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    check out this hilarious video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYKBPvjj68I
    The hours of pain have yielded good,
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    Spread fragrance when they’re bruised.

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    Default Lesson 5 - Goodbye

    Saying goodbye:
    we use "ma3alsalama", "bye", "byebye",
    and "femanellah".. we use the latter mostly, it's a pure Iraqi expression, however it is arabic:
    في امان الله
    fee aman allah
    May you be in Allah's safety and protection

    however none but Iraqis use it as a farewell, it's pronounced as "femanellah"

    Take care:
    for a female:
    deery balech 3la nafsech=ديري بالج على نفسج

    for a male:
    deer balak 3la nafsak=دير بالك على نفسك

    for a group of people:
    deero balkom 3la nafeskom=ديرو بالكم على نفسكم
    The hours of pain have yielded good,
    Which prosperous days refused;
    As herbs, though scentless when entire,
    Spread fragrance when they’re bruised.

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    FYI: shlonak "sheno lawnak" means literally: what is your colour?
    so if you wanna impress someone, when they ask you "shlonak//shlonech", say "a7mar/waree/azrag/aswad/abyath/.." or any colour that comes up to your mind
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    Spread fragrance when they’re bruised.

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    Hallaw!!!

    Q: Is the iraqi grammar basically the same as in fo97a? If not, could you explain to us the main differences? (take your time, there's no rush... and thanks a lot for everything )
    “If cats looked like frogs we'd realize what nasty, cruel little bastards they are. Style. That's what people remember.” ― Terry Pratchett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post
    FYI: shlonak "sheno lawnak" means literally: what is your colour?
    so if you wanna impress someone, when they ask you "shlonak//shlonech", say "a7mar/waree/azrag/aswad/abyath/.." or any colour that comes up to your mind


    is this a trick sohuda? :P

    BTW iloved the video LOL
    Sometimes, Silence can be so LOUD..

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    Quote Originally Posted by incriptedtruth View Post
    is this a trick sohuda? :P

    BTW iloved the video LOL
    yeah it is, y3ni shlonak could be interpreted as sheno lawnak, so it would be "what's your colour" however it's originally like that when you want to ask "how are you" but they both are pronounced the same way, so it "is" a trick.. to impress people

    yeah, the video is wicked!
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    Spread fragrance when they’re bruised.

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    LOL, I don't know how I missed the video earlier on, but I've just watched it and it's really hilarious as you said thanks Hud Hud
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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post
    *hope that's what you wanted Jihan> and you're most welcome to ask whatever you want
    Yeah, that's what I meant...maybe you can do it with another verb again? (I mean to see the differences between strong and weak verbs...)

    And this one: he's going> (hwa) raye7

    What will be the equivalent in Fus7a to this tense??? I guess I am a blockhead

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    huda, how close is iraqi dialect fro quaiti? is there huge difference or close?
    BTW
    Happy islamic newyear to you all
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    Quote Originally Posted by incriptedtruth View Post
    huda, how close is iraqi dialect fro quaiti? is there huge difference or close?
    BTW
    Happy islamic newyear to you all
    Hmmm.. Maybe I can explain it, my friend.. Iraqi and Kuwaiti have many things in common but we can't understand everything they say.. But there are a differece.. you will notice it when you hear them both.. I mean the way they talk..


    Happy Islamic new year to you too, my dear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulin View Post
    Hmmm.. Maybe I can explain it, my friend.. Iraqi and Kuwaiti have many things in common but we can't understand everything they say.. But there are a differece.. you will notice it when you hear them both.. I mean the way they talk..


    Happy Islamic new year to you too, my dear

    i see, too bad no chance to compare since there is no iraqi series as much as ( Kuwaiti)or other arabic countries
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    Quote Originally Posted by incriptedtruth View Post
    huda, how close is iraqi dialect fro quaiti? is there huge difference or close?
    BTW
    Happy islamic newyear to you all
    yellow! I only have time to answer one question! sorry for not replying to your questions, will do so at the weekend inshallah~
    it's an important question, coz Kwaiti dialect is very similar to iRaqi! however you can distinguish between them, Kwaiti dialect is more khaliji, plus they say "y" for "j" but we say "j" like: ana yaya (I'm coming) in Iraqi it would be "anee jaya"! For us Iraqis it is easy to distinguish them, however like you said there aren't much Iraqi shows, or Iraqi people speaking Iraqi, coz most of Iraqis who are outside of Iraq tend to speak a dialect that would be easy for everyone to understand, that's why you don't hear it on tv much!

