Hi,

I need help to understand the verses below :

في سفحنا العرزال..
يرف سحري الغصون

I think the sequence of words is reversed and the correct sequence would be :

العرزال في سفحنا يرف سحري الغصون

My attempt : The branches gently/magicaly brush the chalet/mountain hut at our foothill

Thanks in advance

Originally Posted by gbasfora

Hi,

I need help to understand the verses below :

في سفحنا العرزال..
يرف سحري الغصون

I think the sequence of words is reversed and the correct sequence would be :

العرزال في سفحنا يرف سحري الغصون

My attempt : The branches gently/magicaly brush the chalet/mountain hut at our foothill

Thanks in advance

Anyone ?

Originally Posted by gbasfora

Hi,

I need help to understand the verses below :

في سفحنا العرزال..
يرف سحري الغصون

I think the sequence of words is reversed and the correct sequence would be :

العرزال في سفحنا يرف سحري الغصون

My attempt : The branches gently/magicaly brush the chalet/mountain hut at our foothill

Thanks in advance

i'd like to help u but i'm a native Arabic speaker and believe me i don't understand what that means

let's try though, what confuses me in these lines is the "ي" in the word "سحري", in this case it either means "my magic" or "magical" so it doesn't fit, and if we suppose "العرزال" means "hut" cause it's the 1st time i ever hear this word, so in this case it'd be "the hut is in our foothill, the branches brush my magic", i'm not sure at all

Originally Posted by mvnr2

i'd like to help u but i'm a native Arabic speaker and believe me i don't understand what that means

let's try though, what confuses me in these lines is the "ي" in the word "سحري", in this case it either means "my magic" or "magical" so it doesn't fit, and if we suppose "العرزال" means "hut" cause it's the 1st time i ever hear this word, so in this case it'd be "the hut is in our foothill, the branches brush my magic", i'm not sure at all

Thank you Mvnr2. Actualy those verses are from a song in Fus7a . According the dictionaries 3rzal means chalet / small house / gazebo / mountain hut.
"sa7ry" is really a problem.I've found out another version of the lyrics and instead of سحري it's written سحريا. Doest it make more sense ?

I think Firas is best for this to be honest so I was waiting for him

Originally Posted by gbasfora

Hi,

I need help to understand the verses below :

في سفحنا العرزال..
يرف سحري الغصون

I'm inclined to think it's se7r of the 3'soon

Originally Posted by VivaPalestina

I think Firas is best for this to be honest so I was waiting for him



I'm inclined to think it's se7r of the 3'soon

I guess it is really se7r instead of eather se7ry or se7rya. I have another version ( the third one) where it is written se7r.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg-LrYtS9aY

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v0TFonIc0Y


The lyrics :

بعدنا....
من يقصد الكروم
من يملأ السلال
من يقطف الدوالي؟

بعدنا...!
هل تنزل النجوم
تلهو على التلال..
في هدأة الليالي؟

في سفحنا العرزال..
يرف(????) سحري الغصون

وساحة الأظلال
في شجوها طيبٌ حنون
أرضنا هنا وربعنا
وحيث همنا وانتشينا
سحرها لنا وحلمنا
فإن رحلنا ومضينا

George - it would still be pronounced se7ri el 3'soon so that could explain the spelling

Originally Posted by VivaPalestina

George - it would still be pronounced se7ri el 3'soon so that could explain the spelling

Thank you Viva. It's really explains the spelling and as it is a fus7a song so that final "i" must indicate the genitive. But how to translate se7ri el 3'soon ? and what about the whole verse ?

في سفحنا العرزال يرف سحر الغصون
وساحة الأظلا ل في شجوها طيبٌ حنون

Originally Posted by gbasfora

Thank you Viva. It's really explains the spelling and as it is a fus7a song so that final "i" must indicate the genitive. But how to translate se7ri el 3'soon ? and what about the whole verse ?

في سفحنا العرزال يرف سحر الغصون
وساحة الأظلا ل في شجوها طيبٌ حنون

The huts in the valley (at the base)
are touched by the magic of the branches?

Originally Posted by gbasfora

Thank you Viva. It's really explains the spelling and as it is a fus7a song so that final "i" must indicate the genitive. But how to translate se7ri el 3'soon ? and what about the whole verse ?

