Speaking of accents and all.. I remember learning back in eighth grade(now I'm a Senior in high school D: ), that there are different countries that pronounce the "ll," double 'L' differently. I don't remember which country pronounces which way. But I do remember that one country pronounces it as I believe as "ch?" Correct me if I'm wrong. ><;; It'd be resourceful to know considering I'm going into Spanish for College because I'll more than likely have to study abroad. And the last thing I want is to not speak in a way that the country is not consistent with.

Originally Posted by countthestars_x

Speaking of accents and all.. I remember learning back in eighth grade(now I'm a Senior in high school D: ), that there are different countries that pronounce the "ll," double 'L' differently. I don't remember which country pronounces which way. But I do remember that one country pronounces it as I believe as "ch?" Correct me if I'm wrong. ><;; It'd be resourceful to know considering I'm going into Spanish for College because I'll more than likely have to study abroad. And the last thing I want is to not speak in a way that the country is not consistent with.

there probably is. there's all kinds of accents since there's so many different countries that speak spanish. i've heard somebody pronounce y/ll as the j in english. he said ya and it sounded like ja (only a little different, i can't explain the exact sound in english since there's nothing like it)

Originally Posted by countthestars_x

Speaking of accents and all.. I remember learning back in eighth grade(now I'm a Senior in high school D: ), that there are different countries that pronounce the "ll," double 'L' differently. I don't remember which country pronounces which way. But I do remember that one country pronounces it as I believe as "ch?" Correct me if I'm wrong. ><;; It'd be resourceful to know considering I'm going into Spanish for College because I'll more than likely have to study abroad. And the last thing I want is to not speak in a way that the country is not consistent with.

Yeah, in most Central American countries (I think) they pretty much just use the "yeh" sound for the y & ll, but some do use the "jeh" sound.

I believe the "jeh" sound is more common in South America though.

& in Argentina & Uruguay we use the "zheh" sound, like how the j is pronounced in French.

Then you get the people who get carried away in these two countries that pronounce it like "sh", haha. But some do use the "jeh" when we speak quickly.

So...

Basically, you can use the "yeh" & "jeh" in any country & in Argentina & Uruguay you can use "jeh" & "zheh"...& even "sh" if you wanna sound even more native lol.

Hope that wasn't too confusuing

i want to learn spanish more then anything...i learned when i was younger and i moved with my dad. no one spoke spanish so i forgot it by the time i was 10.
but i'd LOVE to learn.

Originally Posted by koreanmami

i want to learn spanish more then anything...i learned when i was younger and i moved with my dad. no one spoke spanish so i forgot it by the time i was 10.
but i'd LOVE to learn.

the way i learned (and am still learning):
took it in school (which didn't help much)
used spanish teaching websites (ask and i'll give you some links)
i only hang out with hispanics, so it starts to become natural and i developed an accent
the most important thing was listening to reggaeton/spanish rap. it helped me to learn to understand when they speak fast, plus it helps with slang. that's the main place i got my accent from too (mimicking the sound of dominicans and puerto ricans)

Originally Posted by dmoney101

the way i learned (and am still learning):
took it in school (which didn't help much)
used spanish teaching websites (ask and i'll give you some links)
i only hang out with hispanics, so it starts to become natural and i developed an accent
the most important thing was listening to reggaeton/spanish rap. it helped me to learn to understand when they speak fast, plus it helps with slang. that's the main place i got my accent from too (mimicking the sound of dominicans and puerto ricans)

yea i know what you mean. where i live there is nothing but mexicans,
i mean i love it. i always have so much fun and i listen to a lot of reggeaton
and spanish music. i have larned more then when i started out, its just taking
sometime to really grasp it.
and i'd love to get some of thoughs websites, por favor

Originally Posted by koreanmami

yea i know what you mean. where i live there is nothing but mexicans,
i mean i love it. i always have so much fun and i listen to a lot of reggeaton
and spanish music. i have larned more then when i started out, its just taking
sometime to really grasp it.
and i'd love to get some of thoughs websites, por favor

ok, the sites i used to get started were

http://www.ielanguages.com/spanish.html
and
http://learnspanish.elanguageschool.net/
then i googled about any specific question about grammar i had

Originally Posted by dmoney101

ok, the sites i used to get started were

http://www.ielanguages.com/spanish.html
and
http://learnspanish.elanguageschool.net/
then i googled about any specific question about grammar i had

Thankx for the links that's great!! I at the moment am using some audio books like Michel Thomas and Lingua phone which are great ! I like Michel Thomas He really is good , I have learned so much from him. Also Spanish for dummies is not bad but I have to admit , Michel Thomas is the best. But if you ask me , I speak 3 languages at the moment and learned all without difficulty. For example I learned Greek by reading Greek comic books for children which helped with the grammar allot. But I have to say the best way to learn any language is to have a boyfriend that speaks that language. Ha Ha ( had to put that in there)

