Learning Persian and common questions

Originally Posted by Uglyrainbow

Can anyone please translate this
Fazam Che khobe Emshab

Tonight I am in a good mood

Can cou translate for me the following words into farsi:

today I am in a green mood // Only green courage will make sure the sun will rise one day//
without pain//
thus I will be in a green mood tomorrow and the day after tomorrow too
untill friendship and humanity have a chance to live
in a green, peaceful environment

Originally Posted by amaryn

Can you translate for me the following words into farsi:

today I am in a green mood // Only green courage will make sure the sun will rise one day//
without pain//[COLOR="darkgreen"]
thus I will be in a green mood tomorrow and the day after tomorrow too
untill friendship and humanity have a chance to live
in a green, peaceful environment

these green thoughts in Farsi will sound like music in my ears and hopefully in the ear of many others!

s of many others!

Originally Posted by amaryn

these green thoughts in Farsi will sound like music in my ears and hopefully in the ear of many others!

s of many others!

Hi Amaryn
I tried my best to translate it as good as the original one. Here I assume you use Green as the Color (The symbol of Iranian protesters):

Emrouz SABZ hastam//Tanha reshadati SABZ az toloe'e khorshid motmaen mishavad//bedoune dard//pas man farda ham SABZ khaham boud va pasfarda ham hamchenin// ta zamani ke dosti va ensaniyat shanse zendegi dar mohiti SABZ va aram dard

امروز سبز هستم//
تنها رشادتی سبز از طلوع خورشید مطمئن خواهد شد//
بدون درد//
پس من فردا هم سبز خواهم بود و پس فردا هم همچنین//
تا زمانی که دوستی و انسانیت شانس زندگی در محیطی سبز و آرام را دارد

Originally Posted by saminjv

Hi Amaryn
I tried my best to translate it as good as the original one. Here I assume you use Green as the Color (The symbol of Iranian protesters):

Emrouz SABZ hastam//Tanha reshadati SABZ az toloe'e khorshid motmaen mishavad//bedoune dard//pas man farda ham SABZ khaham boud va pasfarda ham hamchenin// ta zamani ke dosti va ensaniyat shanse zendegi dar mohiti SABZ va aram dard

امروز سبز هستم//
تنها رشادتی سبز از طلوع خورشید مصطمئن خواهد شد//
بدون درد//
پس من فردا هم سبز خواهم بود و پس فرادا هم همچنین//
تا زمانی که دوستی و انسانیت شانس زندگی در محیطی سبز و آرام را دارد

Very beautiful and poetic translation, thank you so much Samin. You know English and Persian poetry so nice.

God Bless You.

Chetoreh,
How do i say in farsi "dont tell me lies"
and what is the word for "someone"

Mersi!

Originally Posted by bollyking

Chetoreh,
How do i say in farsi "dont tell me lies"
and what is the word for "someone"

Mersi!

You're welcome my friend,

At first for "how are you", you should say "Chetori" or "Chetorid" (More formal or the plural form). "Chetoreh" means "how is he/she"

"Don't tell me lies" = "Behem (beh man) doroogh nagoo"

"Someone" = "Yeki", "Yeh Nafar", "Kasi", "Shakhsi" (formal)

Originally Posted by veryclever1980

Very beautiful and poetic translation, thank you so much Samin. You know English and Persian poetry so nice.

God Bless You.

Bless you indeed and thank you! I will learn to understand it in Farsi and your effort to help has been very appreciated

Mersi Veryclever

Originally Posted by HFK

Mersi Veryclever

You're welcome my friend. I'm so happy I can help people here.

Is it so that though you write raftan (to go) you pronounce it as raeftaen (rèftèn), goftan (to say)as goftaen, and many, many other examples, Bijan?
At least this is stressed in www.easypersian.com

Originally Posted by amaryn

Is it so that though you write raftan (to go) you pronounce it as raeftaen (rèftèn), goftan (to say)as goftaen, and many, many other examples, Bijan?
At least this is stressed in www.easypersian.com

Hi
I believe an Esfahani person suggested that (Esfahan is one of the biggest city in Iran). People from esfahan has their own accent in which they pronounce A like ae. The infinitive form of those verbs pronounced as they are written.
But when you want to say "you went to the party" (you refere to more than 1 person) it will be translated "Shoma be mehmani raftid" which in an informal form changes to "raftin mehmoni" this "raftin" will be pronounce (r^fti:n) (I tried to use english phonetic, so ^ means a short A sound)

Hope it helps

hi! is this also true for the "oo" sound (which they write as "u"?

