    You are going // Ti shkon //

    He is going // Ai shkon //

    She is going // Ajo shkon //

    We are going // Ne shkojmė //

    You are going (Plural) // Ju shkoni //

    They are going // Ata shkojnė //

    Past Tense

    I went // Unė shkova/ Unė ika //

    You went // Ti shkova/ Ti ike //

    He went // Ai shkoj //

    She went // Ajo shkoj //

    We went // Shkuamė ne //

    You went (Plural) // Shkuatė ju //

    They went // Ata shkuanė //
    Last edited by Balkaneuro; 08-24-2009 at 11:20 AM.

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    Wonderful new thread. Personally I prefer discussion of grammatical questions. (You can always look up a word in the dictionary). One question: several verbs admit two different endings -oj and -ohem. What's the function of the -ohem variant?

    Example:
    afroj = to come nearer, to approach
    (unė) do t'afroj = I will come nearer

    but Meda sings somewhere
    do t'afrohem

    Or is this just a gheg/tosk thing too?

    B.t.w.: is 'ti skon' a typo? (could it be 'ti shkon'?)

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    :S I had really decided to left Albanian for a bit later cuz now I'm gonna learn 2 languages at the same time at uni (if Croatian and Serbian can be considered 2 different ) but ok, I'll ask for some things too
    so I think Tung is a more used and more informal way of 'hi", am I right? Cuz I can't imagine ppl in everyday-life when meeting at the street to say "Tungjatjeta" lol
    also can you tell us how is mother and father, I think father is like the Turkish word (baba) but well better see it here
    Eins.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Zwei..hier kommt die Sonne
    Drei.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Vier
    Fünf
    Sechs
    Sieben..
    Acht..
    Neun.....
    Ich hab' keine Lust.

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    Future Tense

    I will go // Unė do tė shkoj // Unė po shkoj

    You will go // Ti do tė shkosh // Ti po shkon

    He will go // Ai do tė shkojė // Ai po shkon

    She will go //Ajo do tė shkojė Ajo po shkon

    We will go // Ne do tė shkojmė // Ne po shkojmė

    You will go (Plural) // Ju do tė shkoni // Ju po shkoni

    They will go // Ata do tė shkojnė // Ata po shkojn

    Present Tense

    I am going // Unė shkoj // Unė shkoj

    You are going // Ti shkon // Ti shkon

    He is going // Ai shkon // Ai shkon

    She is going // Ajo shkon // Ajo shkon

    We are going // Ne shkojmė // Ne shkojmė

    You are going (Plural) // Ju shkoni // Ju shkoni

    They are going // Ata shkojnė // Ata shkojnė

    Past Tense

    I went // Unė shkova/ Unė ika // Unė shkova/ Unė ika

    You went // Ti shkova/ Ti ike // Ti shkove/ Ti ike

    He went // Ai shkoj // Ai shkoj

    She went // Ajo shkoj // Ajo shkoj

    We went // Shkuamė ne // Ne shkumė

    You went (Plural) // Shkuatė ju // Ju shkutė

    They went // Ata shkuanė // Ata shkunė


    And as for Tung and Tungjatjeta both are pretty formal although Tung is more informal then Tungjatjeta but people use both daily, its not that hard to say Tungjatjeta.

    && Mother - Nėnė or Mamaja and now many just use Mom
    Father is the same like turkish Baba or Babai
    Ti nuk gjen dot forcen tme shohesh ne sy ndihem i lenduar kur jemi te dy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RrushiiTushii View Post
    Future Tense

    I will go // Unė do tė shkoj // Unė po shkoj

    You will go // Ti do tė shkosh // Ti po shkon

    He will go // Ai do tė shkojė // Ai po shkon

    She will go //Ajo do tė shkojė Ajo po shkon

    We will go // Ne do tė shkojmė // Ne po shkojmė

    You will go (Plural) // Ju do tė shkoni // Ju po shkoni

    They will go // Ata do tė shkojnė // Ata po shkojn
    So simple! Basically, you just use present tense instead of future. Hmm, than what is "me shkue"? I thought it is future tense of "I will go"

    @cortom I believe that -hem endings are like adding "oneself" to English word. For example, une laj = I wash and une lahem = I wash myself. There is similar thing in Russian, and maybe in other Slavic languages.