Originally Posted by Katrocks

Thankx for the links that's great!! I at the moment am using some audio books like Michel Thomas and Lingua phone which are great ! I like Michel Thomas He really is good , I have learned so much from him. Also Spanish for dummies is not bad but I have to admit , Michel Thomas is the best. But if you ask me , I speak 3 languages at the moment and learned all without difficulty. For example I learned Greek by reading Greek comic books for children which helped with the grammar allot. But I have to say the best way to learn any language is to have a boyfriend that speaks that language. Ha Ha ( had to put that in there)

i can't stand listening to audio tapes like Michel Thomas or Pimsleur because their accents sound so weird (Michel always has terrible accents in every language he teaches) and they usually only teach the usted form of words which isn't very useful in an everyday conversation.

Originally Posted by dmoney101

i can't stand listening to audio tapes like Michel Thomas or Pimsleur because their accents sound so weird (Michel always has terrible accents in every language he teaches) and they usually only teach the usted form of words which isn't very useful in an everyday conversation.

Yes I do agree with the accent bit, but the tapes I have cover all verb forms. He does start with the usted but then gradually gets to the tu's. But he has helped me allot with the verbs.

Originally Posted by Katrocks

Yes I do agree with the accent bit, but the tapes I have cover all verb forms. He does start with the usted but then gradually gets to the tu's. But he has helped me allot with the verbs.

ok, that's good. i was probably thinking of the pimsleur program. it only teaches usted (at least, as far as i went, i quit after a few of them :P)

Hi Zahra!!!

Anyone? .... I used to listen to some Mexican music, to help me learn and remember words and phrases, for my purposes in the U.S. and regional travel. Pero, hace muchos a&#241;os!! I've lost track of my taste in Mexican music, so to speak

So now, who? .....

I used to love Tish Hinojosa, and a couple of male groups who were 'folk' singers, but not 'too' folksy. And I also like .... country-rock? That would be the American description .... ok ok, I'll confess ... I also used to love Los Tejas Tornados, with Freddy Fender. But I also LOVE classical Spanish guitar.

Oh, and Santana!

So after bearing my very soul, can anyone suggest music for me? Preferably with decent Spanish lyrics and reasonably good grammar, suitable for an 'older gentleman'?

Thanks for any tips!!

Tambi&#233;n:

Is there an "easy" lesson for the proper use of -se? I don't even remember what I need to ask ... passive/active, transitive/intransitive, like that?

Also objective and other non-subject pronouns?

Xiurell or Zahra? Zahra, you're from Mexico, and I've learned most of my Spanish from Mexican friends, but also a little Puerto Rican, with rare and tiny doses of Colombian and Venezuelan ... a little confusion

But anyway, I've gotten some great refresher classes from this sticky already, and I appreciate all of it, and thanks for any additional help!

can somebody explain to me what hechate means? i heard it in the phrase "hechate pa'lla" which to me sounds like "make yourself over there" lol

Echar means to add, or throw or toss. Like, "Voy a echar unas cebollas en la olla." "I'm gonna throw some onions in the pot". Or "Echame la pelota" for "Throw me the ball".
But in the context you stated "echate para alla" means literally "throw your self over there" but really means "scoot over" or "move over".

M&#250;sica101, Xiurell? Zahra

Lessons have been FANTASTIC! But it's been a few days. Will there be more?

Do I sound impatient? Lo siento ...

Originally Posted by damarys

Echar means to add, or throw or toss. Like, "Voy a echar unas cebollas en la olla." "I'm gonna throw some onions in the pot". Or "Echame la pelota" for "Throw me the ball".
But in the context you stated "echate para alla" means literally "throw your self over there" but really means "scoot over" or "move over".

oh, i thought it meant made since the only time i ever heard it was in "Hecho En Mexico"

Originally Posted by dmoney101

oh, i thought it meant made since the only time i ever heard it was in "Hecho En Mexico"

Little spelling mistake, that's why...

"Hecho en México"= Hecho is the past participle of the verb "hacer" (to make)

"Echate pa'lla"=Echate is the imperative of "echar" (to throw, to toss)

The confusion is probably due to the fact that, as you surely know, we don't pronounce the "h" at all in Spanish

Originally Posted by citlalli

Little spelling mistake, that's why...

"Hecho en México"= Hecho is the past participle of the verb "hacer" (to make)

"Echate pa'lla"=Echate is the imperative of "echar" (to throw, to toss)

The confusion is probably due to the fact that, as you surely know, we don't pronounce the "h" at all in Spanish

well then was the other explanation wrong because the word was spelled as héchate, or was the spelling in the phrase wrong?

yes, the spelling was wrong... what damarys wrote is completely right