Originally Posted by NyLoN_BoY

greek

Originally Posted by LadyDiamond.дама диамант

is it?

No, it's not. Greeks (and Bulgarians) use it pretty often, that's true, however "bravo" comes from Italian, lit. "brave, bold". As a cheer, "well done!," dates from the 18th century. Superlative form is bravissimo.

NyLoN_BoY, no originally Greek word starts with МП.

Originally Posted by crazytofik

i think chao and aide it's generally slavonic

Neither. "Ciao" is Italian and "aide" is a borrowing from Turkish.
Both words are common in everyday use in Greece as well (the first one being replaced by "bye" or "aide bye", while Bulgarians say "aide ciao").

Well, we should remember that French was lingua franca till the 20th century, and especially of Europe's higher classes and diplomacy. It became widely used during the Bulgarian National Revival or the Bulgarian Renaissance.
Besides, "merci" is shorter. :P It's informal, though.

Originally Posted by panselinos

Neither. "Ciao" is Italian and "aide" is a borrowing from Turkish.
Both words are common in everyday use in Greece as well (the first one being replaced by "bye" or "aide bye", while Bulgarians say "aide ciao").

I didn't mean what I wrote I know that chao comes from italian ciao, come on, I mean that every slavonic language took it, doesn't matter where it is placed, in the south, east or west :P

But you have to admit that ку*ва и х*й are slavonic words haha

Well, Greek is certainly not a Slavic language. People seem to have affection for short words.

Actually, there is no "chao", it is simply a crooked "ciao".

Originally Posted by crazytofik

But you have to admit that ку*ва и х*й are slavonic words haha

I don't have to admit anything of the kind.

P.S. Alright, seriously now. "Ky*ва" really is a panslavic word, it exists in (almost) all Slavic languages. The language it originates from is Old Bulgarian, though.
Here we go: In Old Bulgarian (and even some modern dialects) КОУРЪ means "rooster, сосk". /Bulg. кур; Ukr. кур; Slovene kùr, gen. kúra; Czech kour, kur; Slovak kúr, Pol. kur = rooster, сосk/.
The word is a reflex of the IE root *kaur-, that occurs in the (rare) Latin caurio, and the Lithuanian kurti, kauriu, which means "to scream, yell, shout".
In Middle Bulgarian the semantic development led to the result rooster, сосk => membrum virile. As of today, in Bulgarian к*р is vulgar for "pe*is" (cf. Fr. coq -> En. сосk). "Rooster" is "петел".

"Ку*ва" comes from *КОУРЫ, КОУРЪВЕ with the suffix *-ъв- for the feminine correspondence (as in СВЕКРЫ, СВЕКРЪВЕ). Perhaps initially the word meant "hen", but with the changing of the meaning of КОУРЪ, its meaning changed as well.

you're very clever

actually we still use word kur for rooster and kurcze (kurche) for chicken

Originally Posted by LadyDiamond.дама диамант

you're very clever

Hardly. Just... etymologies is something I deal with quite a bit.

Originally Posted by crazytofik

actually we still use word kur for rooster and kurcze (kurche) for chicken

That's what I'm talking about. In Russian "hen" is "kuritsa".

These 'offensive' words had once meant something else, that is "rooster" and "hen". Funny, isn't it?

hahaha

Очевидно не съм толкова умна, щом не знам как да разбирам последното хахакане. :d

anyone fancy teaching me bg for a bit?

OMG guys....programme on chanel 4 right now they have takeb 3 forgein people outta jobs (cheff, farmer....etc) and replaced them with english for a week whom are un empolyed and the stupid english havent even turned up to the job their wasting their opertunity their idoits!!!!!!!!!! so lazy no wonder forgeiners take the jobs if i was a business woman id empoly forgein works too.....god i have the english they give a bad name for the few good english people....if i was gave a job id work way hard and i wouldnt care about the pay tbh...gees these people are annoying me they complain and moan bout forgeiners taking their jobs but HELLO they dont even want to work!!! gees the english are such idoits im ashamed to be called English!!!!!!

I love everything about England.

Originally Posted by panselinos

i love everything about england.

omg please tell me your joking? Whyyyyyyyyyyyy????????//

Originally Posted by panselinos

i love everything about england.

А Гърция ?

Originally Posted by tedinkyyy

А Гърция ?

Tediii i'm in shock how can one like such a place? :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Originally Posted by LadyDiamond.дама диамант

Tediii i'm in shock how can one like such a place? :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

the grass is always greener....

Originally Posted by tedinkyyy

А Гърция ?

Обичам Гърция, разбира се, но по различен начин.

Originally Posted by LadyDiamond.дама диамант

omg please tell me your joking? Whyyyyyyyyyyyy????????//

Not a bit of it. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Milton, Wilde, Byron, Carroll, Kipling, Waugh, Golding, Milne, Durrell, Lewis, Tolkien, Pratchett...
History, art, culture, language... What's not to love about England?


P.S. And Paul Bettany

In fact, almost all of my favourite writers, actors and musicians are British. Even my signature is a quote from an English book. A very English one, I'd say.

Originally Posted by panselinos

Not a bit of it. Shakespeare, Chaucer, Milton, Wilde, Byron, Carroll, Kipling, Waugh, Golding, Milne, Durrell, Lewis, Tolkien, Pratchett...
History, art, culture, language... What's not to love about England?

although i'm not someone who hates my own country like lady diamond, it might be worth pointing out that "traditional" england, the country that produced the bulk of those writers, and the majority of our classical literature, doesn't exist any more

i notice that an awful lot of eastern bloc anglophiles have very, very romantic notions of england, generally ones that are 50 years too late to be reality.

Of course it does. We have The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, don't we?

I wouldn't call Sir Terrence Pratchett romantic. And what about China Miéville? Neil Gaiman? Philip Pullman? Susanna Clarke? Joe Abercrombie?

Doris Lessing, Ian McEwan, V. S. Naipaul?

Come on...

oh gosh my dear your very miss guided...this is where i live...in england...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ib0foDxeo ...now tell me does that look like the tradiontal beautiful place u read about in such old texts from shakespear etc etc?

Originally Posted by panselinos

Of course it does. We have The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, don't we?

i could never understand why people liked that book, it always left me cold. i never even managed to finish it.

Originally Posted by panselinos

I wouldn't call Sir Terrence Pratchett romantic. And what about China Miéville? Neil Gaiman? Philip Pullman? Susanna Clarke? Joe Abercrombie?

Doris Lessing, Ian McEwan, V. S. Naipaul?

Come on...

by "romantic notions of the country" i was referring to the actual country itself, and how people live their lives, not modern fantasy literature. red telephone boxes, black cabs, bowler hats, afternoon tea and all that ****, it doesn't exist anymore.