Bulgarian pop-folk

Originally Posted by lopatka

Because it's plural :P No matter the gender, when it's plural it always ends in "i -- te":

Език
Езици
Езиците

Жена
Жени
Жените

oh i knew that. like "ochi" - Eyes. and "och" - eye right?

and when it ends in "ite" doesnt that mean "the..."?
like, "Zhenite" doesnt that mean "The Women?" or something?

Yep :] the ending "Te" means "the .......s (plural)" :]

"Och" Ohhhh ... so cute Eye is "око" :P

hahahah


why is "eye" "oko" and "eyes" "ochi"?????? I thought you just added an "i" at the end? haha

It just changes, I don't know why. There are many words that don't follow the rules for forming plural forms: "ум" - "умове", "мъж" - "мъже"; "ухо" - "уши"; "нож" - "ножове" .... I've never thought about that before, but I think they tend to be in the masculine gender :} Maybe someone who's studied philology can explain for us, the unenlightened :P

hahha interesting!!

trust me, we have PLENTY and PLENTY of words like that in english.

I trust u cause I've been studying Englsh for 12 years and I've seen thousands of words in it...sometimes u have so crazy words,especially crazy spelled

oh, we could make a BIG list of words that are crazy

Yeah, you, the both, are right.

I enjoy our verb "цвърча" very much or "мърморя";"бърборя";"жужа";"бръмча" ...they sound so cool

i like any word with "ъ" in it

Originally Posted by PROPEL

i like any word with "ъ" in it

This is the most bulgarian sound

Also, for a lot of people, that 'ъ' is a parasitic word in their speech.

Originally Posted by PROPEL

hahahah


why is "eye" "oko" and "eyes" "ochi"?????? I thought you just added an "i" at the end? haha

because it has a group of some consonants that change in other group and than in a third group Yes, you understood I write it don for you, so you can understand it better

г->з->ж
к->ц->ч
х->с->ш

But why is that change, I can`t tell you. I`ll tell you later, when I check in some science literature

im still a bit confused by that chart thing.

could you give me an example from that chart please?

Originally Posted by NyLoN_BoY

This is the most bulgarian sound

I'm glad that this sound also exists in Turkish. I know a lot of German friends who do not manage to speak that sound properly.

It's always a funny question to answer, when they ask me to explain HOW I produce that sound in my mouth.

I just say, speak a long "i"-sound (like in bee), you "feel" the sound in the front part of your mouth. So while still pronouncing that "i" try to move that sound a little bit to the back of your mouth.

A linguist might say, that this is nonsense... but this is the way, how I think an "i" mutates to that typical Bulgarian sound. I think that this sound really has a relation to an "i"... maybe that's why we, in Turkish write in with an "ı"... so it's just an "i" without a dot.

Originally Posted by PROPEL

im still a bit confused by that chart thing.

could you give me an example from that chart please?

This is how I think about Nylon Boys chart:

г->з->ж
к->ц->ч
х->с->ш

I think these are the results of historical sound mutations, that occur in every language.

If those mutations would not have taken place, many languages would still be as they were spoken hundreds of years ago.
Maybe in the past the plural of "oko" was really "oki"... but it changed.

I think, in Bulgarian I will still have to learn the plural form for each new word, but when it comes to words that end in г к х, I should not be surprised if they sometimes change that last sound, to one of the two others in their own row.

so г might mutate in з or sometimes into ж

when it comes to words that end in з, they might sometimes change that sound to ж.

At least this is how I interprete Nylon Boys comment, but maybe he can enlighten us. .-)

In many slavic languages exist the word"oko"and it always is"ochi"in plural.
Propel, he wants to explain that some words ending at these sounds transform into the others.
for example:
ръка - a hand
ръце- hands
ръчен - made by hands

монах - a monk
монаси - monks
монашески - monastic

съпруг - husband
съпрузи - husbands/or a couple
съпружески - marital

oh i get it now...

so this:

г->з->ж
к->ц->ч
х->с->ш

just explains the word endings?

Monah -> Monasi -> Monasheski

"х->с->ш"


am I understanding that correctly?

Yes, Propel, you understood it. Bravo

I forgot bout the example, sorry

Originally Posted by tedinkyyy

cyrillic alphabet rulzzz yeah I'm glad it hasn't crossed our minds to turn to latin (like Serbians)

lol yeh, I hate it when I'm looking for lyrics of a Bulgarian or Macedonian song, and it's written in Latin... Coz i get confused when I read it in Latin, it's annoying lol