Again happy to hear about it! So doostam and "khoobi" written as "dustam and "khubi" are pronounced as long or short "o"?

Originally Posted by amaryn

hi! is this also true for the "oo" sound (which they write as "u"?

Again happy to hear about it! So doostam and "khoobi" written as "dustam and "khubi" are pronounced as long or short "o"?

Amaryan Jan
khoobi and doostam must be pronounce long "o", sometimes people have some problem with writing in Pinglish (persian with english alphabet) for example they might write khobe instead of khoob. I myself do not use "u" very much in Pinglish

It is better for you to learn reading Farsi alphabets too. When you read Farsi alphabet there would not be any doubt about these pronunciations.
Have a nice day

Saminjv! It would be Dinglish then as I am Dutch, but this webside "easypersian" mixes me up
Thanks again for the help! More questions on their way soon!

your humble student Amaryn

there's another question: earlier on this thread someone asked to translate:

what do you like? = shoma chi doost derid/shoma be che chizi alaghe darid?
what don't you like? =chi doost nadari?/az chi khoshet nemiyad?

questions: what is the verb: "to like" (infinitiv) and the basic root
what is the past tense root of "to like"
are there two different verbs for "to like"?
in the negative form: does the subject not come at the beginning?

what is the infinitiv of "to study" in Farsi?
"where do you study"=koja dars mikhooni?

Kheyli mamnoon

let's see... to like...
two constuctions i know are
subject object doost daashtan
and
az english object khosh+(pronomial enclitic for the english subject) aamadan. (present root of aamadan is aa)

pronomial enclitics are am, et, esh, eshoon, emoon, etoon (before the transformations to colloquial they are am, at, ash, eshaan, etaan, emaan)

also, for the second one, the verb is always going to be singular third person

ex.
man havij doost daram
az havij khosham miaayad.

man karafs doost nadaram
az karafs khosham nemiaayad

to study=dars khoondan (khaandan before transformation)

hm.. hope that's clear. and i'm fairly sure it's correct! hah oh well.. i've only had one semester of studying farsi

Originally Posted by amaryn

there's another question: earlier on this thread someone asked to translate:

what do you like? = shoma chi doost derid/shoma be che chizi alaghe darid?
what don't you like? =chi doost nadari?/az chi khoshet nemiyad?

questions: what is the verb: "to like" (infinitiv) and the basic root
what is the past tense root of "to like"
are there two different verbs for "to like"?
in the negative form: does the subject not come at the beginning?

what is the infinitiv of "to study" in Farsi?
"where do you study"=koja dars mikhooni?

Kheyli mamnoon

Dinglish was good
About the question : "To like" literally means "alaghe dashtan" (علاقه داشتن) and "to love" means "doost dashtan" (دوست داشتن) but unlike English there is not much difference between like and love in Farsi. For example when some English speaking person says I like you they mean I like you as a friend but when they says I love you it definitely means I love you as a partner or family member. But in Farsi for both situations the person will say "Dooset daram" (دوستت دارم)
Actually "Alaghe dashtan" (علاقه داشتن) is not very common in daily bases conversations.

Doost dashtan is an infinitive form and the present form for single person is "Doost daram" (دوست دارم) and the past form for single person is "Doost dashtam" (دوست داشتم) .

Now about the subject, in both positive and negative forms subject is optional. Because in Farsi, the verbs shows the subjects (like Spanish and French, I am not sure but I heard German is like this too) so in daily bases subjects will be dropped unless you want to emphasis on the subject or want to be more polite. Being more polite is used just for single 2nd person.

The infinitive form of to study is "dars khandan" (درس خواندن)

Remember if you drop the N (ن) from an infinitive form you will have a third person singular in past form. Example: Doost dashtan - n = doost dasht , which is third person singular (past form)

Hope this helps

Great explanations Saminjv and mix. There is not much left to say. You've said it all.

It does help indeed, and questions come up all the time, as I study some Farsi daily now. If this continues with your support guys, I will soon make this my favourite language and my favourite thread