في سفحنا العرزال يرف سحر الغصون
وساحة الأظلا ل في شجوها طيبٌ حنون

doesn't it: سحر الغصون is mobtada2 mo2akhar ? maybe it read as se7ro el 3'soon as mobtada2 should be marfo3, right?... sorry if i stick my nose and made wrong deduction and lol maybe u hate i3rab things

Originally Posted by aila

doesn't it: سحر الغصون is mobtada2 mo2akhar ? maybe it read as se7ro el 3'soon as mobtada2 should be marfo3, right?... sorry if i stick my nose and made wrong deduction and lol maybe u hate i3rab things

Ok when someone mentions i3rab that's the cue for me to leave and take a backseat and wait for the pros like Firas and Oriee to come

Originally Posted by aila

doesn't it: سحر الغصون is mobtada2 mo2akhar ? maybe it read as se7ro el 3'soon as mobtada2 should be marfo3, right?... sorry if i stick my nose and made wrong deduction and lol maybe u hate i3rab things

I love I3rab the mostt in Arabic

The sentence is like يرف سحر الغصون في سفحنا العرزال
It's not Mobtada2 ..
يرف : verb (fe3l) فعل مضارع مرفوع بالضمة
سحرُ : fa3el فاعل مرفوع و علامة رفعه الضمة
الغصونِ : modaf ileh مضاف إليه مجرور بالكسرة

Originally Posted by LoOlya

I love I3rab the mostt in Arabic

The sentence is like يرف سحر الغصون في سفحنا العرزال
It's not Mobtada2 ..
يرف : verb (fe3l) فعل مضارع
سحرُ : fa3el فاعل مرفوع
الغصونِ : modaf ileh مضاف إليه مجرور

tayb I wrote that and then decided ana 3am batfalsaf w khaleeni sakte

Originally Posted by aila

doesn't it: سحر الغصون is mobtada2 mo2akhar ? maybe it read as se7ro el 3'soon as mobtada2 should be marfo3, right?... sorry if i stick my nose and made wrong deduction and lol maybe u hate i3rab things

Dont even think about it !! you are always welcome. But she really says se7ri el3'ousoun سِحْرِ ٱلْغُصوُنْ

Originally Posted by gbasfora

Dont even think about it !! you are always welcome. But she really says se7ri el3'ousoun سِحْرِ ٱلْغُصوُنْ

Sometimes in poems or songs they don't really care about i3rab .. to make the rhyme sounds good .. maybe this is the reason

lol, i totally wrong indeed... but yea i heard it ddoesnt need to follow the arabic grammar rules when it comes to poems.

Originally Posted by LoOlya

I love I3rab the mostt in Arabic

The sentence is like يرف سحر الغصون في سفحنا العرزال
It's not Mobtada2 ..
يرف : verb (fe3l) فعل مضارع مرفوع بالضمة
سحرُ : fa3el فاعل مرفوع و علامة رفعه الضمة
الغصونِ : modaf ileh مضاف إليه مجرور بالكسرة

My last attempt : The charm/magic of the brunches flutters at the foot of our hut. Is it still wrong ? H E L P !!!!

Originally Posted by gbasfora

My last attempt : The charm/magic of the brunches flutters at the foot of our hut. Is it still wrong ? H E L P !!!!

No! It's true

Originally Posted by LoOlya

No! It's true

Thanks GOD !!

And what about the other verse :
في سفحنا العرزال يرف سحر الغصون
وساحة الأظلال في شجوها طيبٌ حنون

Anyone ?

At least the meaning of طيبٌ حنون. I've found out many phrases on the net with that expression :

1) هناك انسان مزاجي طيب حنون .. لا يمكنني اكمال يومي بدووونه

2) العنيدة والعنيفة واضافت اني ابحث عن رجل طيب حنون وكريم مستقل يحبني ويهتم

3) ادرى انك تحملين قلب طيب حنون لان هالكلام ما يطلع الا من نفس صافيه محبه للخير

4) لقد غمرني إحساس متدفِّقٌ بالحزن والألم لرحيل أب طيب حنون، جمع بشكل