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    yes I would be anee you're most welcome
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    Enjoy this remake of an old Iraqi song: Sghayron>Bashar Al-Qaisi:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W-4XYy_ic
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post
    Enjoy this remake of an old Iraqi song: Sghayron>Bashar Al-Qaisi:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W-4XYy_ic
    I can't see it! It's blocked where I live
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    Quote Originally Posted by citlalli View Post
    I can't see it! It's blocked where I live
    With me, too huh, well...whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jihan View Post
    I ??? Anii, or what?




    Thanks a lot
    I say "Ane" not "Ani" so there are many dialects
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post
    Enjoy this remake of an old Iraqi song: Sghayron>Bashar Al-Qaisi:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W-4XYy_ic
    I loved this song..
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    The hours of pain have yielded good,
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post
    the file is not there but i know the song its so nice and soft!

    @sohuda: here the english phonics it may helps you to clarify how to pronounce words
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English


    ah by the way i was in the bookstor today and just found this amazing book teaching Iraqi dialcet in english its amazing book with detailed description for how words prononced even with examples and conversations.. i put it on my buying list and whats most great about it IT IS IN ENGLISH

    The essential language Guide for contemrari iraqi- Iraqi Phrasal book- By-Yasin M.Alkalesi Ph.D
    Sometimes, Silence can be so LOUD..

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    Quote Originally Posted by incriptedtruth View Post

    ah by the way i was in the bookstor today and just found this amazing book teaching Iraqi dialcet in english its amazing book with detailed description for how words prononced even with examples and conversations.. i put it on my buying list and whats most great about it IT IS IN ENGLISH

    The essential language Guide for contemrari iraqi- Iraqi Phrasal book- By-Yasin M.Alkalesi Ph.D
    If it comes to this, I can recommend two books from George Town University Press, one is called "A Basic Course in Iraqi Arabic" (with Audio), another "Modern Iraqi Arabic" (Textbook)...but they are pretty expensive

    And it's always helpful to have a native speaker around

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    Quote Originally Posted by incriptedtruth View Post
    the file is not there but i know the song its so nice and soft!

    @sohuda: here the english phonics it may helps you to clarify how to pronounce words
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English


    ah by the way i was in the bookstor today and just found this amazing book teaching Iraqi dialcet in english its amazing book with detailed description for how words prononced even with examples and conversations.. i put it on my buying list and whats most great about it IT IS IN ENGLISH

    The essential language Guide for contemrari iraqi- Iraqi Phrasal book- By-Yasin M.Alkalesi Ph.D
    well if you already know the song, then no prob

    hmm I know a general idea about phonics but never have I studied, so I can't use them~

    and that'd be awesome if you buy a book, and therefore learn in a professional way, however if you have any questions, you're welcome any time to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post
    well if you already know the song, then no prob

    hmm I know a general idea about phonics but never have I studied, so I can't use them~

    and that'd be awesome if you buy a book, and therefore learn in a professional way, however if you have any questions, you're welcome any time to ask.


    Ofcourse sohuda, the book will only teach main basic stuff, but for voc and other popular expressions no one would do it better than a native speaker like Jihan said ( ma nesta3'ni) beside i like interactive education more
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    Quote Originally Posted by incriptedtruth View Post
    the file is not there but i know the song its so nice and soft!

    @sohuda: here the english phonics it may helps you to clarify how to pronounce words
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English


    ah by the way i was in the bookstor today and just found this amazing book teaching Iraqi dialcet in english its amazing book with detailed description for how words prononced even with examples and conversations.. i put it on my buying list and whats most great about it IT IS IN ENGLISH

    The essential language Guide for contemrari iraqi- Iraqi Phrasal book- By-Yasin M.Alkalesi Ph.D
    Wow, That is very good in my opinions, because you can learn it better.. I didn't have an idea about that there was Iraqi teaching books
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post

    hmm I know a general idea about phonics but never have I studied, so I can't use them~
    Already there are many sounds in Arabic which don't have any equivalent in English (or another European language) and it's quite laborious to me to have Arabic written in phonetics and to learn it from that, as phonetics itself is like a complete new language/writing. One can help oneself quite good with Latin.

