Learning Romanian language

o seara buna va doresc la toti....scuze de mass..papapa...
hello can anyone translate it to me.. thank u...

Originally Posted by timothyjason04

o seara buna va doresc la toti....scuze de mass..papapa...

I wish you all a good/nice evening... sorry for the "mass"... bye bye bye...

By "mass" the person refers to a mass-message, a message one automatically sends to everybody in their messenger, msn, etc list.

Ok, let's see:

Originally Posted by DeBaires

Esti uimitora, e adevarat!!!

The feminine form of the adjective is uimitoare

uimitor(masc, sg)-- uimitori (masc, pl)
uimitoare(fem, sg)-- uimitoare(fem, pl) (same for for sg. and pl.)

Originally Posted by DeBaires

The context is from 2 songs

"Arde invidia in tine de-o viata"

"Privirea ta de-o vreme, ca doua stele lumineaza cerul meu"

In both contexts, de-o is to denote time.

De o viata-- for a life time

I've known him for a life time-- Il cunosc de-o viata.

De-o vreme-- De o vreme--> For some time now.

I've worked here for some time now-- Lucrez aici de-o vreme.

So, de-o can have refer to time.

It can refer to the place:

On one part/side or the other-- De-o parte sau de alta.

It can also refer to quantity:

Give me money for a bear-- Dă-mi bani de-o bere. (Very informal)

It can refer to quality:

It's of a bad quality-- E de-o calitate slabă/proastă

It can refer to the agent (passive voice with feminine agent)

It's made by a girl--Este făcut de-o fată.


And if I remember some other uses that I missed now, I'll edit the post

Mersi!!!

Originally Posted by DeBaires

OK, nu te necăjeşte, te rog!!!

Esti făcând toate lucrurile de aici, ha ha.

Ok, now let's corrcet this one

1. nu te necăji

2. Esti făcând I realise you translated this straight from English:

You are doing:
You are: Ești
doing: făcând

Wrong! One important piece of information is this:

Romanian language does not have the continuous aspect of the verb!

Whatever you say in English using the continuous aspect, you translate in Romanian keeping only the tense. With one exception and that is the Past tense.

Present Tense Continuous in English = Present Tense(Prezent) in Romanian
You are doing= Tu faci

Future Cont-- Future (Viitor)
You'll be doing= Tu vei face

Present Perfect Cont= Past Tense OR Present (since Romanian does not have an equivalent for Present Perfect)
You have been doing- Ai făcut/ faci

Past Perfect Cont= Past Perfect (Mai mult ca perfect)
You had been doing= Tu făcusei

Exception
Past Tense Continuous in English= Imperfect in Romanian
You were doing= Tu făceai

While Past Tense Simple in English = Past Tense (Perfect Compus) in Romanian
You did= Tu ai făcut

Hi to all there
I love Romania but languare for me like china
Thk to all who translate for me songs and..well thk

i have some questions: what the difference between the verb a dori and a lipsi..
for example: i miss your kisses, can use both of verbs?
can I say: mi e dor de tine and imi lipsesti for i miss you?

Originally Posted by faratine

i have some questions: what the difference between the verb a dori and a lipsi..
for example: i miss your kisses, can use both of verbs?
can I say: mi e dor de tine and imi lipsesti for i miss you?

Hi
The verb " a dori " is "I wish" , "I would like"
The verb " a lipsi" express something that I haven't now but I wish to have.
I wish to understand that " As dori sa inteleg asta"
But miss (it is not present when called or looked for) a teacher " Dar imi lipseste un profesor "
I hope that help

Tiberiu's explanation is very good

I want to add something realetd to the verb a lipsi- to miss

First of all, yes: mi-e dor de tine and Imi lipsesti both mean I miss you.

But the verb a lipsi has two different grammatical uses for each of the meaning Tiberiu mentioned:
1. I don't have something but I wish to have it
2. the idea of not being present.

The first one is always used with a pronoun in the Dative case and the verb conjugated accordingly to the person/object that one misses.


The pronoun form are as follows:
1st person sg = Îmi
2nd person sg. =Îți
3rd person sg. = Îi
1st person pl. = Ne
2nd person pl. = Vă
3rd person pl. = Le

The verb a lipsi is conjugated in present tense as followsȘ
1 sg. Lipsesc
2 sg. Lipsești
3 sg. Lipsește
1 pl. Lipsim
2 pl. Lipsiți
3 pl. Lipsesc

Now, in order to express the first meaning Tiberiu referred to, you have to combine the pronoun with the right person of the verb, according to who misses what/whom

Therefore: I miss you is a combination between the pronoun for the 1st person sg. and the verb form for the 2nd person singular: Îmi lipsești.