    and happy new hijri year to you too
    The hours of pain have yielded good,
    Which prosperous days refused;
    As herbs, though scentless when entire,
    Spread fragrance when they’re bruised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post
    yellow! I only have time to answer one question! sorry for not replying to your questions, will do so at the weekend inshallah~
    it's an important question, coz Kwaiti dialect is very similar to iRaqi! however you can distinguish between them, Kwaiti dialect is more khaliji, plus they say "y" for "j" but we say "j" like: ana yaya (I'm coming) in Iraqi it would be "anee jaya"! For us Iraqis it is easy to distinguish them, however like you said there aren't much Iraqi shows, or Iraqi people speaking Iraqi, coz most of Iraqis who are outside of Iraq tend to speak a dialect that would be easy for everyone to understand, that's why you don't hear it on tv much!

    and happy new hijri year to you too
    Yes, Good explaining
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    Dear sohuda,

    could you conjugate examples for strong and weak verbs, just to see how it works. e.g.

    mahmooz:
    -sa'ala سأل (and maybe a note here on the pronounciation of hamza)
    -akhaza أخذ

    mithal:
    -wasala وصل
    - (I don't seem to know a proper verb with ya in the beginning...maybe yaqidha يقظ (to be wakeful)? or ya'isa (to despair)?)

    mudaa3f:
    - shadda شدّ

    ajwaf:
    - qaala قال
    - baa3a باع
    - naama نام
    - ja'a جاء

    naaqes:
    - mashaa/mashaya مشى
    - da3aa دعا

    lafeef:
    - kawaa/kawaya كوى
    - wafaa وفى

    Or just use some words which are actually utilized in Iraqi dialect, I don't know if all of the above certainly are...just took it from my knowledge of Fus7a. ;-)

    Thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohuda View Post
    yellow! I only have time to answer one question! sorry for not replying to your questions, will do so at the weekend inshallah~
    it's an important question, coz Kwaiti dialect is very similar to iRaqi! however you can distinguish between them, Kwaiti dialect is more khaliji, plus they say "y" for "j" but we say "j" like: ana yaya (I'm coming) in Iraqi it would be "anee jaya"! For us Iraqis it is easy to distinguish them, however like you said there aren't much Iraqi shows, or Iraqi people speaking Iraqi, coz most of Iraqis who are outside of Iraq tend to speak a dialect that would be easy for everyone to understand, that's why you don't hear it on tv much!

    and happy new hijri year to you too
    thanks for the explanation,ill start to concentrate from now on to get the differences between the 2 of them
    waiting for more of your lessons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jihan View Post
    If it comes to this, I can recommend two books from George Town University Press, one is called "A Basic Course in Iraqi Arabic" (with Audio), another "Modern Iraqi Arabic" (Textbook)...but they are pretty expensive

    And it's always helpful to have a native speaker around
    where can i buy them ? is there an internet site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by incriptedtruth View Post
    the file is not there but i know the song its so nice and soft!

    @sohuda: here the english phonics it may helps you to clarify how to pronounce words
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English


    ah by the way i was in the bookstor today and just found this amazing book teaching Iraqi dialcet in english its amazing book with detailed description for how words prononced even with examples and conversations.. i put it on my buying list and whats most great about it IT IS IN ENGLISH

    The essential language Guide for contemrari iraqi- Iraqi Phrasal book- By-Yasin M.Alkalesi Ph.D
    same question to you can i buy them in an internet-store??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahra91h View Post
    where can i buy them ? is there an internet site?
    www.amazon.com , Dear.

    But I think the one from George Town University Press can be ordered directly from there:

    http://www.press.georgetown.edu/deta...=9781589010116

    http://press.georgetown.edu/detail.h...=9781589011304

    And maybe also from www.onlineislamicstore.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahra91h View Post
    same question to you can i buy them in an internet-store??
    well, jihan already answered amzon.com
    direct link here

    http://www.amazon.com/Iraqi-Phrasebo.../dp/0071435115
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    thank you both very much :-*

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