    But maybe we can just list all Arabic letters with their pronounciation and how sohuda or somebody else will write it in Latin letters. I mean, here in the forum, there is already some kind of convention how to describe certain Arabic sounds in Latin writing.

    So, sohuda, Dear, just go ahead with some Iraqi expressions, what about salutation???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jihan View Post
    Already there are many sounds in Arabic which don't have any equivalent in English (or another European language) and it's quite laborious to me to have Arabic written in phonetics and to learn it from that, as phonetics itself is like a complete new language/writing. One can help oneself quite good with Latin.

    But maybe we can just list all Arabic letters with their pronounciation and how sohuda or somebody else will write it in Latin letters. I mean, here in the forum, there is already some kind of convention how to describe certain Arabic sounds in Latin writing.

    I second this!!
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    @Jihan&Leyla: ok Great!!
    @Jihan:
    So, sohuda, Dear, just go ahead with some Iraqi expressions, what about salutation???
    ok, sorry for not giving a lesson for awhile, just been busy with school!

    I have already mentioned in my previous posts here about saluts in Iraqi! check them out, and if you want more, lemme know
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    Default Lesson 3

    Prepositions in Iraqi:
    under=jawwa
    (جوّا)
    eg: jawwa el shejra =under the tree
    -in Arabic "ta7t=تحت" is used, however it is not used in Iraqi-

    above/up=fog
    (فوق)
    eg: fog el nakhal=above the palm trees

    beside=near=yam
    (يم)
    yammi=near me

    in front of=gedam
    (قدام)
    eg: gedam el mabna= in front of the building

    behind=waraa
    (ورا)
    waraa el bait=behind the house
    -originally in Arabic it is وراء but in Iraqi the Hamza isn't really pronounced!-



    I hope that I haven't forgotten any prepositions~

    Now starting to teach you weird Iraqi words, maybe used in other dialects, but not much! starting today with "bed", more to come in later posts!

    -bed=//(chorbaya*)
    جرباية

    أو(or)

    (8aryola)
    //قريولة

    and of course "sareer=سرير" is used but not much!

    random info:
    a lot=kolesh or hwaya
    كلش أو هواية

    a little=shwaya
    شوية


    *of a Turkish origin "karyola", I think!
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    hehe thtas funny
    we say
    جوا=jawwa
    in the meaning of inside

    keep going sohuda and more of those common expressions pleeeeeeease
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    Sorry, if I interfer, but what about conjugation, ya3eni, how to say for example "I go, you go, he goes, she goes..." (or any other verb) in present, past and future tense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by incriptedtruth View Post
    hehe thtas funny
    we say
    جوا=jawwa
    in the meaning of inside

    keep going sohuda and more of those common expressions pleeeeeeease
    we too use it as both "inside" and "under"
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    Default Lesson 4

    He goes> (hwa) yroo7
    he's going> (hwa) raye7
    he went> (hwa) ra7
    he'll go> (hwa) ra7 yro7

    she goes>(heya) tro7
    she's going> (heya) ray7a
    she went> (heya) ra7at
    she'll go> (heya) ra7 tro7

    I go> (anee) aroo7
    I'm going> (anee) ray7a
    I went> (anee) re7et
    I'll go> (anee) ra7 aroo7

    We go> (e7na) nroo7
    we're going> (e7na) ray7een
    we went> (e7na) re7na
    we'll go> (e7na) ra7 nroo7

    They go> (homa) yroo7on
    they're going> (homa) ray7een
    they went> (homa) ra7aw
    they'll go> (homa) ra7 yroo7on

    female:
    you go> (enti) troo7een
    you're going> enti ray7a
    you went> (enti) re7ti
    you'll go> (enti) ra7 troo7een

    male:
    you go> (enta) troo7
    you're going> (enta) ra7 tro7
    you went> (enta) re7et
    you'll go> (enta) ra7 troo7

    *hope that's what you wanted Jihan> and you're most welcome to ask whatever you want
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