Random exmaple: They miss her. According to the pattern I explained before: pronoun for the 3rd person plural + verb for the 3rd person sg--> Le lipsește

And now, the second meaning of the verb: someone/something is not present.
In order to express it, you only use the verb alone. No pronoun.

(Eu) lipsesc=> I'm absent
Lipsește => He/she is absent

and so on.

thanks dya, thanks tiberiu..acum am inteles..

Hey everyone.

What do "arat" & "atat" mean?

I know "atat" means "so much" but there's a song & the lyrics go "Vreau o noapte doar atat, si nimic mai mult." What does it mean in that context?

Also, is the reflexive for you (pl.) va? If so, is that also the reflexive for you formal?

I guess what I'm asking is, is "voi" used for you (pl.) & you formal?

One more thing; how do you pronounce "îi" & hwo do you use it?

Originally Posted by DeBaires

What do "arat" & "atat" mean?

arăt is the 1st person sg, present tense of the verb a arăta -- to show

atât is an adverb and can have various translations according to the context: as much, so much, nothing more, so, only that, etc

Originally Posted by DeBaires

I know "atat" means "so much" but there's a song & the lyrics go "Vreau o noapte doar atat, si nimic mai mult." What does it mean in that context?

Yes, you're right, that's one of the translations.

In that verse, atât is translated as only that " I want a night, only that, and nothing more"

Originally Posted by DeBaires

Also, is the reflexive for you (pl.) va? If so, is that also the reflexive for you formal?

Yes and yes to both your questions

Originally Posted by DeBaires

I guess what I'm asking is, is "voi" used for you (pl.) & you formal?

Yes again. By formal we actually mean politeness. Which means that we address someone not with the second person sg, but with the second person plural.

And, yes, all the forms of the second person plural pronoun apply whether we we use it for plural or politeness.

Originally Posted by DeBaires

One more thing; how do you pronounce "îi" & hwo do you use it?

îi is the Dative case for the 3rd person singular pronoun.
Îi spun-- I tell her/him
Îi arăt-- I show him/her

ALSO, the SAME form(îi) is the Accusative case for the 3rd person plural!!!
Îi văd--I see them
Îi întreb-- I ask them

As for the pronounciation.... though one! If you go to the first page of this thread, you'll find there some tips I wrote for the pronounciation of these sounds we have in Romanian.

But I admit: it's very difficult to explain how to pronounce a two letters word, in which one letter is impossible to describe and the other one is an ordinary i?! (i read as "ee" in English, I don't know what's your native language, so I don't know how you actually pronounce i.)

î.... the closest description I can come up with is that sound you make when you try to list some heavy weight! LOL!

Once again, dya, you have come to my rescue, ha ha, thanks so much!!!

& just a little side note, my native language is Spanish

You're welcome

Originally Posted by DeBaires

& just a little side note, my native language is Spanish

Oh, good! That means I don't have to tell you how to pronounce i, u, etc cause it's the same

Exactly! & I know a little italian so the whole "ce/ci", "ch" & "ge/gi" is no problem either!

Perfect!

Now, you asked about an imprerative form in another thread and I'll write that explanation here, so it can be accesible to others too:

The imperative for the second person singular is Știi! (incidentally, it's the same form like for the present tense - tu știi) but the verb in itself can't actually be used in imperative. Imperative is about giving a command/order and the meaning of the verb is "against" this. You can't order someone to know!

(This in opposition with, for example, to say= (a spune). The imperative for the second person sg is Spune! Well, this verb allows for an imperative as you can order someone to say (something). )

Oooooh, lol. OK, I think I got it.

ma numesc Kaylee (:

i'm coming to romania next month to be an exchange student. this discussion is very helpful in learning the language, since i don't know much yet.

i was wondering if you could think of any phrases or words that i will probably need to know when first talking to my host family? my host dad speaks english, but my mother and sister don't.

MULTUMESC MULT

hello all i would like to thank the admin and all the memebers of this site for they are helping bridge the language gap

and to say a very heartful thank you to the romanian section i would like to share this song video with all of you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr81Gob7_Ns

Hello, Jaan and welcome here Thank you for the video and for the meaning you gave it when you posted it here

@ Kaylee: We would gladly help you with any phrase you may need, but first write it here in English. We'll translate it/them and give you the explanations. We're waiting