    @tedinkyyy I hope you'll return to Albanian some day

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    @ RrushiiTushii : no,not that tungjatjeta is hard to say but it's just a bit long and we Bulgarians always prefer the shortest possible forms,so I guessed it's that way everywhere and I've met "tung" more often

    @ haydee: hehe of course, it's one of my favourite languages now and you see, even now when I know I shouldn't take up with a new one, I'm still cuirous xD

    mm so Albanian has 3 tenses, I mean not as English which has 10000 (and Bulgarian as well lol)?
    Eins.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Zwei..hier kommt die Sonne
    Drei.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Vier
    Fünf
    Sechs
    Sieben..
    Acht..
    Neun.....
    Ich hab' keine Lust.

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    @tedinkyyy, I counted like 5 past tenses actually O_o. I don't know if they all are used in real life though. And there are also lots of moods.
    How many tenses does Bulgarian have? Maybe they are similar to those in Albanian.
    Haha, English now seems so easy comparing to Albanian...

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    Lyuba, in Bulgarian there are about 5 past tenses too As I know, in Russian there's only 1 Actually Bulgarian has many tenses and it appears that Albanian too
    Eins.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Zwei..hier kommt die Sonne
    Drei.. hier kommt die Sonne
    Vier
    Fünf
    Sechs
    Sieben..
    Acht..
    Neun.....
    Ich hab' keine Lust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedinkyyy View Post
    Lyuba, in Bulgarian there are about 5 past tenses too As I know, in Russian there's only 1 Actually Bulgarian has many tenses and it appears that Albanian too
    Yeah, we have 1 past tense and 2 aspects of it - perfect and imperfect.

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    yes it was a typo it is "shkon"

    it is not a gheg tosk thing this is how you use it:

    "do t'afroj" is like an unfinished sentence you must say "do t'afrohem" which means i will come closer.

    example "do ta afroj kete shok" i will make this friend closer "do ta largoj kete shok" i will distance this friend. "do t'afrohem tek puna" i will get closer (make my way) to work

    you can also say 'te afroj" or "do te afroj" i will bring you closer

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    @Haydee: you're an amazing student, you know. You seem to make lightning progress. And yes, I found a list of reciprocal verbs (... oneself) all of which - with very few exceptions - have an '-hem' ending. So you're probably right on that.

    @Everyone: maybe you know it, maybe you don't, but here you can find a tremendously useful online Albanian dictionary: http://www.argjiro.net/fjalor/

    Then I have this very short (too short) Albanian grammar of which I understand practically nothing. It lists no less then three patterns of inflection for the present tense.

    One pattern is labeled (V): j / n / n / jmė / ni / jnė

    That's easy: it's just the pattern for the verb 'shkoj', and (V) stands for 'open vowel' ending of the stem, of course.

    Second pattern [C] - / - / - / im / ni / in

    I guess [C] stands for 'closed consonant'-ending. E.g. 'jap' (=give)

    unė jap
    ti jap
    ai/aio jap
    ne japim
    ju japni
    ata japin

    Third pattern: <M> em / esh / et / emi / eni / en

    I found 'bėhem' (=become) as an example:

    unė bėhem
    ti bėhesh
    ai/aio bėhet
    ne bėhemi
    ju bėheni
    ata bėhen

    But I wonder, what does the label <M> stand for? Any idea? My guess for now <M> is a case between open and closed ending. And would 'afrohem' follow the same pattern (unė afrohem, ti afrohesh, ... etc.)?
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    it's "ata behen" not "ata behet" maybe you just made a typo

    and yes it is the same for afrohem "ata afrohen" etc.

    not sure what u mean by the [M] thing

    : )

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